Grimsby, Immingham and surrounding area

[Mark Saunders]

Doc

 

It is nice to see some train shots as I visited several times and never saw any of the wagons move!

 

The Red tops were shortened ex TSV tank chassis and the Yellow ex Anchor mounted tanks with different style bodies all rebuilt by WH Davis!

 

Mark Saunders

[hmrspaul]

Doc

 

It is nice to see some train shots as I visited several times and never saw any of the wagons move!

 

The Red tops were shortened ex TSV tank chassis and the Yellow ex Anchor mounted tanks with different style bodies all rebuilt by WH Davis!

 

Mark Saunders

Photos http://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/btptioxide

 

Paul

[Not Captain Kernow]

Finally a request for a date please. Cleethorpes did once have a 58 tour and the image is taken at Brocklesby. Having gone to all the trouble to drive out to photograph her I omitted to record both the locomotives and the date! 

 

Really enjoying these images so far - may have to add some of my own if that is OK?

 

The tour you have photographed was on 11th April 1992 and was organised by BR.  It ran Sheffield - Swinton - Mexborough - Hexthorpe Jn - Bentley Jn - Scunthorpe - Barnetby - Grimsby Town - Cleethorpes and return, featuring 58 026 and 58 039 named "Rugeley Power Station".  The return journey was hauled by 56 095 and 56 080.  It was called the "Gainsborough Bridge 213 Special" although I cannot for the life of me remember why now, especially as it did not even go that way!  I went because I needed the Doncaster avoiding line.

 

This was the second time that 58 039 had visited Cleethorpes on a railtour.  On 20th September 1986 Hertfordshire Railtours organized a tour from King's Cross to Skegness and Cleethorpes behind 58039.

 

1G20 "Lincolnshire Coast Pullman" ran as follows:

London Kings Cross - Stevenage - Peterborough - Grantham - Barkston South Jn - Barkston East Jn - Sleaford - Boston - Skegness (R/R)

 

Skegness - Boston - Sleaford - Sleaford South Jn - Sleaford North Jn - Lincoln Central - Gainsborough Lea Road - Doncaster - Carcroft Jn - Skellow Jn - Stainforth and Hatfield - Scunthorpe - Barnetby - Grimsby - Cleethorpes (R/R)

 

Cleethorpes - Grimsby - Barnetby - Scunthorpe - Stainforth and Hatfield - Stainforth Jn - Bentley Jn - Hexthorpe Jn - Mexborough - Rotherham - Treeton North Jn - Catcliffe Jn - Shepcote Lane Jn - Attercliffe Jn - Darnall - Woodhouse - Worksop - Whisker Hill Jn - Retford - Newark - Peterborough - Stevenage - London Kings Cross

Edited November 8, 2016 by Not Captain Kernow

[DOCJACOB]

Thanks for the tour information.

 

Feel free to add/amend and chip in

 

Not yet touched on oil workings, multiple departmentals, plenty more ore variations and container coal i think. And still got some images from Immingham depot and 47.401 and her sisters to do.  

 

Might even add the odd passenger working for variety

[jamie92208]

A lovely set of images.  The ones of the Tioxide traffic are interesting as I believe that they were the last loose coupled trains to run on the British network.

 

Jamie

[DOCJACOB]

Tioxide must have been quite keen on W H Davis. 2 from the earlier wagon fleet went to Lincolnshire Wolds.

 

They have since succumbed to serious tin worm, the body of the second is part of the load!

 

They were rather rare being rebodied (by W H Davis) SNCF types from WW2. You can just make out the tarpaulin roping rings in the corner.

[Mark Saunders]

Tioxide must have been quite keen on W H Davis. 2 from the earlier wagon fleet went to Lincolnshire Wolds.

 

They have since succumbed to serious tin worm, the body of the second is part of the load!

 

They were rather rare being rebodied (by W H Davis) SNCF types from WW2. You can just make out the tarpaulin roping rings in the corner.

Rebodied is an overstatement as all the conversion of the 1/112 minerals was the filling in of the doors to produce a tippler!

 

Mark Saunders

[DOCJACOB]

Sorry slightly random selection tonight. In my defence been a longs day; up at 5 am to drive to Kings Lynn for all day CQC inspection and then drive home. 

 

37.202 on short oil tanker laid 2/92 Brocklesby 

 

37.110 on covered wagons 8/91 Brocklesby 

 

37.255 and 37.377 double heading empty ore working back to Immingham 

 

37.890 light locomotive, have image of her hauled in (?fault) by another locomotive 2 days earlier. Image taken 2/92 Brocklesby

 

47.054 as bit of variety on steel working to Grimsby 8/90

 

37.106 and 37.351 on hopper working (suspect swap for the usual 56 haulage) 

Edited November 9, 2016 by DOCJACOB

[DOCJACOB]

Few more for tonight. 

 

Over the W/E a good few of 47.401 and her sisters, more of Colonel B and a few randoms. 

 

Apologies as some not identified just snapped. 

 

The multiple departmental workings tended to be ex Immingham circa 3pm on a Friday returning back to Immingham on Monday usually PM. Some days were better than others for photographs. 

 

08.445 making slow progress to ??? on 11/2/92. 

 

37.131 as a colourful lead to some tanks.

 

Finally awful picture but included for curiosity the green 20's 030 and 064 on oil tanks heading in Immingham I did snap them on Immingham depot but by then light was appalling  

Edited November 10, 2016 by DOCJACOB

[DOCJACOB]

Quick random image from 1999. 

 

No idea why was at Barnetby at this precise time. 

 

Pretty sure was a locomotive crew change as well. 

 

Shows some of the old station and a similar picture would be tricky now due to the blue bridge monstrosity! 

[DOCJACOB]

A few more. 

 

Unidentified 66 close to the exit from Tioxide works and a few hundred yards behind the image of Typhoon posted earlier. Probably a lucky catch when on a run the the Council tip. 

 

2 insulfish vans outside Fishing Heritage Museum. Looking much whiter then currently! 

 

31.212 on ballast hoppers at Woad lane crossing on 1/90. The Novartis plant is directly behind me. 

 

Finally must have got on-site again and had a chance to photograph the little fellow. 

[DOCJACOB]

For a while we were treated to double headed 47's on oil workings. 

 

The 60's arrived en-masse soon after and I've always surmised these were short term workings due to delays in 60 arrival? 

 

We have selection of images of this working;

 

3 at Brocklesby junction, 2 just west of Brocklesby station from the edge of a field and one further west at Barnetby

 

47.423 unofficially Septre and another unidentified 47 west of Brocklesby 12/90, two unidentified 47's at Brocklesby junction 11/90

 

47.295 and 47.052 Barnetby 8/90 with 47.295 and 47.115 at Brocklesby 12/90 

 

Finally 47.319 Norsk Hydro and 47.380 Immingham west of Brocklesby 11/90 and 47.319 Norsk Hydro paired with 37.307 Bunting at Brocklesby Junction 11/90

 

 

[DOCJACOB]

All 56's this time. 

 

Never really thought about the colour variations but definitely more than I remember. 

 

All bar a couple taken at Brocklesby. 

 

EWS 56.113 no date but already the remodelling of Brocklesby track layout and repair to the olds stations has occurred. 

 

Unidentified departmental 56, again no date at Barnetby 

 

Large logo 56's 56.109 Brocklesby 12/90, suspect 56.126 is Spring 91 from the surrounding vegetation 

 

Redstripe 56's 56.083 taken 1/90 and 56.108 9/89 

 

Coal Sector 56's are 56.129 on Cawoods containers 12/90 and 56.072 (?non standard numbers on cab side) 6/91

 

Load Haul 56's are both unidentified and un-dated. Brocklesby image is curious as train heading out on the Grimsby line. Other at Barnetby before the major signalling changes and demolition of the warehouse which can just be seen behind the trees 

 

 

[DOCJACOB]

As promised a few of D1500 

 

2 shots taken at Immingham Depot.  From memory I was kindly allowed a couple of visits; Firstly in full large logo livery 1/90 and a year layer a sutble change with D1500 at one end and 47.401 at the other. 

 

Next 2 leaving shots on oil workings taken at Brocklesby Station 5/91 and west of the station 6/91, appears by now wearing nameplates. 

 

Barnetby with 47.374 hauling her dead 7/90 and then a sort of return favour with her hauling 31.156 home on 11/90

 

We have her light (under all the grime) heading back to Immingham on 3/91. Image taken west of Brocklesby station. 

 

Finally a repaint to green occurred and we have her:

 

Brocklesby Junction heading out with oil tanks on 9/91. We have the same return working (I guess) into Immingham on 8/91 Finally light locomotive opposite Brocklesby station 2/92 

Edited November 13, 2016 by DOCJACOB

[DOCJACOB]

Did promise something from left base so here it is.

 

A boundary marker from the 1840's??

 

Easily passed by in centre of Grimsby

 

Manchester, Sheffield and Lincolnshire Railway eventually became Great Central

[Hippel]

Hi DOCJACOB, I used to live in Grimsby myself - where exactly is that?

Thanks,

Paul.

[class"66"]

Very nice pictures and information here guys!!!

 

 

 

cheers neil.

[DOCJACOB]

For Hippel (do you know where the WW1 zeppelin raid marker is or why Cornwall Ward was so called in Grimsby Hospital?) 

 

We have 2 images of Carter Gate Crossing (the MS&L item is near here) Firstly in 8/89, fascinating signal post with all the adjacent level crossings and dual arms for sighting. Later in 4/90 following an arson attack 

 

Next we have Littlefield Lane, on an unrecorded date, I'm sure I once saw a MS&LR iron boundary post behind the container but tried again to find it a couple of times with no joy.

 

Garden street 11/89 I think this is a listed signal box and was under the impression the brick base was following blast damage circa WW2. 

 

Certainly the old bridge over Doughty Road had bullet/cannon fire hole in it, courtesy of Luftwaffe? When replaced the section with the holes was securely removed and was last seem plinthed at the road side. 

 

Now all passed into history as not a semaphore in sight! 

Edited November 15, 2016 by DOCJACOB

[Bedders]

For Hippel, the ms&l block on streetview - https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@53.5636111,-0.0916604,3a,75y,264.47h,60.81t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s7vkb9U1s4J-MEGnHS1N5YQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1

[Classsix T]

Unidentified departmental 56, again no date at Barnetby

 

 

That'un is 56031 Doc. (disregarding my rather anorak knowledge of Dutch shod Grids) With bufferbeam cowling but no other Romanian identifiers makes it one of the first two off the Doncaster production line, the small patch paint is rust-proofing where 'Merehead' 'plates have been removed.

Loadhaul jobs are a bit harder to id though I'm afraid!

 

C6T.

[Hippel]

Hi Docjacob. Thanks for the response, I didn't use Cartergate crossing much, as I lived off Scatho Road so would usually catch the no.8 bus. Re the Cornwall Ward, is this the same as Cornwell? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Cornwell

It seems this brave young man was brought to Grimsby in WW1, and had a street in Nunsthorpe named after him too.

Fascinating pictures, I used to cycle to Immingham shed along the sea defence wall but never got to see that shunter at Ciba-Geigy.

Paul

[DOCJACOB]

Thanks for the 56 identification.

 

Cornwall ward was named after Jack Cornwall. His ship was ordered to Immingham and the wounded boy taken to old Grimsby Hospital.

 

As regards the Zeppelin the bombs fell just south of Scartho Fork near to the recently closed branch of Barclays.

[DOCJACOB]

Generally more interested in locomotives but occasionally passenger workings were seen and photographed. 

 

37.351 and 37.106 on ore working at Brocklesby no date

 

37.372 and 37.225 (blue) on ore working at Brocklesby 8.89 

 

Next some rather colourful combinations the pie-bald 150 set is taken at Melton Ross 7/90 and another image at Brocklesby 9/89 of a similar pie-bald pair with a 142 in tow?

 

The other two are at Brocklesby Junction and the "metro" set was snapped in 4/90 

 

 

[ForestPines]

For Hippel (do you know where the WW1 zeppelin raid marker is or why Cornwall Ward was so called in Grimsby Hospital?)

 

We have 2 images of Carter Gate Crossing (the MS&L item is near here) Firstly in 8/89, fascinating signal post with all the adjacent level crossings and dual arms for sighting. Later in 4/90 following an arson attack

I know of the Zeppelin marker - it's on Pinfold Lane. 30 years ago it was next to a bookies and a fishmonger; I have no idea what's there now.

 

For some reason the level crossing on Cartergate was always known to the railway as Friargate Crossing, even though the road has been called Cartergate since at least the 17th century.

[DOCJACOB]

The zeppelin marker is still on Pinfold lane

 

A few images from 6/92 at my usual haunt of Brocklesby

 

Unidentified 47 (Guess Billingham Enterprise but date may be wrong if still wearing nameplate or Appleby Frodingam but nameplate shape not 100% right) 

 

56.087 Railfreight Coal 

 

Departmental job out in daylight hours, from memory usually to be found in an old loading dock siding at Barnetby 

 

Unidentified 37 heading to Grimsby to collect coils 

Edited November 17, 2016 by DOCJACOB