First Gen DMU's

[RRU]

I`ll chip in with my few, all taken in the 1980`s.

 

This is the site of the original Berry Brow station on the Huddersfield - Penistone line.

 

 

Peter

 

[Market65]

That photo shows a fairly typical hybrid twin unit, with a class 101DMBS leading, followed by a class 110 DMSL. You can tell the class of the second car from the roof vents, body side windows, the just visible four character head code box, and the tumblehome.

 

With regards,

 

Rob.

[RRU]

That photo shows a fairly typical hybrid twin unit, with a class 101DMBS leading, followed by a class 110 DMSL. You can tell the class of the second car from the roof vents, body side windows, the just visible four character head code box, and the tumblehome.

 

 

Here is another one, half a mile further on passing over Lockwood Viaduct.

 

Poor quality. It is a scan of a print. I cannot find the negs.

 

 

Another view of Lockwood Viaduct.

 

 

Peter

[Market65]

Thank you, Peter. That first photo' shows one that is, funnily enough, the 'other way round'. With a class 101 DMCL, and a class 110 DMBC. perfect symmetry!

 

With regards,

 

Rob.

Edited September 9, 2016 by Market65

[kev]

Here is another one, half a mile further on passing over Lockwood Viaduct.

 

Poor quality. It is a scan of a print. I cannot find the negs.

 

LockwoodViaduct_002.jpg

 

Another view of Lockwood Viaduct.

 

LockwoodViaduct_001.jpg

 

Peter

Boy would thae make a good layout ,some very good info and piceures

[RRU]

3 x 3 car units in Marsh Lane cutting, Leeds having spent hours idling at Neville Hill shed.

 

 

Peter

 

[SGJ]

3 x 3 car units in Marsh Lane cutting, Leeds having spent hours idling at Neville Hill shed.

 

MarshLane_001.jpg

 

Peter

Marsh lane cutting has a heck of a lot more trees, bushes and weeds now

[Market65]

Here's a class 101 in freezing weather conditions, at Beverley North LC,  in January, 1987. It formed the first train to get through to Bridlington that afternoon at 3.00pm!

 

 

With regards,

 

Rob.

[Andrew s]

Churnet Valley Railway, 2006 or 2007. Don't know the class or the builder.

Should think someone knows.

[Fat Controller]

Churnet Valley Railway, 2006 or 2007. Don't know the class or the builder.

Should think someone knows.

BRC&W Class 104, I believe.

[muddys-blues]

3 x 3 car units in Marsh Lane cutting, Leeds having spent hours idling at Neville Hill shed.

 

MarshLane_001.jpg

 

Peter

 

Whoah .... not much fun if you are asthmatic 

[RRU]

Three more at Marsh Lane.

 

A 4 car 124 unit coupled to a 2 car 105 passing a HST entering Neville Hill shed.

 

A 4 car class 108 passing the same HST which is one vehicle short of the 8 car trains on the ECML at the time.

 

A class 104 heading for Leeds station.

 

Peter

[Trains4U]

 

A class 104 heading for Leeds station.

 

 

And to think, these were brought in to replace dirty polluting steam hauled trains

[SRman]

And to think, these were brought in to replace dirty polluting steam hauled trains

 

Where you been, boy? Them thar is them new-fangled steam railmotors!

 

p.s. There are some cracking shots in this topic. I like the Marsh Lane photos and there are some interesting combinations shown. I only have any memories of Marsh Lane and Neville Hill from the mid-1980s onwards, and even then, only from occasional use within fairly short periods of time (my mother was living in Barwick in Elmet and I was using trains to Crossgates on my occasional visits to Leeds).

[flyingsignalman]

A Helsby to Chester, via Hooton, DMU passing Ellesmere Port box in August 1990.

 

[RRU]

Last pics at Marsh Lane cutting.

 

 

 

 

More pollution at Neville Hill.

 

 

Peter

[Derekstuart]

Peter, sorry to be a bore but what is that in the first photo please?

(and before anyone tries to be funny with "a train" or similar...)

[SRman]

Swindon class 123 in first and second photos.

They were sent 'oop norf' to work intermixed with the remains of the Trans-Pennine class 124 units, one of which is seen the third photo.

 

I hope Peter doesn't mind me chipping in first.

Edited September 13, 2016 by SRman

[Derekstuart]

Thanks SRMan. I was aware of 123s and 124s and whatnot, but I've never seen one from that angle before- though I understand there were several different configurations. I shall go and see what google has to tell me about them.

 

Thank you.

[bescotbeast]

B Bridge Bubble 1 by Simon Barnes, on Flickr

Class 121 55033 T013 Midline by Simon Barnes, on Flickr

B Bridge Bubble 4 by Simon Barnes, on Flickr

Ex Strathclyde PTE MetCam by Simon Barnes, on Flickr

Former Valley Lines 108 DMU by Simon Barnes, on Flickr

Met Cam 101 New St by Simon Barnes, on Flickr

Class 117 by Simon Barnes, on Flickr

Regional Rlys 1991 by Simon Barnes, on Flickr

Regional Rlys 101 by Simon Barnes, on Flickr

323 and 101 by Simon Barnes, on Flickr

Manchester 108s by Simon Barnes, on Flickr

2 Car Green Met Camm by Simon Barnes, on Flickr

Silverlink Bubble by Simon Barnes, on Flickr

Double Bubble by Simon Barnes, on Flickr

Railtrack Lime green 101 by Simon Barnes, on Flickr

[RRU]

Peter, sorry to be a bore but what is that in the first photo please?

 

 

As SRman says it is a class 123 DMBS leading a Hull - Leeds train. There could well be a class 124 at the other end. At this time it was rare to see either of these classes as a complete train. I could never understand why.

Maybe someone here has some insider knowledge as to why. I can only guess that there were more centre cars than driving ones.

 

Peter

[The Stationmaster]

As SRman says it is a class 123 DMBS leading a Hull - Leeds train. There could well be a class 124 at the other end. At this time it was rare to see either of these classes as a complete train. I could never understand why.

Maybe someone here has some insider knowledge as to why. I can only guess that there were more centre cars than driving ones.

 

Peter

 

Once the two fleets were amalgamated a lot of effort was put into trying to get them more reliable (which a certain gentleman genuinely made his name for achieving as it happens) and formations were altered for all sorts of reasons - to reduce 1st Class accommodation, removing the engines from the Motor Buffet intermediate cars and so, and of course to make sure sets in traffic could reliably deliver power.  It's a big reason for making modelling of the trans-Pennine sets such a major task for manufacturers because of the numerous permutations and changes over the years.

[russ p]

Were they arranged it their latter years with a 123 car on one end and a 124 on the other to create sort of half sets so if a six car was formed hopefully the 123s would be in the middle

[leopardml2341]

Were they arranged it their latter years with a 123 car on one end and a 124 on the other to create sort of half sets so if a six car was formed hopefully the 123s would be in the middle

Being a resident of the area at that time it seemed, and I suspect it was, completely random.

[45125]

Once the two fleets were amalgamated a lot of effort was put into trying to get them more reliable (which a certain gentleman genuinely made his name for achieving as it happens) and formations were altered for all sorts of reasons - to reduce 1st Class accommodation, removing the engines from the Motor Buffet intermediate cars and so, and of course to make sure sets in traffic could reliably deliver power.  It's a big reason for making modelling of the trans-Pennine sets such a major task for manufacturers because of the numerous permutations and changes over the years.

 

The engines were removed from the MBSLs (motor brake second corridor lavatory) the buffet cars had all gone by 1975. The two fleets wee inter mixed as it was the most effective way to run them, as the Pennines were always regarded as loose vehicles, the mini Pennines took the same route. It was also as the amount of first class would have been excessive if you had two DMC and TCK in the same set (not unknown), one of the TCKs (59818) was downgraded on transfer to BG to help overcome the excess of first class.

 

The units were reasonably reliable given the milage they did and the bad driving techniques employed by some drivers. Other problems stemmed from a couple of depots who couldn't be arsed to do simple little jobs on them and would have them dragged back to BG for repairs...................