Andrew P Posted January 28, 2017 Author Share Posted January 28, 2017 Very good point. I really want my local shop on the north side of Brisbane to continue - the guys in there are great and really try hard to track down stuff. But the sad reality is that they cannot compete for range or price with UKinternet stores. I get most of my stuff in parcels from the UK these days. But as Andy says a store that is just five minutes away and has the small crucial items comes in very handy and needs to be supported. Yeah, I feel for you guys down under, and with parcels from Blighty arriving upside down as well! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted January 28, 2017 Author Share Posted January 28, 2017 I agree Andy. I miss our local model shop that was always worth a browse. Tutbury has probably the biggest Second Hand selection in the area and everything else the modeller needs as well from Solder to Track, from Paints and Glues to Static Flocks from Peco, Gaugemaster and Woodlands Scenic's, New Oxford, Hornby, Bachmann and Dapol, even O Gauge. Well worth a visit 7 days a week. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted January 28, 2017 Author Share Posted January 28, 2017 There's one or two model shops that are bucking the trend of shutting, just over a year ago one opened in Barnsley for first time in years and its thriving ,but it has had to move with the times and it's main business is war gaming and card gaming which is fair enough but it does stock all the bits I want and if not they'll order them in It's doing so well they expanded and bought tags at Doncaster ,also now in corporating war gaming and the like (Usual disclaimer of no connection other than a satisfied customer) But with combining with the war gaming it does seam to have caught a huge market round here I do agree the old school modelshop of old are dying off unless your a internet box shifter Sorry for going OT Andy Brian That's O.K. Bri, I started it. Totally agree Andy, I've seen plenty go with an obituary in recent years never to be seen again. I'm in the fortunate position of being between Chester model railway centre (Paul is a great guy and helpful to the nth degree a traditional shop owner and a gem for advice) S&J models and grimy times in Warrington. The harsh reality is that times are tough. Grimy times primarily provide a service with the shop as a secondary thing. Paul has been hit hard with Hornby's recent woes and S&J is an aladdins cave which has stemmed the modern time that has lost many future modellers. Two shops in Widnes one of which is Hattons also help to keep me sane, but I feel many of these stores could do with reinventing in terms of weathering, scratch building, scenic building and electrics type workshops etc.... but alas this costs time as well as money and I'm not sure overheads would work out favourable. John I've bought a few bits from S&J by mail order so never been to the Shop, and very good they are too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted January 28, 2017 Author Share Posted January 28, 2017 Looking great Andy Thanks Shed? thanks for popping in, still loads to do, but getting there slowly, as I said I would with this build. A year or two ago I would have been very disappointed not to have it at least ballasted and fully running by now, but I'm happy with it's slow and steady progress. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
380John Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 That's O.K. Bri, I started it. I've bought a few bits from S&J by mail order so never been to the Shop, and very good they are too. Imagine the living room of an average size house with shelves on every wall crammed full of the stuff that's getting increasingly difficult to get your hands on plus the new stuff. Great for those little projects we have. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted January 28, 2017 Author Share Posted January 28, 2017 So back ON/Topic NO I said ON TOPIC. I've only done a little wiring this morning, but the Goods Yard need a lot of feeds so may be able to finish it off later. I did a full run of the Docks Branch to test that part of the Fiddle Yard and this week I'll put an edging along in front of the Fiddle Yard to ensure that nothing gets knocked off whilst working over there re arranging Stock etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
avonside1563 Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 Question about the goods yard, it might just be me but how are the wagons supposed to be unloaded? They look like you haven't allowed much more than the standard 6' between roads so no one could gain any access down either side of vehicles to actually unload anything off them! Looks more like a collection of sidings with no real purpose than a goods yard. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted January 28, 2017 Author Share Posted January 28, 2017 Question about the goods yard, it might just be me but how are the wagons supposed to be unloaded? They look like you haven't allowed much more than the standard 6' between roads so no one could gain any access down either side of vehicles to actually unload anything off them! Looks more like a collection of sidings with no real purpose than a goods yard. Your right, it's not actually a Goods Yard, more of a Marshalling Yard for the Docks and onward transfer of Traffic to other Regions. Wrong wording by me, sorry. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcus 37 Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 Afternoon Andy. I like the look of the mock up of the entrance to the fiddle yard. Much more interesting than the usual bridge or tunnel mouth. Plus a bit more operational interest with local services stopping in the platform. Excellent idea indeed. Quite agree about your views of supporting your local model shop. I buy most of my rolling stock from AE Oakes at Langley Green. As you say if your short of the odd little item their always there when you need them. Cheers Marcus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted January 28, 2017 Author Share Posted January 28, 2017 Well all the wiring is now completed, and so some serious playing WHOOPS SORRY testing can begin. probably not tonight but hopefully some tomorrow. once that's done I can fit the Kadee Magnets and look at wiring the Point Motors, OR MAYBE NOT, horrible job and definitely NOT one I'm looking forward to . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andi4x4 Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 .......... and look at wiring the Point Motors, OR MAYBE NOT, horrible job and definitely NOT one I'm looking forward to . What point motors are you using Andy ? I usually use Seep or the Hornby/Peco type. What I do is wire the motors up to a chocolate block type connector before fitting - makes things a lot easier when scrabbling about under the boards ! That said, my current layout allowed me to wire each board upside down on the workbench and test as I was going along, but I still used the choc block connectors. Makes it easier to swap out a duff one too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted January 28, 2017 Author Share Posted January 28, 2017 What point motors are you using Andy ? I usually use Seep or the Hornby/Peco type. What I do is wire the motors up to a chocolate block type connector before fitting - makes things a lot easier when scrabbling about under the boards ! That said, my current layout allowed me to wire each board upside down on the workbench and test as I was going along, but I still used the choc block connectors. Makes it easier to swap out a duff one too. Hi Andi, there all Peco and I've put long tails on them to reach the Switches and there all tested when wired. I need to make a shelf for the Peco Lever Frame to sit on and put a feed in from the Transformer, no big jobs, and not hard work, just a pain in the A to bring all the wires up to the switches in right order. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Chimer Posted January 28, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 28, 2017 Probably a day late for my two penn'orth on the new station idea - but anyway - a different option would be a single island platform between either the WR or LMR lines, so clearly belonging to just one company in the past, and underlining the fact that the two sets of tracks are going to different places eventually ..... just a thought. Cheers Chris Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andi4x4 Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 Hi Andi, there all Peco and I've put long tails on them to reach the Switches and there all tested when wired. I need to make a shelf for the Peco Lever Frame to sit on and put a feed in from the Transformer, no big jobs, and dot hard work, just a pain in the A to bring all the wires up to the switches in right order. Oh, are you not using the DCC for the points then, or do you have another cunning plan ? Mine are all running back to decoders under each of the boards, so relatively short runs and no more than four runs per board, either, which helped. I plan to upgrade to DCC Concepts Cobolt (or similar) eventually, as, whilst I like the extra functionality of DCC, I still prefer knobs and switches - feels more like you are interacting with the railway, unlike my current setup which has all the control via a touchscreen laptop. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted January 28, 2017 Author Share Posted January 28, 2017 Probably a day late for my two penn'orth on the new station idea - but anyway - a different option would be a single island platform between either the WR or LMR lines, so clearly belonging to just one company in the past, and underlining the fact that the two sets of tracks are going to different places eventually ..... just a thought. Cheers Chris Thanks for your thoughts and idea Chris, but because of it's proximity to the incoming Fiddle Yard Points I can't separate the Tracks, besides I do like the Four Platform Faces. Thanks anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgeT Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 Hello Buddy, Glad to see you have now got a nice big fiddle yard, plenty of room for loads of trains, cant wait to come down for a play... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.C.M Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 Evening Andy, Just having a catch up and wow you have been busy. The station and Marshalling yard looks great. I really love the entrance to the fiddleyard too the station idea will work really well. One problem that I can see though. And I have had the same problem. I think you will need more sidings in your fiddleyard. lol Seriously though this ones a cracker. Cheers Peter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted January 30, 2017 Author Share Posted January 30, 2017 Hello Buddy, Glad to see you have now got a nice big fiddle yard, plenty of room for loads of trains, cant wait to come down for a play... Evening Andy, Just having a catch up and wow you have been busy. The station and Marshalling yard looks great. I really love the entrance to the fiddleyard too the station idea will work really well. One problem that I can see though. And I have had the same problem. I think you will need more sidings in your fiddleyard. lol Seriously though this ones a cracker. Cheers Peter. Morning Guys, well George, as Peter has said, the Fiddle Yard may need to be bigger, one thing that has come to light is the lack of Yard room on the Scenic section. Although I have 6 Sidings, there only short so the amount of Stock capacity is quite limited. This however may turn into an advantage later on, as I will need to move Stock in and out more. Here's a few pics from this morning, as the Camera had a flat battery yesterday, hence no pics yesterday. More pics later. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Alister_G Posted January 30, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 30, 2017 Great photos mate, love the parcels stock. Banger Blue is very, very tempting... Al. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Anotheran Posted January 30, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 30, 2017 I like the look of all that track Andy! If you're concerned about the lack of length in the sidings you could consider swapping the entry to the siding and the shunter storage road around. That way your 08 could be stored between the main line and the entrance to the sidings which from the photos could give you maybe 20-30 cm extra on each one which would be enough for another couple of wagons. Only thing is you'd need to do it without spoiling all those wonderful curves that you have (or rather that your track layout has) because they look great! Kind regards, Neil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted January 30, 2017 Author Share Posted January 30, 2017 I like the look of all that track Andy! If you're concerned about the lack of length in the sidings you could consider swapping the entry to the siding and the shunter storage road around. That way your 08 could be stored between the main line and the entrance to the sidings which from the photos could give you maybe 20-30 cm extra on each one which would be enough for another couple of wagons. Only thing is you'd need to do it without spoiling all those wonderful curves that you have (or rather that your track layout has) because they look great! Kind regards, Neil Food for thought Neil, I will play with it for a few weeks and then decide what to do, if anything. The Stabling Point is also the Programing Track, but I can always do that in one of the Sidings if needs be. Thanks for the idea mate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted January 30, 2017 Author Share Posted January 30, 2017 Great photos mate, love the parcels stock. Banger Blue is very, very tempting... Al. Hi Al, I'm really enjoying the Banger Blue so some other stuff that was used on Pencarne may eventually go to build up funds for other things. There will be a New Addition to the Family in a few days. Class 50, Ajax. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Alister_G Posted January 30, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 30, 2017 Class 50 in Large Logo... drooooool... Al Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donington Road Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 Food for thought Neil, I will play with it for a few weeks and then decide what to do, if anything. The Stabling Point is also the Programing Track, but I can always do that in one of the Sidings if needs be. Thanks for the idea mate. Everyone likes the curves Andy Can you post a photo looking from the 08 stabling point back to the parcels office please Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted January 30, 2017 Author Share Posted January 30, 2017 Everyone likes the curves Andy Can you post a photo looking from the 08 stabling point back to the parcels office please Will do Mick, I will do a fresh one later, but are a few from last week as a guide. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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