RMweb Premium Hilux5972 Posted September 30, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 30, 2016 So the Mk3a is the Loco hauled variant? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold cambo74 Posted September 30, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 30, 2016 You can pre-order at Hattons (other model shops may do similar) for £29 each - that really is giving them away at that price - sell all your Hornby Mk3s cos they are gonna become worthless over the next few years if Oxford do this right ............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold cambo74 Posted September 30, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 30, 2016 Ok then as an addition to the above - id like a rake of Blue/grey ones to go with the early ScotRail push pull models and the hopefully incoming DBSO - does anyone know what formation these ran in - i think it was usually 5 / 6 coaches and a DBSO - can anyone confirm this and what types of coaches were involved ? Ben Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Mac Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 29 pounds at Hattons for the Oxford Rail version...... 27 pounds for the current Hornby mk3...... it's a no brainer by the looks of things... time for Hornby to reposition their offering into the railroad range.... I'm impressed that the price is so reasonable, hopefully Bachmann are taking note re their mk2f...... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srihaggis Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 The price is excellent. I asked Rapido a rough guess on price if they made them (which i dont think they are any more) and they came back with roughly 50per vehicle, so this price really is competitive and ill be taking some when funds permit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Revolution Mike B Posted September 30, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 30, 2016 (edited) You can pre-order at Hattons (other model shops may do similar) for £29 each - that really is giving them away at that price - sell all your Hornby Mk3s cos they are gonna become worthless over the next few years if Oxford do this right ............. Only if they do FGW / XC ones......I have 6 sets! And if they do........it's going to be enjoyably expensive for me :-) Edited September 30, 2016 by scoobyra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 .... sell all your Hornby Mk3s cos they are gonna become worthless over the next few years if Oxford do this right ............. Not on eBay they won't, especially the FGW graphic-equaliser-livery variety, for which there seems to be a permanently-unmet demand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nile_Griffith Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 (edited) Right!!!! To use the street vernacular. Its about time I did some Big'ing up here. A bit earlier on in the thread I posted a comment about how while at the Goodwood Revival a couple of weeks ago. Mr Oxford Diecast/Rail was happy to indulge me in a conversation about the forthcoming Mk3's. As I reported Mr Oxford Rail told me that they expected to have some very positive news in October with releases going to key members of the modelling press and information going out via their website. So comrades! Friend, Romans and even those who model kettles. Could we at least congratulate Oxford Rail heartily for doing what they said? Yes I am sure the nay sayers will witter on about the proof being in the pudding and that we haven't seen one out of the box yet. But in an industry where the big legacy players seem quite happy to dangle the carrot in front of us for years and then in some cases coming up with something less than........... well.......... mediocre. Could we at least give Oxford Rail a big round of applause for getting out there and getting on with it. For as long as I have been a member of this forum there has been a general consensus that the might MK3 has been woefully overlooked. Now we have a new entrant to the market who in the less than twelve months looks to be delivering the goods and to timeframes they promise. That in my book is worth a heap of praise. Good work Oxford Rail. Edited September 30, 2016 by Nile_Griffith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Removed a/c Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 only 6 though I see so either multiples of the same number, renumbering or waiting for different numbers to be released will be the order of the day. For me these will be a must have, deduct 20% and hopefully if the exchange rate stays low and these will be cheap as chips !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Revolution Mike B Posted September 30, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 30, 2016 (edited) Big up da Oxford Rail innit....................(for those of us over 50, or 49, in my case, a very well done to Oxford Rail). Definitely agree with Nile on this (although we need to understand the process that the 'bigger' companies follow and their rationale behind it) as it's a fantastic effort. It'll be interesting to see how much of a market there is for these coaches in large numbers given that a full length HST is over 3m long and not many people have the space to run trains of this length (this was also Bachmann's argument when I quizzed them at Ally Pally) What puzzles me is why we've had to wait over thirty years (since Jouef) for someone to produce a MK3 that's actually very close to the real thing? Perhaps they could produce some power cars too to really throw the cat amongst the pigeons? Edited September 30, 2016 by scoobyra 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nile_Griffith Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 only 6 though I see so either multiples of the same number, renumbering or waiting for different numbers to be released will be the order of the day. For me these will be a must have, deduct 20% and hopefully if the exchange rate stays low and these will be cheap as chips !! Oxford Rails plan is to release in over a period a prototypically numbered rake of Mk3's as they would have expected to appear if they had been running together on a certain date on a certain route. What that the timescale of that release will be I don't think they have indicated. I'm guessing that the great majority of collectors and modellers will be chuffed witless at the availability of some current standard models without worrying too much about carriage numbering. If honest I don't find it a deal changer. For those modellers who are looking for specific numbering they are much better served in terms of variation and availability by the transfer suppliers. No manufacturer is going to be able to economically cater to every numbering requirement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 ....I'm guessing that the great majority of collectors and modellers will be chuffed witless at the availability .... They will be if they're after the FGW variety. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickL2008 Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 They will be if they're after the FGW variety. More so the Intercity variety, but if they release Virgin too then thatd be good, received the email myself today about the planned releases and looking forward to seeing more developed samples of these coaches NL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royaloak Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 (edited) According to BRM they are and they all have buffers so if they aren't they are incorrect. How many/ what type of loco hauled mark 3A/3Bs have the square vent on the roof above the doors, I thought they all had the 3 small ones, and it was the original HST mark 3s that had the square vent, not that I have studied them all in that much detail. Edit- Just looked online and it appears some of the mark 3A Buffets, mark 3A Sleeper and mark 3B Firsts have the square vent, they say you learn something new every day because I thought they mainly had the 3 small vents! Edited September 30, 2016 by royaloak 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flood Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 (edited) All the sleepers, Mk3B firsts and the original RUB buffets had plenum chambers instead of roevacs. Some of the modular buffets were rebuilt from Mk3a FO stock so these had roevacs, the others were from the RUBs and ex HST TRUKs so these had plenum chambers. Edited September 30, 2016 by Flood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gerbil-Fritters Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 Now, who is going to be the first to release a DCC sound chip replicating the motor-alternator set whine and the asthmatic wheezy farting noise the air suspension units used to emit when moving slowly out of the station? You;re not going to believe this, fella.... MK3 sounds not for models, but even so 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UP 4000 Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 (edited) You;re not going to believe this, fella.... MK3 sounds not for models, but even so Can't guarantee it but I think something to do with Legomanbiffo, Youtube Armstrong powerhouse behind the thrash, and you can see Biff attaching the microphones at the very start, You never know he may do a Loksound decoder one day. Also on Charlie's website DC Kits. Edited September 30, 2016 by UP 4000 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted September 30, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 30, 2016 So the Mk3a is the Loco hauled variant? Yes (as is a Mk3b) Cheers, Mick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonathan452 Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 (edited) Can't wait! Hoping (for the price) that they do use good quality ABS plastic that won't go banana shaped in years to come. Will Rail Express give these four ticks????? Edited September 30, 2016 by jonathan452 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium jjb1970 Posted September 30, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 30, 2016 These do look very promising, and the price is very attractive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Legend Posted September 30, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 30, 2016 Is this the actual price(I hope it is) or just Hattons estimate? Hattons have form on this. Is it confirmed elsewhere? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium jjb1970 Posted September 30, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 30, 2016 If it is the price then it'll throw a few cats amongst pigeons I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rembrow Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 Is this the actual price(I hope it is) or just Hattons estimate? Hattons have form on this. Is it confirmed elsewhere? The rrp quoted on the Oxford Diecast site is £34.95 and my local model shop offers 15% below rrp on Oxford Rail products, so the Hattons £29 price is based on current Oxford pricing, exceptional value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piranha230 Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 This just goes to show how Bachmann have been ripping us off with massive price increases over the last 3 years or so, blaming rising Chinese labour cost's, for example a class 150 was around £69.00 when first released now its £165.00, you could buy a class 350 for £107.00 when they first came out, the class 450 will be £299.00 when that gets released. I personally think they were getting greedy as they had the lions share of the market, but with all these new companies, it's price rises will come back to bite them hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 This just goes to show how Bachmann have been ripping us off with massive price increases over the last 3 years or so, blaming rising Chinese labour cost's, for example a class 150 was around £69.00 when first released now its £165.00, you could buy a class 350 for £107.00 when they first came out, the class 450 will be £299.00 when that gets released. I personally think they were getting greedy as they had the lions share of the market, but with all these new companies, it's price rises will come back to bite them hard. It may also be that Oxford later decide to increase their prices to a level closer to that of the established "players". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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