TomScrut Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 4 hours ago, D9020 Nimbus said: I suspect with all the various gimmicks you're adding I won't be able to justify the expense of purchasing one. They certainly won't be at a "low price aimed at modellers" So a Hornby one will probably do you then? 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
charliepetty Posted October 13, 2022 Author Share Posted October 13, 2022 Which 'Gimmicks' don't you want ???? Lights, DCC Interface, fine detailing ??? IF the Hornby was re-introduced it would be £170.00 and its basicly junk!!! Charlie 2 9 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Black Hat Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 Theres always one. Theres no gimmicks on that model your making. As somsone who runs DCC and sound, and lights, this thing, has everything that is needed for really good operation to capture the attention of those watching. Totally loving the idea of a few of them in bay platforms on my layout with reds on at either end sat there idling away... 2 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dj_crisp Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 13 hours ago, charliepetty said: Which 'Gimmicks' don't you want ???? Lights, DCC Interface, fine detailing ??? IF the Hornby was re-introduced it would be £170.00 and its basicly junk!!! Charlie Keep up the good work Charlie! I'm liking all of the extra effort you're putting in on this model.... well worth it IMO. 1 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Black Hat Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 People will say its lacking gimmicks if it doesn't bounce... 1 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
black and decker boy Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 I’m expecting my ears to bleed as they negotiate radius 1 curves. Anything less will not match my earlier years riding round Oldham loop on a Saturday night and the sound chip will have failed to deliver.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post charliepetty Posted November 2, 2022 Author Popular Post Share Posted November 2, 2022 Looking good !! 25 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium richierich Posted November 6, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 6, 2022 Is there any plans for a multi-pin connector between vehicles so only one DCC decoder is needed? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted November 7, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 7, 2022 Just noted the price is now £280. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wombatofludham Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 Considering the tech and detailing, that's still not bad given the way prices are going. Still mulling over whether a "Rule 1" purchase could be justified, I always liked the 142s and although they never ran in revenue service in the West Midlands they did work test runs in the area. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium stephennicholson Posted November 7, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 7, 2022 17 hours ago, richierich said: Is there any plans for a multi-pin connector between vehicles so only one DCC decoder is needed? My understanding is that it will require two decoders. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradfordbuffer Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 On 09/08/2022 at 16:37, nigb55009 said: I seem to remember 142084 being fitted with a Gardner engine at some point. It was tried as a poosible replacement for the TL11, before the adoption of the Cummins engine. I`m not sure of the dates though. Some time after 93 as it turned up at skipton after I had transferred from garston depot, if memory OK had some green light by sole bar local start stop button.....deep growl on starting... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradfordbuffer Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 On 05/10/2022 at 22:12, charliepetty said: More & More Apart from the funny looking BSI Coupling!🤣 Stunning Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradfordbuffer Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 On 09/08/2022 at 16:24, adb968008 said: Thanks for this, you just settled a dispute I had with someone for 20 odd years… I said for ages, the driving style of a 142 was the same as driving a Heritage DMU when introduced… gradual inputs, followed by step changing gears and revving… exactly as this…. Since the changes, the style of engine reviving followed that of Sprinters.. high revs to build speed with a continued engagement of pace until full speed i knew I wasnt imagining it.. 141’s were the same. compare it to this to see what i mean.. Notch 1 engaged spazzy gearbox unit would lurch to a crawl notch 2 and 3 done nothing else notch 4 revs increased, most drivers buzzed buzzed and straight to notch 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toby_tl10 Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 18 hours ago, adb968008 said: Just noted the price is now £280. And that's only if you buy it new. With only 200 models produced for each variant, I can't imagine what the second hand prices will be like Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
charliepetty Posted November 8, 2022 Author Share Posted November 8, 2022 (edited) On 06/11/2022 at 23:36, richierich said: Is there any plans for a multi-pin connector between vehicles so only one DCC decoder is needed? No and the main reason for this is reliability and customer damage to this fragile item, the 143 & 144 had an 8Pin plug which caused loads of grief, constant reliability issues with bent pins etc, and also to work the lighting feature we need far more than eight pins, thus an ugly Bachmann style coupling. Charlie Edited November 8, 2022 by charliepetty 8 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted November 8, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 8, 2022 (edited) 18 hours ago, bradfordbuffer said: Notch 1 engaged spazzy gearbox unit would lurch to a crawl notch 2 and 3 done nothing else notch 4 revs increased, most drivers buzzed buzzed and straight to notch 7 Didnt those gearboxes start falling off, around the sametime class 155 doors started opening whilst at high speed ? I was on a 155 when the door opened at high speed… the wind caught it exiting a tunnel, then the door mechanism engaged and slid it open… must have been doing 70+ at the time. I knocked on the guards door and he came out looked at it, went “huh thats not right”, and brought the train to a stand with the emergency handle. He locked the door out of use and we carried on. Iirc thats why we got 5 years of NW loco hauled. Edited November 8, 2022 by adb968008 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradfordbuffer Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 14 minutes ago, adb968008 said: Didnt those gearboxes start falling off, around the sametime class 155 doors started opening whilst at high speed ? I was on a 155 when the door opened at high speed… the wind caught it exiting a tunnel, then the door mechanism engaged and slid it open… must have been doing 70+ at the time. I knocked on the guards door and he came out looked at it, went “huh thats not right”, and brought the train to a stand with the emergency handle. He locked the door out of use and we carried on. Iirc thats why we got 5 years of NW loco hauled. 142s have been dropping bits since new Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian_B Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 but how many lines would have gone if the 142's had not been introduced? Ian_B 3 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradfordbuffer Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 1 hour ago, Ian_B said: but how many lines would have gone if the 142's had not been introduced? Ian_B I'm a fan of them for what that are/where, spent many draughty winters on 142s and many hot sweaty dummers on 144s and many buttock clenching autumn's on both! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted November 9, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 9, 2022 (edited) 7 hours ago, Ian_B said: but how many lines would have gone if the 142's had not been introduced? Ian_B Turn that around and ask how many lines might go, now they've gone. funding 195’s on branchlines that couldn't sustain a 142 isn't a recipe for future, when the only thing on the dft’s mind is savings… the 455’s went of Southern purely through cutbacks alone, Northern wont be immune either. Edited November 9, 2022 by adb968008 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted November 10, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 10, 2022 10 hours ago, adb968008 said: Turn that around and ask how many lines might go, now they've gone. funding 195’s on branchlines that couldn't sustain a 142 isn't a recipe for future, when the only thing on the dft’s mind is savings… I think 484’s or similar would be more likely if there were other allocation options for the 195’s. While there’s units to shuffle around the cheapest hire will be used or spare traction from fleet hires. That’s why we saw a mix of diesel and electric traction on the Lymington branch for a while because they shuffled it around maintenance and availability to fill the week and weekend diagrams until other changes freed up electric units all week. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian_B Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 3 hours ago, PaulRhB said: I think 484’s or similar would be more likely if there were other allocation options for the 195’s. While there’s units to shuffle around the cheapest hire will be used or spare traction from fleet hires. That’s why we saw a mix of diesel and electric traction on the Lymington branch for a while because they shuffled it around maintenance and availability to fill the week and weekend diagrams until other changes freed up electric units all week. I'd expect the converted tube carriages to put in an appearance (don't know their TOPS class) Ian_B Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonC Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 29 minutes ago, Ian_B said: I'd expect the converted tube carriages to put in an appearance (don't know their TOPS class) Ian_B Class 230s and 484s Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted November 10, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 10, 2022 32 minutes ago, Ian_B said: I'd expect the converted tube carriages to put in an appearance (don't know their TOPS class) Ian_B That’s what a 484 is 😉 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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