Hroth Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 14 minutes ago, Edwardian said: Of course, West Norfolk features its own wacky non-conformist sect in the form of the Memonites, whose idiosyncratic approach to personal hygiene proceeds from a misreading of the text of the apocryphal Book of Macademia. You mean they were completely nuts? 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin S-C Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 Being an 00 modeller whose subject is fantasy railways I must be CofE (which makes sense because I am active in the hobby without really doing much and understanding even less) but with leanings towards Wicca or Druids. Is it relevant that I make my model trees out of mistletoe boughs cut only on a winter solstice full moon while wearing a sheet? There's going to be a pub on my layout called "The Green Man" as well... 5 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wagonman Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 2 minutes ago, Martin S-C said: There's going to be a pub on my layout called "The Green Man" as well... There's one of those down the road from here – in Little Snoring... No. really. Who needs fantasy when the real world is totally whacky? 1 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardian Posted May 1, 2019 Author Share Posted May 1, 2019 I suspect I have lapsed into being a non-playing member of the CofE. Apart from the fact that it is threaded through the history, life and fabric of this nation over centuries, a form of organised religion that makes so little demand upon my time, my conscience and my credulity is, in my view, a thing to be cherished! Those native pagan roots onto which the church in England was grafted are also a part of its character; I confess that, as a bored school boy, it was the Green Man carved on the roof boss, rather than the stained glass saints and prophets that caught my imagination. However, for those of a more earnest and enthusiastic persuasion, who can obsessively pursue a fine point of difference until it becomes of defining importance, there is the endless division and sub-division of extreme protestant sects! Betjeman gloriously gave us the Ember Day Bryanites, and it is very much in that spirit that the Nineteenth Century religious history of this corner of West Norfolk has evolved. Take a somewhat dry and other-worldly Doctor of Divinity of the 1830s, perhaps a harmless sort of a Casaubon without that priest's essential moral vices, seated in his study in the Castle Aching Rectory, translating a hitherto lost book of the Apocrypha, the Book of Macademia. The Book of Macadamia, Chapter IV, verse 7 Then imagine a comically flawed misreading of the text by an earnest, but slightly unhinged religious enthusiast in the parish, causing him and a small group of the highly susceptible to break away and form a strict and somewhat joyless sect which interprets the the Book of Macademia as containing the revelation that the tribe of the Memonites were God's Chosen on the ground that, by and large, they did not hold with washing over much. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium TheQ Posted May 1, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 1, 2019 1 hour ago, wagonman said: There's one of those down the road from here – in Little Snoring... No. really. Who needs fantasy when the real world is totally whacky? There's also a GReen Man pub on the Norwich Wroxham road. and a green man in Norwich cathedral <a href="https://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/LocationPhotoDirectLink-g186342-d214456-i154222836-Norwich_Cathedral-Norwich_Norfolk_East_Anglia_England.html#154222836"><img alt="" src="https://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-s/09/31/40/f4/norwich-cathedral.jpg"/></a><br/>This photo of Norwich Cathedral is courtesy of TripAdvisor 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caley Jim Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 On 28/04/2019 at 19:25, Edwardian said: What do we make of this? (from the Bay of Fleas) If i may indulge the Parish Council to go back 4 pages, I have now consulted with my fellow 2FS modeller Alisdair Campbell, who is the drawings archivist for the HR society. It is neither HR nor GNSR, but could be a PO build by either Hurst Nelson or Pickering, who both arranged the outer layer of door planks vertically. As he and I are followers of the true associated faiths of the HR and CR respectively, we are not in a position to comment whether or not the vehicle may be associated with one or other of the two other (inferior) Scottish companies. (If we were to mention their names we would be required to undergo purging and absolution! ) Jim 4 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hroth Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 1 hour ago, Caley Jim said: As he and I are followers of the true associated faiths of the HR and CR respectively, we are not in a position to comment whether or not the vehicle may be associated with one or other of the two other (inferior) Scottish companies. (If we were to mention their names we would be required to undergo purging and absolution! ) Just be glad you'll never be able to upset the Men In Malachite, purging and absolution would be the least of your worries.... Just Dont Ask 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold ian Posted May 1, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 1, 2019 3 hours ago, Edwardian said: ... imagine a comically flawed misreading of the text by an earnest, but slightly unhinged religious enthusiast in the parish, causing him and a small group of the highly susceptible to break away and form a strict and somewhat joyless sect which interprets the the Book of Macademia as containing the revelation that the tribe of the Memonites were God's Chosen on the ground that, by and large, they did not hold with washing over much. They are still going and, by pure chance, seem to have a strong interest in attending model railway exhibitions. 1 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin S-C Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 In my opinion the Macadamias are nuts. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hroth Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 1 hour ago, Martin S-C said: In my opinion the Macadamias are nuts. They're not the only ones in these parts..... Hmph!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium corneliuslundie Posted May 1, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 1, 2019 Going back about three hundred pages and ten minutes, I do not claim to be a fine scale modeller, but I do try to produce models which are as fine scale, ie accurate, as I am able in all their aspects. And I think that is what actually we all here have in common. Each of us will have a different emphasis but we are all aiming to improve our standards in what we do, and it does not matter what scale, gauge, means of propulsion, company, country or anything else we model. Some will put the emphasis on locomotives, some on wagons, some on scenery, some on electrics, some on baseboard building, some on operating. So we all have something to contribute. Me, I try to produce a model which represents the real railway as I like to imagine it to have been, but I have my big weaknesses - locomotive building for one. Some of the most enjoyable operating sessions I have ever had were in Cambridge on a friend's O gauge garden railway. No scenery, not particularly accurate models, but it was FUN. I must admit that I used to say I would never model in P4 because I don't want to have to wear a suit all the time. But I attend Scalefour exhibitions and these days find most of the modellers extremely approachable, even if theirr skills leave mine not so much in the shade but deep in the forest. I also thoroughly enjoy the annual American modular meet. Each to his/her own - and that includes Annie's wonderful digital creations. Jonathan 5 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Regularity Posted May 1, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 1, 2019 10 hours ago, Edwardian said: I suspect I have lapsed into being a non-playing member of the CofE. Apart from the fact that it is threaded through the history, life and fabric of this nation over centuries, a form of organised religion that makes so little demand upon my time, my conscience and my credulity is, in my view, a thing to be cherished! Stephen Fry, an atheist of Jewish heritage, loves the “established” Church of England, as it means that amorphous entity the state (or more accurately in this island, the Crown) takes the need to think and worry about God away from us, leaving us to get on with our daily lives, unlike say the USA where despite separation of church and state, every politician feels the need to make clear his allegiance/belief, and Religion tends to interfere with daily life. He may have a point... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted May 1, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 1, 2019 8 hours ago, Caley Jim said: As he and I are followers of the true associated faiths of the HR and CR respectively, we are not in a position to comment whether or not the vehicle may be associated with one or other of the two other (inferior) Scottish companies. (If we were to mention their names we would be required to undergo purging and absolution! ) Well obviously one is the Great North but I'm stumped to find another in the category "inferior". After all, the term certainly can't be applicable to any line allied with the Midland Railway (of England). 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Regularity Posted May 1, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 1, 2019 I thought there were 5 pre-grouping companies in Scotland? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted May 1, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 1, 2019 Just so. That's why Jim has me perplexed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Northroader Posted May 1, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 1, 2019 The Great North inferior? Can yer mammy sew, sonny? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted May 1, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 1, 2019 (edited) Clearly none of the Scottish companies can really be thought of as inferior by an Englishman, with any degree of safety. I've long thought that the strongest argument against Scottish independence is the consequent impoverishment of England - for instance, I'll give you the vital contribution of Ayrshire families to the mechanical engineering of English railways. Edited May 1, 2019 by Compound2632 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caley Jim Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 1 hour ago, Regularity said: I thought there were 5 pre-grouping companies in Scotland? Re-read the post! I mentioned that the wagon was neither HR nor GNSR (Alisdair has leanings towards the latter for some unaccountable reason), so, counting myself as being CR, that only leaves two! (at least in the arithmetic I was taught!) Jim 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonB Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 Just caught up with the last few pages... I thought that Religion was a subject to be avoided on RMweb. ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Regularity Posted May 1, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 1, 2019 1 hour ago, Caley Jim said: Re-read the post! I mentioned that the wagon was neither HR nor GNSR (Alisdair has leanings towards the latter for some unaccountable reason), so, counting myself as being CR, that only leaves two! (at least in the arithmetic I was taught!) Jim Ah yes. I see. The paragraph break threw my train of thought. 1 hour ago, DonB said: Just caught up with the last few pages... I thought that Religion was a subject to be avoided on RMweb. ? Religiously. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin S-C Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 Religious discussion is to be avoided, if you're talking about religion. As it was this discussion on religion wasn't about religion. It was actually a discussion about railway modelling. Does that help? 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Dave John Posted May 1, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 1, 2019 Hmm, interesting pic Jim. No end doors, cupboard doors on the sides. Greaseboxes in the CR syle. Note that the horse shunting loops are bolted to the crownplates in CR fashion, but it seems to have webbed buffers with 4 rather than the CRs 3 bolts . I also note spoked rather than split spoke wheels. Single sided Morton brake. So heres a first stab, built Hurst Nelson , registered with the CR 1903. Ok, The wheels are split spoke , but the body style and doors are close. I'll dig deeper ...... 3 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm 0-6-0 Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 (edited) 10 hours ago, Martin S-C said: In my opinion the Macadamias are nuts. But then there are the Tarmacadamians who have taken personal humility to such religious perfection so that now people just walk all over them. Edited May 2, 2019 by Malcolm 0-6-0 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hroth Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 8 hours ago, Compound2632 said: Clearly none of the Scottish companies can really be thought of as inferior by an Englishman, with any degree of safety. I've long thought that the strongest argument against Scottish independence is the consequent impoverishment of England - for instance, I'll give you the vital contribution of Ayrshire families to the mechanical engineering of English railways. Scottish railways are naturally superior, in the same sense that Lake Superior is... 8 hours ago, DonB said: Just caught up with the last few pages... I thought that Religion was a subject to be avoided on RMweb. ? As a broad metaphor for railway topics, I think it's just about permissable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caley Jim Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 41 minutes ago, Hroth said: Scottish railways are naturally superior, in the same sense that Lake Superior is... But some were more superior than others! Jim 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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