RMweb Gold Market65 Posted August 22, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 22, 2016 Tonight I have a photo' of a class 101 entering Beverley station in June, 1985 from Bridlington. The train is composed of two twin sets. There is the number 70 at the top of the middle windscreen. I wonder what that was for? Regards, Rob. 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rivercider Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 (edited) Class 119 unit L588 A question that I have is the L588 the set number like for instance 156470 is the set number which has vehicles 52470 and 57470 or is it something different like for depot identification ? L588.JPG I do not know the composition of class 119 set L588 on the day you took your photo, but my RCTS Coaching Stock 1980 edition and my Platform 5 Summer 1982 edition, both show set L588 as being formed 51079, 59437, 51107. On the Western Region the prefix letter indicated the owning Division. L = London, or Reading Division, units based at Reading (RG) B = Bristol, or West of England Division, units allocated to Bath Road (BR) but actually serviced and maintained at Marsh Junction P = Plymouth District of the West of England Division, units allocated to Laira (LA) C = Cardiff, or South Wales Division, units allocated to Cardiff Canton (CF). The set numbers varied over the years, but indicated the class of units in the set. In Summer 1982 this was broadly the position, with some variations. Sets L101 - B133 were class 121 single power cars, the set number equated the vehicle number, L120 = 55020, up to B133 = 55033 Sets L280 - L288 were class 121 driving trailers L280 = 56280 etc Sets C300 - C335 were class 116 3 car sets Sets L400 - C450 were class 117 3 car sets Sets P460 - B473 were class 118 3 car sets Set P480 was a class 118 2 car set Sets L571 - L596 were class 119 3 car sets Sets C615 - C616 were class 120 3 car sets Sets C800 - C823 were class 101 2 car or 3 car sets this list of course changed a lot over the years, in 1980 for example there had been more class 120 sets at Cardiff. cheers Edited August 22, 2016 by Rivercider 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swindon 123 Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 I do not know the composition of class 119 set L588 on the day you took your photo, but my RCTS Coaching Stock 1980 edition and my Platform 5 Summer 1982 edition, both show set L588 as being formed 51079, 59437, 51107. On the Western Region the prefix letter indicated the owning Division. L = London, or Reading Division, units based at Reading (RG) B = Bristol, or West of England Division, units allocated to Bath Road (BR) but actually serviced and maintained at Marsh Junction P = Plymouth District of the West of England Division, units allocated to Laira (LA) C = Cardiff, or South Wales Division, units allocated to Cardiff Canton (CF). The set numbers varied over the years, but indicated the class of units in the set. In Summer 1982 this was broadly the position, with some variations. Sets L101 - B133 were class 121 single power cars, the set number equated the vehicle number, L120 = 55020, up to B133 = 55033 Sets L280 - L288 were class 121 driving trailers L280 = 56280 etc Sets C300 - C335 were class 116 3 car sets Sets L400 - C450 were class 117 3 car sets Sets P460 - B473 were class 118 3 car sets Set P480 was a class 118 2 car set Sets L571 - L596 were class 119 3 car sets Sets C615 - C616 were class 120 3 car sets Sets C800 - C823 were class 101 2 car or 3 car sets this list of course changed a lot over the years, in 1980 for example there had been more class 120 sets at Cardiff. cheers You can add to the list B9xx and C9xx, which in later years where the Class 108 power and trailer, and with some of the Cardiff sets, power twins. Paul J. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
45125 Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 Tonight I have a photo' of a class 101 entering Beverley station in June, 1985 from Bridlington. The train is composed of two twin sets. There is the number 70 at the top of the middle windscreen. I wonder what that was for? img111 - Copy.jpg Regards, Rob. Norwich displayed their set numbers this way. Al Taylor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swindon 123 Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 (edited) A DMU lash-up was de rigeur for certain go-anywhere railtours. Here, the Bevercotes Collier, with a 101 + Trans-Pennine 124 combination, three shots at Bevercotes Colliery itself, and another at an unknown location (anyone help? might be somewhere in the Barnsley/Wakefield area). Seem to recall that we stopped for an hour or so at some junction when the driver realised he didn't have route knowledge, and another had to be called out. Must have been some rare track if the driver didn't know it... N52_0003-Bevercotes-Collier-tour.jpg N52_0011-Bevercotes.jpg N52_0021-Bevercotes.jpg N52_0023-Bevercotes.jpg Six Bells Junction details at: http://www.sixbellsjunction.co.uk/80s/820413bc.htm Looking at the photos it was a mixed 123/124 combination as well as the Met-Cam. In the first photo the third vehicle is a Cl123 DMSK, and in the third photo the second vehicle is a Cl123 TCK. . Paul J. Edited to correct horrendous mistake, spotted when posted. Edited August 22, 2016 by Swindon 123 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
br2975 Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 You can add to the list B9xx and C9xx, which in later years where the Class 108 power and trailer, and with some of the Cardiff sets, power twins. Paul J. And later, even the S9xx Class 108 sets allocated to Swansea . . Brian R Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swindon 123 Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 And later, even the S9xx Class 108 sets allocated to Swansea . . Brian R Yes, I'd forgotten about the Swansea sets. I think they where the 108 power twins, the power and trailer sets would have struggled with the Central Wales line. Paul J. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leopardml2341 Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 Yes, I'd forgotten about the Swansea sets. I think they where the 108 power twins, the power and trailer sets would have struggled with the Central Wales line. Paul J. It's the short term that goes first, Paul This pic from post #101: 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rivercider Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 Cardiff Canton allocated class 120 sets mostly worked in the Swansea area, and on the Central Wales route, here are some in the early 1980s. Approaching Swansea are two class 120 sets. Leading is Central Wales power-twin set C603 (50673, 50686) fitted with an extra headlamp. Behind is three car set C612 (50712, 59286, 50666). In the distance in Maliphant Carriage Sidings is a least one more class 120 set, 28/7/80 Next year at Swansea is 3 car class 120 set C612 again, by now renumbered as C508 (50712, 59286, 50666) 7/7/81 cheers 17 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bingley hall Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 A couple of views from March 1989 18 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
br2975 Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 While the debate continues as to whether the train on the right (up main) is actually a multiple unit, let's concentrate on the down working - a Class 31 hauling a failed Cl.123 Swindon Inter City unit. . Taken at the site of 'back of the box sidings' Pengam Junction 1976. . Brian R 13 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derekstuart Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 When you look at the HST (which is NOT a DMU) alongside the failed DMU and realise that they are not much more than a decade apart it really shows just how far ahead the HST is. Like comparing the Kitty Hawk to Concord. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
br2975 Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 (edited) I wonder if Vic Berry paid for the plywood as well ? . Cl.116 TS W59359, Cardiff Central. Brian R Edited August 24, 2016 by br2975 14 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted August 24, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 24, 2016 Tonight I have a pic from late April, 1985, of a class 108 leading a class 101 power trailer set, coming into Beverley from Bridlington, at Beverley North. Regards, Rob. 13 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rivercider Posted August 25, 2016 Share Posted August 25, 2016 Some more DMUs at work west of Swansea Set C616, (probably 51782, 59681, 51790), arriving at Llanelli on a Swansea to Pembroke Dock working, was one of only two remaining class 120 sets allocated to Canton, 24/6/82 The replacements for the class 120 sets were more class 101 Met-Cam sets. Here a pair of class 101s C800 (probably 51445, 51515) and C803 (probably 51450, 51522) call at Llanelli, 24/6/82 The Central Wales route was worked by power-twin DMUs, formerly class 120 sets and then class 101. At Pantyffynon is a set stencilled B802, but it has lost the centre car and has been reformed as a power-twin, it is working the 10.08 Swansea - Shrewsbury. I think the set had just been reallocated to Canton as the Summer 1982 Platform 5 pocket book showed set C802 was formed 51449, 51521 24/6/82. cheers 16 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingsignalman Posted August 27, 2016 Share Posted August 27, 2016 (edited) And here the Mersey Mariner, again with unknown locations apart from Liverpool Lime St: N25_0007-M51927-Mersey-Mariner.jpg N25_0009-Mersey-Mariner-M28388M.jpg N25_0016-Mersey-Mariner.jpg Edit (thanks to Southernman46): probably Rock Ferry and Wigan Wallgate. Six Bells Junction details at: http://www.sixbellsjunction.co.uk/80s/831126rc.htm The second photo is at New Brighton. Edited August 27, 2016 by flyingsignalman Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingsignalman Posted August 27, 2016 Share Posted August 27, 2016 DMU at the old Wrexham Central station waiting to depart for Bidston Ca 1982 13 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris64B Posted August 27, 2016 Share Posted August 27, 2016 (edited) What a brilliant thread! I've always had a soft spot for these first generation DMUs, I find them really characterful for some reason. Thanks for all your contributions, last time I looked there were only 7 pages! I'm really enjoying the superb, atmospheric photos so please keep them coming - some great inspiration for my layout! Cheers, Chris Edited August 27, 2016 by Chris64B Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bingley hall Posted August 28, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted August 28, 2016 A class 105 on the Harwich branch service at Manningtree - 16 October 1977 20 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clydebridge Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 Here's my DMU contribution early 1970's The driver has a steady hand on the vacuum brake approaching a single yellow . Rear cab view on the Up line with distant Cooling towers in the background and a errant type 2 in the sidings. Menai Bridge North Wales during single line working whilst reconstruction work was undertaken after the fire in 1970. Evening departure in Wales from the rear cab passing a weekend ballast crew on trackwork duties. Troutbeck Station on the Cockermouth, Keswick and Penrith Railway in Cumbria 18 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derekstuart Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 Hello Clydebridge Nice photos. Can I ask where the first one is? I'm sure I recognise it but cannot place it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted September 2, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 2, 2016 Hello Clydebridge Nice photos. Can I ask where the first one is? I'm sure I recognise it but cannot place it. Manchester Exchange - on the right, Victoria ahead on the left in the background. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGJ Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 Class 108 at the KWVR unit numbers 50928 and 51565 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rivercider Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 Here are some more DMUs at work in South Wales in the 1980s. First a 6-car DMU (unknown) special working seen calling at Bridgend Class 120 set C615 (51781,59682, 51788) is coupled behind partly seen class 116 set C335 and is calling at Bridgend on a working from the Swansea direction heading towards Cardiff, 7/7/81 Now to Cardiff where we see two 3-car sets that have just come off Canton DMU depot to take up afternoon services. Farthest from the camera a 3-car set waits to work the 16.00 departure for Aber, while class 116 set C312 (50843, 59355, 50896) will form the 16.15 service to Treherbert, 14/4/83 Departing Cardiff is another 3-car class 116 set. Class 116 set C300 (50080, 59030, 50122) departs Cardiff Central while working the 12.08 Penarth to Rhymney service 14/4/81 cheers 15 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGJ Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 A preserved set at Minehead 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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