rowanj Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 Then there is this one, Brian. I tend to think the colour is more natural/realistic in this shot, with the photo less effected by age. the loco looks ex-works, or near enough. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
46256 Posted February 19, 2022 Author Share Posted February 19, 2022 (edited) Thanks John is this a preserved shot? I’ve just looked it up, the loco is Nechells no 4. Nechells near Saltley had a major electricity generating station, a contemporary of Hams Hall. It is a suburb of Birmingham and some ten miles from Hams Hall I don’t know if the two fleets of locomotives were swapped from time to time, not least giving me a reason to show light engine movements through Water Orton. I have been told that these locos were seen going through. The Lining on no 4, is clearly yellow black, also pipes on buffer beam, one thing for certain my version will not be so ornately decorated. I think (hope) this is a spruce up by a preserved railway. There are other differences not just livery between this loco and no 12 , talk about a multi varied class ! How would you describe the green though I’m tending towards Southern malachite ? The simplicity of the British Railways fleet is now appreciated. Edited February 19, 2022 by 46256 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Asterix2012 Posted February 19, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 19, 2022 16 minutes ago, 46256 said: Thanks John is this a preserved shot? I’ve just looked it up, the loco is Nechells no 4. Nechells near Saltley had a major electricity generating station, a contemporary of Hams Hall. It is a suburb of Birmingham and some ten miles from Hams Hall I don’t know if the two fleets of locomotives were swapped from time to time, not least giving me a reason to show light engine movements through Water Orton. I have been told that these locos were seen going through. The Lining on no 4, is clearly yellow black, also pipes on buffer beam, one thing for certain my version will not be so ornately decorated. I think (hope) this is a spruce up by a preserved railway. There are other differences not just livery between this loco and no 12 , talk about a multi varied class ! How would you describe the green though I’m tending towards Southern malachite ? The simplicity of the British Railways fleet is now appreciated. The lining on the rusty ones on the previous page does look to be just as ornate if somewhat dirty and rusted. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
46256 Posted February 19, 2022 Author Share Posted February 19, 2022 Asterisk I think your right, albeit the picture is of I believe a preserved example, they have copied the original CEA scheme. I now think what appears black white lining is faded yellow black. Now which mainline railway had yellow black lining? I have just painted the model, plumping for a malachite green, not least it as the last spray can of that colour the model shop had. I fear the lining and lettering will be the daunting bit… Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Tomlinson Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 2 hours ago, 46256 said: Thanks John is this a preserved shot? I’ve just looked it up, the loco is Nechells no 4. Nechells near Saltley had a major electricity generating station, a contemporary of Hams Hall. It is a suburb of Birmingham and some ten miles from Hams Hall I don’t know if the two fleets of locomotives were swapped from time to time, not least giving me a reason to show light engine movements through Water Orton. I have been told that these locos were seen going through. The Lining on no 4, is clearly yellow black, also pipes on buffer beam, one thing for certain my version will not be so ornately decorated. I think (hope) this is a spruce up by a preserved railway. There are other differences not just livery between this loco and no 12 , talk about a multi varied class ! How would you describe the green though I’m tending towards Southern malachite ? The simplicity of the British Railways fleet is now appreciated. The picture to me of the spruced up loco appears to be at the GC at Loughborough, taken from the roadbridge that passes close to the front of the shed. It would be good to have confirmation. John. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Tomlinson Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 (edited) Here's a coincidence, I went from making the last post to looking at my Flickr site, and specifically the posts of those I follow. What should appear but the following, albeit with a mis-spelling of Nechells, just put up this afternoon! Click on the picture for the Flickr original. Note this was scanned back to front, and clicking on the picture will show a corrected version - although a slightly different picture. Edited February 24, 2022 by John Tomlinson Note of mis-scanning 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
46256 Posted February 19, 2022 Author Share Posted February 19, 2022 Sincere thanks to all for assisting me on this matter. I have just been on Fox transfers webpage and LMS lining can be used. The lettering is another matter, fortunately they do a bespoke service so I will be sending them an enquiry concerning this. I know she is a simple 060, but does have a certain charm which I think will warrant the extra cost effort. Will photo in due course 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
46256 Posted February 19, 2022 Author Share Posted February 19, 2022 Just noticed on the shot by John (T) of the loco working at Nechells…smokebox door opens on different side…the rural outlook is also a bit deceiving, within a couple of miles of this was Aston, Saltley MPDs …Saltley and Windsor St gasworks ,BRCW wagon works and lastly Met Cam where my Dad worked on the bus making side. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
46256 Posted February 19, 2022 Author Share Posted February 19, 2022 Now painted ,awaiting lining etc and three link couplings. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
46256 Posted February 20, 2022 Author Share Posted February 20, 2022 (edited) I don’t know if apparent the previous photo showed I hadn’t got the dome of the cab roof right, not to my eyes anyway. I’ve just removed it and added plastic strip to the front and rear filed to profile…roof replaced Edited February 20, 2022 by 46256 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
46256 Posted February 23, 2022 Author Share Posted February 23, 2022 Finally doing some work on the Ex LMS artic set….made the very wise decision to purchase the comet underframe set for these coaches rather than attempt in plasticard. These coaches had central underframe trusses well captured by comet. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Tomlinson Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 (edited) On 19/02/2022 at 16:11, John Tomlinson said: Here's a coincidence, I went from making the last post to looking at my Flickr site, and specifically the posts of those I follow. What should appear but the following, albeit with a mis-spelling of Nechells, just put up this afternoon! Click on the picture for the Flickr original. This shot was apparently scanned back to front, and should have the hinge on the nearside, I think it has now been corrected. If you click on it you'll see what I mean. Another one from the same photographer. Edited February 24, 2022 by John Tomlinson 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
46256 Posted February 24, 2022 Author Share Posted February 24, 2022 Thanks John thought I was going daft….too late according to my wife. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
46256 Posted February 28, 2022 Author Share Posted February 28, 2022 (edited) LMS articulated set now nearing completion need door handles and hand rail near guards doors to finish off Edited February 28, 2022 by 46256 6 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
46256 Posted March 5, 2022 Author Share Posted March 5, 2022 (edited) On the subject of non BR locomotives travelling through Water Orton light engine. I met up with my old train spotting friends. Steve one of them, informed me he had seen the sentinel loco Barabel based at Bromford Bridge steel, go through. Image of Hornby loco. In addition on 26 th August 1969 he noted a MOD RH loco no 435 also traverse the hallowed tracks. It seems that my roster will be further increased. I have included a photo of the sister engine no 432 Edited March 5, 2022 by 46256 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Barry O Posted March 5, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 5, 2022 The Army shunter is a RH one..not a Sentinel unfortunately. Baz Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
46256 Posted March 5, 2022 Author Share Posted March 5, 2022 (edited) Good evening Barry , just edited my original post. Sorry for confusion, something I’m very good at I believe the Heljan model of the 07 RH class is being released in the MOD livery later this year, allowing me to buy it, to replicate that loco movement through Water Orton. The sentinel Barabel, as seen is already part of the Hornby range, as per image. The real loco was transferred to the Bromford bridge steel site, for a while from other works. I have to confess whilst I like the RH loco , I’m not very keen on the Sentinel…apologies to those who do. One of my aims, is to have a representative of every type of locomotive known to have gone through Water Orton during the period 1950 to 1976, so will have to purchase at some time. I might warm to it, when I do have it on the roster. Edited March 5, 2022 by 46256 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Barry O Posted March 6, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 6, 2022 No problemo! At least the RH is UK sized. The Hunslets that came back from BAOR were to Berne gauge and huge! Baz 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
46256 Posted March 6, 2022 Author Share Posted March 6, 2022 Some months ago I sought to recreate the train shown double headed through Bromsgrove by a pair of black fives in 1959. This led me to seeking information , and researching some of the coaches displayed. I’ve received information from a number of you and the project has progressed. Many thanks. The first models constructed were the ex LNER artic set courtesy of isinglass models. ( This in turn led to interest in other articulated coaches hence the ex LMS vehicles, and another Ex LNER variant awaiting construction. ) The restaurant car in the formation, was identified by Andrew ( Headstock) and sides duly ordered from Mousa Models. In addition he advised me on how he constructs his models. I have followed his advice and the two brass sides are attached to ex Hornby roof and ends. The sides required some work to recreate recesses by the doors having been etched flat. I am pleased with the result. The roof requires quite a bit of work to represent these vehicles. I have just downloaded shots of various ex LNER restaurant cars from the Steve Banks site to assist. More soon. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
46256 Posted March 13, 2022 Author Share Posted March 13, 2022 (edited) Hams Hall no 12 lined awaiting lettering. I have investigated commissioning a set…more expensive than the loco build. I then ordered lettering transfers….on arrival wrong font and size …..other than that perfect…ahem…new sheets ordered hopefully the right ones. Workplates courtesy of my friend John R …many thanks! LMS artic set now with handrails and handles…dia 144 restaurant awaits lining glazing handrails etc… Edited March 13, 2022 by 46256 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
46256 Posted March 15, 2022 Author Share Posted March 15, 2022 The transfers have arrived for the RSH. Crikey it’s a tedious job applying 1 mm letters….Central Electricity Authority and no 12 ( in 2 mm) on one side. Midlands Division, and the other side of the loco to do . It’s worth it though, as I hope you will agree when done. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
46256 Posted March 17, 2022 Author Share Posted March 17, 2022 Don’t you just love when applying transfers , when you run out of a particular number, or in this case letter, whilst still having the rest of the sheet . The letter I in this case ( usually 4s being a predominantly Midland modeller) when numbering. A further sheet of 2 mm and 1 mm Franklin heavy letters ordered, to complete the other side of the locomotive. The lining on the restaurant car will be quite therapeutic after this. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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46256 Posted March 17, 2022 Author Share Posted March 17, 2022 (edited) Finished, great service from Fox transfers….ordered yesterday, arrived this morning. Edited March 17, 2022 by 46256 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowanj Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 16 hours ago, 46256 said: Looks great, Brian. Well worth the effort. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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