Derekstuart Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 Peter, (or anyone) Can I ask what the story of that brown and white one is please? I can see it reads South Yorkshire Transport, so presumably sponsored by S. Yorks CC. When/where/how/who etc? Was it inherited from the West Country or painted there?Also, ahem (and I realise I might be shot for this), for someone who knows little about 1st G DMUs, what class is it please? I can distinguish only 2 1st G DMUs- class 101 and NOT-101. Thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rivercider Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 Peter, (or anyone) Can I ask what the story of that brown and white one is please? I can see it reads South Yorkshire Transport, so presumably sponsored by S. Yorks CC. When/where/how/who etc? Was it inherited from the West Country or painted there? Also, ahem (and I realise I might be shot for this), for someone who knows little about 1st G DMUs, what class is it please? I can distinguish only 2 1st G DMUs- class 101 and NOT-101. Thanks. According to this photo on Flickr it is a Derby built class 114 set 53045 + 54004, and was the only set in this South Yorkshire colour https://www.flickr.com/photos/69947186@N08/11583415043/in/photolist-iDA2Jt-a8dy43-aiLNEd-9Vim3u-qctE3j-smyK6T-s4dNCg-fLTpqq-fw9XoH-qQLtoz-6vZwMM-eagqjo-oW9Jhe-e6w2n3-siqjVH-e9nKyL-ds5zyN-eizbKE-onUVPK-qLxkMz-dDbWAt-nCQax1-7BriGE-rr8SxT-6vZfU6-96NHZu-dGmCKL-jS5XnB-eb6VTp-dwYQid-6vZwJe-rp2RTD-rz39B2-pAtn4q-dKp2as-o28kUi-edQqcj-dLbBNQ-8WTa5F-oUwpHq-fFcPNe-oE6y4B-8XE3q8-hhGFad-7FcCsy-pPmhRZ-gTmRCL-ofisk3-q4b2hU-dXVqFT cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted September 26, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 26, 2016 I posted a photo of that 114 at Beverley earlier in the thread. It got around a bit. Rob. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRman Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 Peter, (or anyone) Can I ask what the story of that brown and white one is please? I can see it reads South Yorkshire Transport, so presumably sponsored by S. Yorks CC. When/where/how/who etc? Was it inherited from the West Country or painted there? Also, ahem (and I realise I might be shot for this), for someone who knows little about 1st G DMUs, what class is it please? I can distinguish only 2 1st G DMUs- class 101 and NOT-101. Thanks. As the previous posters have said, it was a class 114, also known as a Derby Heavyweight, unit. These were built on the long 64' underframes, unlike most of the lower density units (i.e. the ones that didn't have doors to every seating bay). The colour scheme was based on the buses also run for the South Yorkshire PTE, and used entirely different shades of paint than the Western Region chocolate and cream, or the later pseudo-western livery used on the Pacers sent there (known as Skippers in the west). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Robert Shrives Posted September 27, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 27, 2016 Hi , in 1984 the 114 gained the coffee and cream colours to celebrate 10 years of the South Yorkshire Passenger transport executive, for a while it had large side vinyls advertising same 53045 and 54004 were fleet numbers. Painted at Doncaster. Good pics show choc and cream had a white dividing line aka intercity blue grey livery and inner ends were choc colour as well. 114s were lovely sets and despite power trailers quite nippy - I guess 2 big albion engines helped. DTCL heating being only a diesel blower was a bit prone to suffer from flat batteries- as a guard a bit nippy in winter on the Snow hill - Shirley runs ! Robert Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wombatofludham Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 I remember the 114s being the mainstay of the early days on the Hednesford line just after re-opening. Very nice units. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
balders Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 I must admit to showing little interest in DMU's "back in the day". I do recall a long day on Sheffield in 82' being quite impressed by the modern aspects of Cl.123 / 124 units, looking like a proper set of coaches with their impressive frontal aspects. This is a very interesting thread thanks! Regards Guy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
90211 Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 A regular Bristol to Weymouth working in the late evenings during the 1960's was a 3 car unit hauling a SR CCT or similar. I was told by station staff at Westbury that the van contained Channel Islands mail. Does anyone have any photos of these workings? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted September 29, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 29, 2016 A regular Bristol to Weymouth working in the late evenings during the 1960's was a 3 car unit hauling a SR CCT or similar. I was told by station staff at Westbury that the van contained Channel Islands mail. Does anyone have any photos of these workings? SomewhereI I have a colour slide of it in the 1970s but it was an exLMS BG behind a loco hauled Weymouth train. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rivercider Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 Some DMU action from the 1980s in the Cardiff Valleys, starting with a view from Cardiff Central Class 116 set C319 runs down into Cardiff Central with the 14.25 service from Treherbert to Barry Island, 14/4/83 Two class 116 sets at Llandaff, C316 on the left has just terminated on a morning commuter service from Cardiff, C303 is calling on a southbound service headed for Cardiff, 26/6/81 Refurbished class 116 set C316 now crosses over to the down line ready to form a service back to Cardiff, 26/6/81 cheers 17 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
br2975 Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 Some DMU action from the 1980s in the Cardiff Valleys, starting with a view from Cardiff Central scan0085.jpg Class 116 set C319 runs down into Cardiff Central with the 14.25 service from Treherbert to Barry Island, 14/4/83 scan0192.jpg Two class 116 sets at Llandaff, C316 on the left has just terminated on a morning commuter service from Cardiff, C303 is calling on a southbound service headed for Cardiff, 26/6/81 scan0193.jpg Refurbished class 116 set C316 now crosses over to the down line ready to form a service back to Cardiff, 26/6/81 cheers Home turf. . Llandaff (for Whitchurch) dosen't look much like that now. . Brian R . . PS Correctly located in Llandaff North, and properly pronounced "Thlan-daffff" - why not be like a local and call it "Landuff" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leopardml2341 Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 Landuff my fathers then, eh bach? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted September 30, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 30, 2016 Home turf. . Llandaff (for Whitchurch) dosen't look much like that now. . Brian R . . PS Correctly located in Llandaff North, and properly pronounced "Thlan-daffff" - why not be like a local and call it "Landuff" The place where I caught a little scrote cheerfully trying to set fire to the embankment - the silly little beggar ran and I followed him (at a slightly slower rate) but he was obviously a bit dim as he went straight home, and into one of the houses along the road at the top of the embankment visible in those pics. So I went and knocked on the door, several times, until he finally got up the courage to answer it and explain that (happily it seemed) that both his parents were out. So I made it very clear to him that if during the school holidays then starting there was any vandalism, or any youngsters trespassing anywhere in that area I would be round with the police to his house and would start by having him arrested and that it was up to him to make sure he and his mates stayed outside the fence for the holidays and beyond. He must have been a bit bigger than all his mates because we went through the entire summer holiday with no trouble at all in that vicinity. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post billy_anorak59 Posted September 30, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted September 30, 2016 (edited) No numbers or specific dates 'cos I'm rubbish at keeping records, but I've tried to state the location, rough date, and guessed the class number (I'm not 100% when it comes to DMUs). Here goes - hope they're of interest to some anyway... Barmouth Summer 1967 - Class108? Approaching Bromborough Stn c.1981 - Refurbished Class 101. Is that an extra marker light above the destination blind? Was that common? Again approaching Bromborough Stn on the same day - Park Royal Class 103. We seemed to get a lot around there in those days. Chester c.1982 - Class 101? Trying out the starburst filter on my brand new Olympus OM10... Manchester Victoria 13th August 1977. Is it a 110? York 15th October 1977 - Class109. I think that this was the ER general Managers Inspection unit at this time? The only Wickham unit I ever saw. Winwick c.1985 - Class 101 6-car Finally, two from Weymouth in c.1982 - is this a Class 117? I thought it would be interesting to see what Mr Google's car makes of the same scene in 35 years-on.... it's all very light and airy nowadays... Edited June 23, 2022 by billy_anorak59 21 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisf Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 Barmouth 108 - tick. Bromborough 101 - it might have been an early one which had marker lights above the destination box and no 2 character headcode panels below the windscreen. Bromborough 103 - tick. Chester starburst - 108. Man Vic - 104, probably allocated to Buxton at some time in its life. Weymouth 117 - tick. Chris Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
45125 Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 The white stripe BRCW were usually Newton Heaths, they had a mod done on the bogies to improve the ride for the Victoria to Blackpool services. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rivercider Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 No numbers or specific dates 'cos I'm rubbish at keeping records, but I've tried to state the location, rough date, and guessed the class number (I'm not 100% when it comes to DMUs). Here goes - hope they're of interest to some anyway... Good work there Billy cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
railsquid Posted October 2, 2016 Share Posted October 2, 2016 Does this one count? Waggon & Maschinenbrau Railbus No. M79964 at Haworth KWVR. KWVR094.jpg Peter Waggon & Maschinenbau, "brau" is perilously close to "Bräu" aka "brew" 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
billy_anorak59 Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 Barmouth 108 - tick. Bromborough 101 - it might have been an early one which had marker lights above the destination box and no 2 character headcode panels below the windscreen. Bromborough 103 - tick. Chester starburst - 108. Man Vic - 104, probably allocated to Buxton at some time in its life. Weymouth 117 - tick. Chris Thanks for taking the time to go through my ramblings and for the info! Much appreciated. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RRU Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 Waggon & Maschinenbau, "brau" is perilously close to "Bräu" aka "brew" Thank you for correcting the spelling. I wasn`t sure of the spelling, so I checked it on the KWVR website and that is how it is spelt there. Peter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 A regular Bristol to Weymouth working in the late evenings during the 1960's was a 3 car unit hauling a SR CCT or similar. I was told by station staff at Westbury that the van contained Channel Islands mail. Does anyone have any photos of these workings? This was certainly how the mail went from the Sorting Office next to Temple Meads when I did the Christmas Post in 1974; I recollect it was a late afternoon/early evening working. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingsignalman Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 DMU heading south towards Shrewsbury through Whitchurch Ca 1981. ...and the same DMU returning north later the same day Blaenau Ffestiniog late 1981, DMU waiting to return to Llandudno Jcn. 14 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium keefer Posted October 3, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 3, 2016 Noticed the damage to the front of the 103s - IIRC this came up on photos on other units, apparently due to unhooking the air pipe before shutting off the cock? (It was a while ago, so I my just be talking cock) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted October 3, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 3, 2016 That damage seemed especially bad on the class 108's. Regards, Rob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted October 3, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 3, 2016 Noticed the damage to the front of the 103s - IIRC this came up on photos on other units, apparently due to unhooking the air pipe before shutting off the cock? (It was a while ago, so I my just be talking cock) There's a star valve in the air pipe, it has to be connected to a loco main res pipe when being assisted so the final drive can be locked in neutral, it shouldn't whip about when disconnected Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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