Grim-up-North; Goathland, Queensbury & Bradford.

[Sasquatch]

Crikey Mana mate. What do they eat, emus?

 

I've not had any unwanted guests in the warehouse so far this year mostly due to closing up that gap under the door! There has been a plague of scorpions in my barn/woodwork shop however and the cougar is becoming a real menace in the vicinity around abouts. The guy across the creek has 9 foot claw marks down his madrone tree.

 

Shaun

[manna]

G'day Shaun

 

At least we don't have Cougars, odd feral cat, and Dingo's are a long way away ( Think the spider on the toilet, has been photoshopped,...to small ?) LOL

 

manna

[Sasquatch]

More new trains.

This annoying camera of mine seems to go through batteries like a hungry hippo, so I have used SHMBO's camera on the trust that there are no train pictures on the card when done.

 

First in this morning is the exquisite L1 in apple green with my Thompson rake. I fancy doing a little work on these later and will show what's entailed in a later post.

 

Next in from the opposite direction is the D16 with a short parcels.

 

 

Then two freights. J15 with wood chip loads and J11 with a short train load of RSJs from Dorman long on Tees side on its way to Hull.

 

And ... a lull in services showing the goods yard and the scratch built fish van now weathered.

 

Squatch.

[ChrisN]

G'day Gents

 

You don't want to worry about those tiny little yankee spiders, it's the Aussie ones you have to worry about !!

 

Shaun, glad to hear your on the mend, good pics of the K3

 

manna

 

"Dad, dad, there's a spider in the bath!"

"Don't be silly they are nothing to worry about."

"Yeah, but this one is 3ft across and using all the hot water!"

 

That does not seem so funny now.

 

 

 

More new trains.

This annoying camera of mine seems to go through batteries like a hungry hippo, so I have used SHMBO's camera on the trust that there are no train pictures on the card when done.

 

First in this morning is the exquisite L1 in apple green with my Thompson rake. I fancy doing a little work on these later and will show what's entailed in a later post.

Goathland lner (4).JPG

 

Next in from the opposite direction is the D16 with a short parcels.

Goathland lner (5).JPG

 

 

Then two freights. J15 with wood chip loads and J11 with a short train load of RSJs from Dorman long on Tees side on its way to Hull.

Goathland lner (2).JPG

Goathland lner (1).JPG

 

And ... a lull in services showing the goods yard and the scratch built fish van now weathered.

Goathland lner (3).JPG

 

Squatch.

 

Excellent pictures.  Did you say 'scratch built fish van'? Very good.  It makes my coaches look a bit poor.

[Sasquatch]

Hi Chris.

Yes! To be honest I used Parkside under frame fittings:secret:. I'll check out your coach builds this evening.

The LNER only built 50 of them to dia.37. All I had to work with was one picture and one paragraph of info from LNER wagons vol.4A.

It got shunted into the goods shed earlier.

 

Here's one for you Mana. A noncondensing Scottish N2. At least two of these engines worked in the West Riding for some time.

Q: What period are you modeling mate?

 

Later...

[jukebox]

 "I have used SHMBO's camera on the trust that there are no train pictures on the card when done"

 

I've heard it called "train porn", but never known the fairer sex to be offended by it!

 

Regardless, love the results - they remind me of the look of some of the 1930's shots you see in books like The Big Four In Colour - they are a credit to you.

 

Cheers

 

Scott
 

[manna]

G'day Shaun

 

N2's a minefield, condensing gear yes/no tall chimneys, and used all over the place, GE, Scottish, GN, although 4744, was a KX engine, so it should have condensing gear (that's the preserved one ??)

 

Me I model 1920 through to 1970, though mostly the 1930's, but I don't run early LNER with BR, I keep them apart, so you won't see the Q1 with a Thompson L1.

 

manna

[Sasquatch]

Hi Scott.

Many photos were taken to bring you the few that you see above. Mrs. S. hates having to wade through 100s to find her pics. of puppies and kittens etc. All hell might break loose if she learnt it's called train porn!

 

My favorite is the A4... Terence Cuneo inspired!

 

here are a couple more that show what I'm aiming to achieve with Grim-Up-North.

 

And touched up.

 

Regards Shaun

[Sasquatch]

G'day Shaun

 

N2's a minefield, condensing gear yes/no tall chimneys, and used all over the place, GE, Scottish, GN, although 4744, was a KX engine, so it should have condensing gear (that's the preserved one ??)

 

Me I model 1920 through to 1970, though mostly the 1930's, but I don't run early LNER with BR, I keep them apart, so you won't see the Q1 with a Thompson L1.

 

manna

You're right! 4744 is the wrong number, I did that refinish well over 20 years ago long before forums! It's an Airfix one with a new Hornby chassis and underframe detailing etc. The number needs changing so that I can use it on the Halifax portion of the Yorkshire Pullman service on Queensbury.

 

Regards Shaun

[Sasquatch]

We decided to have an easy day today so modeling being my first choice for relaxation some old Ian Kirk Gresley stock I built donkeys years ago has been receiving the treatment.

My aim is to model a short rake of revarnished post war coaches with that somewhat in service look.

 

I began with the bogies by adding Bachmann mini type couplings and some step boards. The ride height also needed adjustment.

 

Then I prized off the ends and rebuilt them adding as much detail that I could (very time consuming). This will hopefully pay off when watching the tail end of the train disappear under bridges etc.

 

Hand rails were hashed up from brass wire and glued into pre drilled holes.

And then on to the revarnished finish. Rare colour pictures reveal different shades between panels.

My original finish involved humbrol coach brown #143 and a wash of tan #9. All I have added is a thinned coat of acrylic mixed on a pallet.

I'm quite happy with the effect. Note that refinished NE stock did not receive lining.

[Andrew P]

Morning Shaun, just a catch up as I've missed the last couple of your post's with some more excellent pics. The coach looks amazing, stunning workmanship again.

[moore43grm]

You're right! 4744 is the wrong number, I did that refinish well over 20 years ago long before forums! It's an Airfix one with a new Hornby chassis and underframe detailing etc. The number needs changing so that I can use it on the Halifax portion of the Yorkshire Pullman service on Queensbury.

 

Regards Shaun

something along these lines ?

 

 

 

 

SLS Collection.

Revised 21-9-13: This picture, with on the back of the print "Bradford Pullmans en route to Leeds", was suspect because there is no viaduct en route and was captioned in the book as the Halifax cars from the "West Riding" or "Yorkshire Pullman" behind N2 2587 in the 1930s at Brighouse. The correct location and direction of travel has now been found: the cars are leaving Halifax, have just passed through North Bridge station, and are ascending at some speed the 1:45 on the viaduct between Old Lane and Lee Bank tunnels, towards Queensbury and Bradford.

http://www.steve-banks.org/photographs/80-publications/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=75&catid=80&Itemid=500

[Sasquatch]

Thanks Moore43G. I've been following Steve Banks's articles since I was out of nappies. Can't you tell.

Also the locale in the picture was instantly recognized from other pictures on the internet.

This picture was also the inspiration for my bolster train!

[Sasquatch]

 

 

The other two coaches in the rake are brake thirds. 4 and 5 compartments.

 

This is a diagram 254 with the later truss under frame. Still needs the grab handles and a better paint job on the roof.

[ChrisN]

We decided to have an easy day today so modeling being my first choice for relaxation some old Ian Kirk Gresley stock I built donkeys years ago has been receiving the treatment.

My aim is to model a short rake of revarnished post war coaches with that somewhat in service look.

 

I began with the bogies by adding Bachmann mini type couplings and some step boards. The ride height also needed adjustment.

Gresley kirk rebuilds (1).JPG

 

Then I prized off the ends and rebuilt them adding as much detail that I could (very time consuming). This will hopefully pay off when watching the tail end of the train disappear under bridges etc.

Gresley kirk rebuilds (3).JPG

 

Hand rails were hashed up from brass wire and glued into pre drilled holes.

And then on to the revarnished finish. Rare colour pictures reveal different shades between panels.

My original finish involved humbrol coach brown #143 and a wash of tan #9. All I have added is a thinned coat of acrylic mixed on a pallet.

I'm quite happy with the effect. Note that refinished NE stock did not receive lining.

Gresley kirk rebuilds (2).JPG

 

Shaun,

What did you mix on the pallet?  The coaches do look good and you have captured the varnished look really well,  I assume it is varnished teak, I will need to produce mahogany at some time.

[Sasquatch]

Shaun,

What did you mix on the pallet?  The coaches do look good and you have captured the varnished look really well,  I assume it is varnished teak, I will need to produce mahogany at some time.

Let me see...

...basic artist colours! Yellow ochre, raw sienna, true burgundy and a touch of burnt umber.

 

Using the yellow ochre and burnt umber pigment (FolkArt 2910 & 452 respectively) as a base I then mixed in the other two(456 & 642) to varying shades. I used a fine flat brush and damp paper towel. The paint was thinned with a brush load of water.

Remember the original finish was Humbrol N^o 143 and a wash of Tan N^o9 both now unavailable. The Tan being a different shade these days.

 

The finish wont pass the super macro camera setting test but does make the coaches look quite authentic when rolling past.

 

I have found a twin set of two full thirds and a full brake pigeon van to do also, I'll pop a picture up when I get five minutes to show the improvement.

 

Regards Shaun.

Edited August 2, 2016 by Sasquatch

[Sasquatch]

The N2 has been renumbered so I have done yet another picture. See post 1587 above

Having just passed through Goathland station, N1 2587 with the Halifax portion of the Yorkshire Pullman, is ascending at some speed the 1:45 on the viaduct between Cowarth bank and Abbey tunnel, towards what will one day be Queensbury and Bradford.

Edited August 3, 2016 by Sasquatch

[Andrew P]

Nice B & W image there Shaun, I like the overcast Sky, vey realistic for the area, hahhah.

[Sasquatch]

We did developed a peculiar electrical fault today which when the points were switched for the crossover to the goods shed all the station lamps went out and the train stopped. I need to investigate. It must be a short because the thermal overload kicked in.

 

 

I took the afternoon off yesterday (from all the cabinet work and garden work etc.) and having a case of Sierra Nevada Oktober fest in the fridge set about an extensive running session.

Unfortunately the gremlins where up to their mischief and the above electrical fault mysteriously kicked in again. Having spent hours crawling about under the layout on the last occasion with unsuccessful results I concluded the fault must be elsewhere. So in a moment of despair I loosened the base board joint. The Gremlins didn't like that at all.

 

The dead frog from the double slip under the road bridge extends down to the board joint so when the rails warm up, they expand across said joint causing a short when the double slip is set for the good shed. Am glad that's fixed.

 

Some pictures of trains from the running session.... 

 

J15 shunting unfitted NE vans.

 

Goods engines on passenger duties.

 

J50 with bogie bolsters.

 

B1 with a fitted food train heading onto the viaduct on a gloomy morning.

 

The owner/operator of this wagon seems appropriate for the locale.

 

...and two more interesting types.

 

Here's another kirk coach build I did a few years back. The hand painted lining looks a tad too thick but I think adding some darker panels as with the non corridor stock should help.

 

Happy modeling. Shaun.

Edited August 7, 2016 by Sasquatch

[Sasquatch]

Unbelievable as it sounds I've made a start on Queensbury.

The procrastination and decision making has been a real headache for the most part.

I stuck with long diamond crossings as the short variety aren't available with live frogs. (Dead frogs being something for room 101). Short ones would have given me an extra 10", a scale 63' on all three sides.

Much compression was needed, Queensbury triangle was approx. 800 feet between the three diamond crossings. I'm down to about 530'. Sounds not too bad until one looks at how small the inside of the triangle comes out. Barely space for 3 platforms and waiting rooms. Point is it's a model and all things can be shrunk down a bit.

 

I started by sizing out some 8x4 sheets of MDF and marking out the inbound lines from the hidden sidings behind Goathland. Then I drew a large triangle and measured out the angles and set down all the point work. Using two large screws and a long thing offcut of thin ply drew on the track centers of the inner rails. Here's what it looks like.

 

 

this is the Goathland extension...

 

 

,,,and the hidden sidings behind.

 

The starting point From Goathland to more hidden sidings on bottom and to Queensbury top.

 

Back to it...

[manna]

G'day Gents

 

Quite big isn't it ????? but looking forward to it coming together.

 

manna

[Sasquatch]

G'day Manna.

It's 12'6" along the back, so I could stretch that leg of the triangle another 10 inches. there's 8'2" from front to back.

 

Also I have turned the track layout from my original plan. The lie of the land rises at the back which will help with the overall appearance, only disadvantage is that the Bradford corner will no longer lead to my model of Bradford. See what I mean about procrastination!

 

Squatch.

[Sasquatch]

Quick sketch as to where it all fits, or barely fits as the case may be

Edited August 26, 2016 by Sasquatch

[Andrew P]

Procrastinations YES, but it will look mighty impressive once done Shaun. that's also crying out for some more of your great scenic skills.

[manna]

G'day Gents

 

Hi Shaun, I'd go so far as in model railways, this will be unique, never seen anything like it, and GN to boot. 

 

manna