RMweb Premium Richard E Posted November 26, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 26, 2021 17 minutes ago, Crun said: An article on the dive-under in the December issue of Modern Railways states it will open in early December subject to statutory approval. Must keep some time off aside for the opening day. Patience is a virtue... Do you have a date? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted November 26, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 26, 2021 1 hour ago, Donington Road said: The three signs I photographed are in the northern section. If there is a one zero marker that would put it somewhere in the entrance to the north portal of the tunnel. I don't know off hand the exact distance from Marholm Junction to Glinton Junction but it is the region of 1.5 to 1.75 miles. Using Google maps and the measuring tool (Google Earth Pro has a Sept 2021 aerial view with the finished track in place) I make it 1.77miles give or take using curve smoothing by adding lots of points along the chord. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crun Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 48 minutes ago, Richard E said: Do you have a date? No nothing announced as yet. My request via Twitter for a date from Network Rail has only brought the vague replies I have pasted on here. All I can get from Network Rail is 'some time in early December'. Someone somewhere must announce a date soon. As soon as I get a date I will post it on here. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted November 26, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 26, 2021 (edited) Who's going to go on Google Earth Pro and use the Flight Simulator for a flyover of the diveunder? Looks like it could be fun, however I just tried it, crashed the plane three times!There's lots of wreckage in the fields around Werrington Edited November 26, 2021 by melmerby 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crun Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 1 hour ago, melmerby said: Who's going to go on Google Earth Pro and use the Flight Simulator for a flyover of the diveunder? Looks like it could be fun, however I just tried it, crashed the plane three times!There's lots of wreckage in the fields around Werrington SCRAMBLE! SCRAMBLE! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crun Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 2 hours ago, melmerby said: Who's going to go on Google Earth Pro and use the Flight Simulator for a flyover of the diveunder? Looks like it could be fun, however I just tried it, crashed the plane three times!There's lots of wreckage in the fields around Werrington Too rough for planes or trains this weekend as Storm Arwen approaches: https://www.railadvent.co.uk/2021/11/storm-arwen-lner-advises-passengers-of-east-coast-main-line-closure.html 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium jamie92208 Posted November 27, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 27, 2021 9 hours ago, Crun said: No nothing announced as yet. My request via Twitter for a date from Network Rail has only brought the vague replies I have pasted on here. All I can get from Network Rail is 'some time in early December'. Someone somewhere must announce a date soon. As soon as I get a date I will post it on here. Could I be cynical and suggest that it depends on a Government Ministers diary and availability. Jamie 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titan Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 6 hours ago, Crun said: Too rough for planes or trains this weekend as Storm Arwen approaches: https://www.railadvent.co.uk/2021/11/storm-arwen-lner-advises-passengers-of-east-coast-main-line-closure.html Sadly gusts of 90mph are well into the "if you try to run trains you will get a dewirement" zone for the ECML. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted November 27, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 27, 2021 (edited) On 27/11/2021 at 01:06, Crun said: Too rough for planes or trains this weekend as Storm Arwen approaches: https://www.railadvent.co.uk/2021/11/storm-arwen-lner-advises-passengers-of-east-coast-main-line-closure.html Visibilty not too good in Melmerby Towers just now: Edited April 8, 2022 by melmerby 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zomboid Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 12 hours ago, Richard E said: Do you have a date? A date? I don't even have an invitation. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffP Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 (edited) And yet, in sunny Scunny, a bit breezy, not what I'd call a storm and not even rain, let alone snow. Twenty miles from the coast. Edited November 27, 2021 by JeffP 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crun Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 Just rain here in PE4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium jamie92208 Posted November 27, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 27, 2021 (edited) And sunny here in Charente Maritime. Jamie Edited November 27, 2021 by jamie92208 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
great central Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 3 hours ago, melmerby said: Visibilty not too good in Melmerby Towers just now: About the same at a similar time in NG16 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium corneliuslundie Posted November 27, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 27, 2021 Snow on the hills last night in mid Powys. I assume that the opening of the dive-under is waiting while Boris writes his speech saying how much he enjoys Thomas the Tank Engine. Hat, coat . . Jonathan 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ess1uk Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 The dive under was supposed to have entered into service this weekend Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crun Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, ess1uk said: The dive under was supposed to have entered into service this weekend All I've seen is mid-December but no official announcement of the actual date via replies from Network Rail, on Twitter or in publications. Edited November 28, 2021 by Crun Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Richard E Posted November 29, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 29, 2021 19 hours ago, ess1uk said: The dive under was supposed to have entered into service this weekend It might have entered service but it isn't in use. Note the red flags and blocks have gone. The railhead is still quite rusty. Some work still going on in connection with the Armco at the Glinton Junction end. At Cock Lane there is little change where the site offices used to be. The Portacabins are the far side of Coningsby Road. And the site entrance itself is locked up with notices of who to contact to gain access fastened on the gates. The bridges await removal. Cock Lane footbridge is now displaying its bridge number. Some work still ongoing within the railway boundary. And finally, just for Mick, we have a marker post at the Marholm Junction end of the dive under. I couldn't quite make out the one in the far distance ... 6 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crun Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 21 hours ago, ess1uk said: The dive under was supposed to have entered into service this weekend I misunderstood your question and showed my ignorance. Thanks to Richard E for his information and photographs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted November 29, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 29, 2021 (edited) 22 hours ago, ess1uk said: The dive under was supposed to have entered into service this weekend 20 hours ago, Crun said: All I've seen is mid-December but no official announcement of the actual date via replies from Network Rail, on Twitter or in publications. The first train showing on Real Time Trains is 4E20 1321 Felixstowe South Gbrf to Masborough N&W Gbrf on 11th December. https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:H01649/2021-12-11/detailed It's a "Runs as Required" so might not anyway! Edited November 29, 2021 by melmerby 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donington Road Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 (edited) 5 hours ago, Richard E said: Cock Lane footbridge is now displaying its bridge number. In addition to the two (plastic?) plates shown glued on the public side of the bridge span, which I don't see surviving for very long there is one on the concrete parapet railway side which should survive for much longer. 5 hours ago, Richard E said: And finally, just for Mick, we have a marker post at the Marholm Junction end of the dive under. I couldn't quite make out the one in the far distance ... I couldn't see either, my hands were too cold to be changing lenses. There are new signs, mile markers as we now know along the Down Stamford. Edited November 29, 2021 by Donington Road 6 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Richard E Posted November 29, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 29, 2021 (edited) 18 hours ago, melmerby said: The first train showing on Real Time Trains is 4E20 1321 Felixstowe South Gbrf to Masborough N&W Gbrf on 11th December. https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:H01649/2021-12-11/detailed It's a "Runs as Required" so might not anyway! First trains through the dive under this evening apparently according to RailUK forums. They included 4E20, 4E25 and 4E21 apparently. Signal map posted on that forum for 4E56 (copied below) seems to bear that out as well. Edit - definitely in use, 4E43 is under the Parkway as I write held for clearance. Edited November 30, 2021 by Richard E 2 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donington Road Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 (edited) Trackside ECML went to Lincoln Road about 3:00pm to check if the sleepers and red flags had been removed while I went home frozen. He saw nothing and went home then five minutes later this happened! Totally unexpected. The first train going north 66726. 4E21 1120 Felixstowe South Gbrf to Tinsley Yard Gbrf caught by Andrew Winch at 15:05. The second train to use the dive under 66065, 456N 1127 Bow Depot to Heck Plasmor P S approaching from Marholm Junction. Edited November 29, 2021 by Donington Road 10 2 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crun Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 1 hour ago, Donington Road said: Trackside ECML went to Lincoln Road about 3:00pm to check if the sleepers and red flags had been removed while I went home frozen. He saw nothing and went home then five minutes later this happened! Totally unexpected. The first train going north 66726. 4E21 1120 Felixstowe South Gbrf to Tinsley Yard Gbrf caught by Andrew Winch at 15:05. The second train to use the dive under 66065, 456N 1127 Bow Depot to Heck Plasmor P S approaching from Marholm Junction. Looks like a ride around the dive-under via several bridges will be needed tomorrow! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted November 29, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 29, 2021 (edited) Real Time Trains isn't on the ball yet. It shows 4E20 (and the others) today as going via Werrington Jn. but did not have a timing report from there (not surprising really!) https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:H01648/2021-11-29/detailed Railcam UK also haven't updated their diagram for all the signal berth numbers. Edited November 29, 2021 by melmerby 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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