Simond Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 Thanks Ken, We'll agree to differ on that one, I love sound and find DCC totally logical. I have a dear friend whose layout is DC, and the section switches drive me up the wall!!! Best Simon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazz Posted January 13, 2017 Author Share Posted January 13, 2017 Hi Simon. I will concede to that. One last comment on the subject, I love the control panel and flicking the switches etc. Kind of like a signal box in which I spent many a happy hour keeping the signalman company watching operations. Regards, Ken Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simond Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 Hi Ken I learned my signalling at Diggle on the late Ken Longbottom's spectacular model. He had contrived that the signal and point levels controlled the track sections so there was no section switching at all - if the route was signalled, it worked! it's a while ago, but I don't recall any controller /cab switching either, though I rather suspect there must have been, as there were multiple controllers. I think DCC allows the locoman to drive and the signalman to signal in the same way, but with much less hassle, and much simpler wiring - I know it's possible but I am disinclined to operate the points & signals using DCC control If Chris K and others get their way, locos will be r/c battery operated and that will be simpler again - it sounds very sensible to me! (But I want sound!) Best Simon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazz Posted January 13, 2017 Author Share Posted January 13, 2017 Simon, I remember Ken Longbottoms railway well. I had a few sessions on it back in my younger days. It was an amazing layout. Is it still running I wonder? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Fitness Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 Simon, I remember Ken Longbottoms railway well. I had a few sessions on it back in my younger days. It was an amazing layout. Is it still running I wonder? It hasn't run for a couple of years now. I think mice, decrepitude and lack of maintenance have seen it off. The current owner doesn't hold out much hope for it so you can draw your own conclusions! JF Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazz Posted January 13, 2017 Author Share Posted January 13, 2017 That's a great shame Jon, a lot of hard work went into such a large layout. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simond Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 It was indeed a superb creation. Ken was a very capable & determined man, and, a fantastic teacher. I learned a great deal by working with him, as a very raw teenage modeller. I was very privileged, as the pal of the son of one of the regulars, to become a regular myself, from around 74 to 77, and rather less regularly thereafter. Happy days, and some very happy late evenings! Best Simon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazz Posted January 14, 2017 Author Share Posted January 14, 2017 At last she is ready for the big cleanup and applying the primer. The latter will have to wait for the weather to improve, way too cold in the garage. This has not been an easy build by any stretch of the imagination, not a bit like other JLTRT kits I have built. I has been a test of my patience and a lot of guess work has been applied. The chassis etch was totally different from that shown in the DVD from JLTRT so that left me trying to figure it all out. Any the that's the moan for now and here she is waiting for the weather to improve after tomorrows cleanup. Next on the WB is the David Andrews L1 2-6-4 tank. This should be a much more relaxing build. 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grasshopper John Posted January 15, 2017 Share Posted January 15, 2017 Is that the Stanier Tank Ken, If so I have one in the box but lost my Mojo ATM, Actually not much point in waiting to see your build when I think about it, 2 or 3 photos and its ready for primer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazz Posted January 15, 2017 Author Share Posted January 15, 2017 Hi John. 2 or 3 photos? maybe 4 or 5 The L1 is the LNER ZEPPELIN tank. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Fitness Posted January 15, 2017 Share Posted January 15, 2017 (edited) Hi John. 2 or 3 photos? maybe 4 or 5 The L1 is the LNER ZEPPELIN tank. Thought they were "Cement Mixers"... Edit.. Ah I see. I sit corrected! Edited January 16, 2017 by Jon Fitness Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dibateg Posted January 15, 2017 Share Posted January 15, 2017 I think the Zeppelin - might have been designated L1 initially, then when the new Thompson L1 ( sometimes known as cement mixers ) came out, they were re-designated L3... Regards Tony Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazz Posted January 15, 2017 Author Share Posted January 15, 2017 (edited) I do not know the various nicknames BUT the kit says it's a LNER L1 Zeppelin ex GCR 1B. In Yeadons register published in 1953 it is an L1. However, Tony is correct in that they became the L3. Edited January 15, 2017 by jazz Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazz Posted January 17, 2017 Author Share Posted January 17, 2017 A heat wave over the weekend (10 C ) enabled me to prime the Hall. I thought I would never get it finished. Quite pleased with the result bearing mind this is the standard kit as opposed to the super detailed kit. Tomorrow I open the box on the David Andrews L1/L3 LNER tank. I dod not expect any problems with this kit 14 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazz Posted January 19, 2017 Author Share Posted January 19, 2017 Hi all. We are to a good start with the Davis Andrews LNER L1/3 tank. As I thought, looks like a lovely kit to build as I have found all his are and not to forget the Gladiator ones which are the same to build. Starting with a look at the chassis, all very nicely etched. Yesterday afternoon spent quickly removing all the etches from the fret and a cleanup around the edges they were ready for folding up where required and opening up the various holes and axle holes. elongating the centre axle hole in my usual method. Todays session with the iron and almost finished the chassis. The brake gear is a simple affair and when together very well. 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazz Posted January 21, 2017 Author Share Posted January 21, 2017 Hi all. Starting today session with photo with yesterdays completion of the chassis so far. Now it's on with the body. Hope this huge motor will fit without too much butchering of the chassis or body. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazz Posted January 21, 2017 Author Share Posted January 21, 2017 (edited) A good start on the body today. It's fitting together very well. As predicted some chopping of the chassis to get the motor to sit exactly horizontal plus a fair bit of surgery to the firebox front and rear of the boiler. All is well now and fitting well. A couple of essential tools on the WB is the bending bars and rolling bars. The alterations to the firebox and boiler. Edited January 21, 2017 by jazz 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Boucher Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 L1 tools b - 1_Fotor.jpg Fascinating. I've never seen rollers which needed to be held in a vise. I've always seen them with both ends supported/bolted to the workbench. Are they homemade, or commercially available? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
N15class Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 Fascinating. I've never seen rollers which needed to be held in a vise. I've always seen them with both ends supported/bolted to the workbench. Are they homemade, or commercially available? They look like the 10" ones GW Models. He is hard to contact only on phone. I have emailed in the past but replies are slow. No website but does some shows, (not much use in the US). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazz Posted January 23, 2017 Author Share Posted January 23, 2017 Peter is quite correct. I have to say I have not seen him at the Telford show for quite a few years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
daifly Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 I have to say I have not seen him at the Telford show for quite a few years. George was at the Guildford Group Reading show in December (and has been at that show for several years). I've always managed to contact him by phone and he's always been very helpful. Dave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwealleans Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 I've never seen Mr GW at a show, but he advertises in MRJ and my rollers (ordered the old-fashioned way, by post) arrived commendably quickly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshall5 Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 They look like the 10" ones GW Models. He is hard to contact only on phone. I have emailed in the past but replies are slow. No website but does some shows, (not much use in the US). Some years ago a friend bought a set (doubt if he's ever used them to make anything!) so, being a cheapskate and and having a workshop copied them using off-cuts of steel I had lying around. The only items I bought in were a set of Meccano gears from a place in Bradford. It was a very simple, enjoyable exercise but you need a lathe for turning down the ends of the rollers - the rest can be done with hand tools. If you fancy having a go at making your own I'm happy to advise. Ray. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazz Posted January 23, 2017 Author Share Posted January 23, 2017 (edited) A good day at the WB with no interuptions, a bit rare lately. The body is going together very well after having to do the surgery to get the motor in. the only thing up to now was the beading over the bunker rear, this was a couple of mm too wide at the rear. Very easy to fix and an invisible joint in the centre was made. The roof is held in pace like a snuff box lid i.e. using a couple of strips go etch off cuts cut for a snug fit fore and aft along the cab sides. A few more small etches to attach, then on with the castings. It has been a pleasure to build after some of the recent builds. Edited January 23, 2017 by jazz 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
3 link Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 Nice neat work there Jazz, Not my cup of tea, but makes a change from the norm. Looks like it should of been a 0-6-4 rather than a 2-6-4. ATB, Martyn. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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