RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted September 25, 2014 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted September 25, 2014 Brian Thomas was helping on the layout at Redditch over the weekend His conversations with Paul prompted a delve back in to his photo archives where he unearthed these gems Firstly on 21st August 1972 89 Honourable Artillery Company waits for the road to Norton Junction and Worcester as 156 comes south from the same direction And then on 14th June 1973 1919 looks fresh off as she heads south with a train of 21 ton minerals The sun always does shine at Abbotswood Junction! Many thanks Brian Phil 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PjKing1 Posted September 25, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 25, 2014 Great pics!! We just need the rest of Brian's photos now Cheers, Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southernman46 Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 but but but where are all the trees.............................. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted September 25, 2014 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted September 25, 2014 but but but where are all the trees.............................. Geographical compression has led to enhanced arborial proximity on the model - after all this is a trunk route! Phil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnd Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 Lets not branch away from the main subject. ( sorry, just couldn't resist ) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold colin penfold Posted September 26, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 26, 2014 you just couldn't leaf it alone could you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ramblin Rich Posted September 26, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 26, 2014 Geographical compression has led to enhanced arborial proximity .... Management quality word usage there! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted September 27, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 27, 2014 Management quality word usage there! Careful, I got a flood of disagrees for using the vernacular, (but I know Phil would take it in the right spirit) Mike. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted September 27, 2014 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted September 27, 2014 (edited) A few more from Brian A pair of 25s on a down freight And another pair - on a banana train! And an ex works light loco Frothing allowed.......!!!! Phil Edited September 27, 2014 by Phil Bullock 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Downendian Posted September 28, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 28, 2014 Wow love the Banana train Phil heading North(?). That can only be from the Fyffes shipments that arrived at Avonmouth around that time. Have fond memories of those trains- any idea of the reporting codes and destination? Neil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted September 28, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 28, 2014 Wow love the Banana train Phil heading North(?). That can only be from the Fyffes shipments that arrived at Avonmouth around that time. Have fond memories of those trains- any idea of the reporting codes and destination? Neil In 1973 the Fyffes ships were still docking at Barry - I used to go down there quite often in the evenings and have some pics of one coming in through the lock. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Downendian Posted September 28, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 28, 2014 Good point re Barry Docks Mike, but that was Geest using that port? The Fyffes ships were Avonmouth. I can't see evidence of which company this train is. Neil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted September 28, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 28, 2014 Good point re Barry Docks Mike, but that was Geest using that port? The Fyffes ships were Avonmouth. I can't see evidence of which company this train is. Neil Could well be the case Neil - I'll have to try to delve out my transparencies to sort whose ships it was. And the vans could have finished up with any of those small posters on them I think as that often seemed to be the case as we got into the '70s. And of course the Barry trains were worked by proper diesels - seen here in 1964 - 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Downendian Posted September 28, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 28, 2014 Pairs of 25s also worked the Avonmouth trains. Interesting reporting code on the type 3 though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted September 28, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 28, 2014 Could well be the case Neil - I'll have to try to delve out my transparencies to sort whose ships it was. And the vans could have finished up with any of those small posters on them I think as that often seemed to be the case as we got into the '70s. And of course the Barry trains were worked by proper diesels - seen here in 1964 - D6898 comes off the Barryline at Cardiff Generall with a banana spcl 210664.jpg Hi Mike I wonder if D6898 had square top corners to the warning panel the other end? Most Type 3 had neat curved top corners. Pairs of 25s also worked the Avonmouth trains. Interesting reporting code on the type 3 though. As for the headcode, 4 as it is a fully fitted freight, Z is a spiecal, bananas would be off loaded when the ships docked and would not be a regular timetabled train, and 89 would be the train/working number. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted September 28, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 28, 2014 I can't recall what the other end looked like Clive, but I wonder if the difference in the yellow area might be down to which works built them? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TheSignalEngineer Posted September 28, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 28, 2014 I remember the banana trains coming into Birmingham in the 1960s. At one time some went to Lawley St, but one company used the Top Yard at Curzon St across the road from the main depot, where the original L&B Goods Depot stood. As the bananas needed to be a bit green when they went to the market, those that were too ripe were dumped every few days. On a Friday lunchtime you could get a carrier bag full in exchange for a pint of Mild at the Railway pub in Curzon St. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Downendian Posted September 29, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 29, 2014 (edited) [/quote name="Clive Mortimore" post="1605763" timestamp="1411906379"As for the headcode, 4 as it is a fully fitted freight, Z is a spiecal, bananas would be off loaded when the ships docked and would not be a regular timetabled train, and 89 would be the train/working number. I'm not surprised by the Z reporting code, but I was by the 4. In the 1970s this was used largely for air braked workings, e.g. Freightliners, speed links, for example 4E70 Danygraig-Stratford.I'm guessing the 1960s was different, and that 6ZXX or 7ZXX would have been more likely by the 70s indicating fitted by speed restricted freight.Neil Edited September 29, 2014 by Downendian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted September 29, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 29, 2014 I'm not surprised by the Z reporting code, but I was by the 4. In the 1970s this was used largely for air braked workings, e.g. Freightliners, speed links, for example 4E70 Danygraig-Stratford. I'm guessing the 1960s was different, and that 6ZXX or 7ZXX would have been more likely by the 70s indicating fitted by speed restricted freight. Neil The standardised version of Class 4 came into existence in 1960 and was basivcally a separation of fully fitted freight etc trains out of the old Class C but still carrying what had been Class C lamps (the LNER had classified trains by number instead of letter at one time I believe). The 1960 version was slightly amended in June 1962 and completely altered in May 1969 when what had been Class 4 effectively became Class 6. The 1960 version of Class 4 had the same headlamp code as Class 3 but the new Class 4 in 1969 had a different headlamp code from Class 3 (and from Class 6 of course). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted October 9, 2014 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted October 9, 2014 Time for some more of Brian Thomas's super pictures UID Whizzo on what must be Longbridge - Swindon. No headboard clips? That must help with ID! A lot of freights were type 4s - look at those lovely Bolster Es, if that was heading north I would have suggested that was a Llandeilo Jct - Langley Green - but its heading south! And again a type 4 hauled freight. Cheers Bri! Phil 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southernman46 Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 (edited) A lot of freights were type 4s - look at those lovely Bolster Es, Yes - one of the most desired but consistently overlooked by the RTR Manu's wagons (IMHO) - just the same length as a Tube open. (The LIMA one needs work - if you can actually find them) Edited October 10, 2014 by Southernman46 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted October 10, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 10, 2014 A lot of freights were type 4s - look at those lovely Bolster Es, if that was heading north I would have suggested that was a Llandeilo Jct - Langley Green - but its heading south! From memory, (hazy), it was seeing 8V88 at Chesterfield that got me started on the bobol E's, ISTR it was a Scunthorpe - Cardiff working, will have to find the relevant WTT. Can't think why there's a shortage of the Lima models! Mike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted October 10, 2014 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted October 10, 2014 Yup - and once again have voted for bobol Es in the poll this year! Any ways this months edition of the Hornby mag is out - and look whats on the cover http://www.hornbymagazine.com/central/images/covers/large/5823.jpg Thanks to Mike Wild for giving us the coverage, Trevor Jones for the super photos and Kevin Derrick for being the first to grab a copy. Phil 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PjKing1 Posted October 10, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 10, 2014 Could of told us it was out today, just got back from the shops!! I'll have to go an get a copy tomorrow Phil Cheers, Paul 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Scott Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 Yup - and once again have voted for bobol Es in the poll this year! Any ways this months edition of the Hornby mag is out - and look whats on the cover http://www.hornbymagazine.com/central/images/covers/large/5823.jpg Thanks to Mike Wild for giving us the coverage, Trevor Jones for the super photos and Kevin Derrick for being the first to grab a copy. Phil May be you should have kept your hat on Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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