RMweb Premium njee20 Posted February 23, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 23, 2017 Ooo, Merc have got it right, well moreso than the others! 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 81C Posted February 23, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 23, 2017 My daughters friend work at McLaren making the wings for the F1 cars he's not giving anything away at the moment but he said it could be an interesting season now the "Little Idiot" has lost control and their might be some odd interpretations of the new rule which could spice things up. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 57xx Posted February 23, 2017 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted February 23, 2017 Ooo, Merc have got it right, well moreso than the others! It's certainly the best of the bunch so far. I was so disappointed when I saw the first few cars with those ugly shark fins making a reappearance. They make the low rear wing look even worse than they do without them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium njee20 Posted February 23, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 23, 2017 The Merc is very fussy up close, but the shape looks great IMO. Impressively 'tight' around the back. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Roy Langridge Posted February 23, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 23, 2017 The Merc is very fussy up close, but the shape looks great IMO. Impressively 'tight' around the back. Hopefully not overly so. That was one of the problems for McLaren where the tight rear provided insufficient cooling. Roy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Roy Langridge Posted February 24, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 24, 2017 McLaren launched in orange and black - looking good apart from yet another shark fin. Interestingly, Ferrari have launched theirs with a shark fin also. Mercedes seemingly having gone it alone without so at this year. I wonder if they have made an error? Roy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Roy Langridge Posted February 24, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 24, 2017 Maybe they didn't Just 5 more weeks and we'll know who stands where on the grid I know it is possible that they didn't, however, Formula 1 history has shown that when something different is added somebody has spotted an opportunity. As all the teams have added the shark-fin bar Mercedes (ok, Williams is less substantial), it suggests that the majority believe that there is a benefit in it. I think it will be interesting to see the Red Bull launch next week on Sunday and whether Adrian Newey believes it is the way to go. Only two car launches to go... Roy 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiffy2 Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 Mercedes have said that the launch car is not the car that will go to testing, and they they are keeping their options open on adding a fin. The T wing at the rear, as seen yesterday afternoon, serves a similar purpose, and will be evaluated. I would expect both to be seen in testing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiffy2 Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 Interestingly, since the departure of Ron, McLaren's backers have increased the budget available to the team. Given all of the mood music around the Return to Orange this is indicating pretty strongly where the team thinks the responsibility for poor performance lay. http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/128241/mclaren-has-bigger-budget-for-2017 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Radford Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 Like the Merc, not sure about the McHonda - front wing looks too "fussy", which I suppose is pushing it a bit! Torro Rosso have already had problems with the 95% changed Renault engine so Mr Newey might have to pedal harder! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiffy2 Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 The Williams looks like a delivery van. Awful treatment of the hideous fin. http://www.pitpass.com/58337/Williams-reveals-the-FW40 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium OnTheBranchline Posted February 25, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 25, 2017 (edited) Edit Edited February 26, 2017 by OnTheBranchline Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiffy2 Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 In traditional McLaren colours, as opposed to the national racing colours for the Netherlands. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 57xx Posted February 25, 2017 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted February 25, 2017 The Williams looks like a delivery van. Awful treatment of the hideous fin. http://www.pitpass.com/58337/Williams-reveals-the-FW40 That looks grim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiffy2 Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 Actually, there are two versions in the official photos. One is the breadvan and the others show a much smaller fin. Probably they will try both in testing. I'm not clear on the alleged aerodynamic advantages, other than that it somehow tames the airflow onto the rear wing. Presumably there's a compromise between the Size 0 faring over the engine and gearbox (curvy) and turbulence in front of the wing, and the fin somehow reduces that. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Sidecar Racer Posted February 25, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 25, 2017 It's possible that either engine cover could be used depending on circuit or weather , if there is a lot of side wind I think the big fin could get changed to the smaller one for better stability , much like rear wings were changed for different tracks in the past for reduced drag . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium OnTheBranchline Posted February 26, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 26, 2017 (edited) Spyker/Arrows have made a comeback! Oh wait, it's the new McLaren. Edited February 26, 2017 by OnTheBranchline 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiffy2 Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 As I posted earlier, in response to a post that you later deleted, these are the 'traditional' McLaren colours, from the late 60s and 70s as seen on F1 and CanAm cars. Spyker ran in orange livery because they were Dutch. They had originally been the Jordan team, and were bought out by Veejay Mallya and became Force India. 1.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 Well after one of the most exciting and fasinating winters in a long time, Testing will finally get underway later, it should be interesting. The New Hass looks rather nice. http://www.espn.co.uk/f1/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium njee20 Posted February 27, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 27, 2017 As I posted earlier, in response to a post that you later deleted, these are the 'traditional' McLaren colours, from the late 60s and 70s as seen on F1 and CanAm cars. Spyker ran in orange livery because they were Dutch. They had originally been the Jordan team, and were bought out by Veejay Mallya and became Force India. 1.jpg The annoying thing is that this is the wrong orange, its more red, with a metallic tint. As the reason to use orange is to hark back to the good ol' days why not use the right shade!? The Toro Rosso is hands down the best looking car: http://e1.365dm.com/17/02/16-9/20/skysports-toro-rosso_3898604.jpg?20170226171653 Extra presentation points for using the white lettered tyres, the yellow and the purple will clash horribly! I see after 30 minutes testing they've already gone quicker than in the whole of day 1 last season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
edcayton Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 The fins make a good advertising hoarding in the joke of a "sport" that F1 has become. I'm actually looking forward to it being on pay-extra telly only so I don't feel compelled to waste my Sunday afternoons (or whenever) watching. Mr Grumpy 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 The annoying thing is that this is the wrong orange, its more red, with a metallic tint. As the reason to use orange is to hark back to the good ol' days why not use the right shade!? The Toro Rosso is hands down the best looking car: Extra presentation points for using the white lettered tyres, the yellow and the purple will clash horribly! I see after 30 minutes testing they've already gone quicker than in the whole of day 1 last season. Looking at the Pics of the Torro Rosso, it only seems to say Red Bull on it everywhere, that does seem strange to me. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/39097052 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted February 27, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 27, 2017 Looking at the Pics of the Torro Rosso, it only seems to say Red Bull on it everywhere, that does seem strange to me. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/39097052 Wasn't that always the case? A kind of Red Bull Junior team? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 Yeah yoir right Ian, but normally it said TR and not RB on the side pods etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted February 27, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 27, 2017 Wasn't that always the case? A kind of Red Bull Junior team? Maybe they've decided to translate the name to English in case UK F1 fans didn't understand what it was? (toro rosso = red bull) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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