Jeff P's photos from the 60's.

[JeffP]

Another three from 1962 at Doncaster today.

 

 

Britannia pacific 70037, "Hereward the Wake", is at Doncaster's platform 4 with another cross country train.

 

Allocated to 31B March shed at this date, she was new to Stratford at the end of december 1952, and withdrawn from 12A Carlisle Kingmoor on Bonfire Night 1966, aged only 13 years 10.5 months.

She was cut up at J McWilliams of Shettlestone, 1st February 1968.

 

Young spotters can be seen touching the nameplate on the second picture, with one standing on the loco to do so.

One wonders if the young lad who spoiled the front end pic received a slap or two?

[ikks]

Another three from 1962 at Doncaster today.

 

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Britannia pacific 70037, "Hereward the Wake", is at Doncaster's platform 4 with another cross country train.

 

Allocated to 31B March shed at this date, she was new to Stratford at the end of december 1952, and withdrawn from 12A Carlisle Kingmoor on Bonfire Night 1966, aged only 13 years 10.5 months.

She was cut up at J McWilliams of Shettlestone, 1st February 1968.

 

Young spotters can be seen touching the nameplate on the second picture, with one standing on the loco to do so.

One wonders if the young lad who spoiled the front end pic received a slap or two?

Brilliant Jeff simply brilliant!!

 

mike

[The Pilotman]

One wonders if the young lad who spoiled the front end pic received a slap or two?

Well, let's hope so. Could this be the earliest recorded instance of the "photobomb"?

[JeffP]

Appleby Frodingham steelworks coke ovens, 1962, and one of the company's steam loco's is hard at work moving 16T mineral wagons about. In the first picture, the strange shaped wooden buildings are the quenching sheds. The coke car moves underneath with it's load of red hot coke and the load is drenched with water from high pressure nozzles.

The smell has to be endured to be believed...anyone who hasn't smelled a coking plant running full bore will not understand.

 

 

[ikks]

Appleby Frodingham steelworks coke ovens, 1962, and one of the company's steam loco's is hard at work moving 16T mineral wagons about. In the first picture, the strange shaped wooden buildings are the quenching sheds. The coke car moves underneath with it's load of red hot coke and the load is drenched with water from high pressure nozzles.

The smell has to be endured to be believed...anyone who hasn't smelled a coking plant running full bore will not understand.

 

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Once again,,,,,,,,,,brilliant!!

 

Rgds,,,,,,,Mike

[eastwestdivide]

Those smells - anything like coking plants (the one by the M1 near Chesterfield), burning coal, or creosote fences I kind of like, and they don't cause me any problems, but other stuff like petrol, paint solvents etc give me a thick head in minutes.

[JeffP]

 

Near to Retford in 1962, and A4 60019, "Bittern", is in charge of a down excursion, as she appears to be carrying a small plaque with RCTS above her number plate. It would appear to be a damp and cold day.

 

60019 was built in 1937 and allocated to 52A Gateshead at this point in her life. She is in quite clean condition for a Gateshead loco.

[AberdeenBill]

Brilliant Jeff simply brilliant!!

 

mike

 

Indeed!   Was 'touching the nameplate' a known thing for 'spotters to do to get a 'bonus' when underlining the number in their ABC??

 

Bill

[The Stationmaster]

Indeed!   Was 'touching the nameplate' a known thing for 'spotters to do to get a 'bonus' when underlining the number in their ABC??

 

Bill

 

Not round our way!  However cabbing was definitely worth that little letter 'c' next to the underlined number

[keefer]

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Near to Retford in 1962, and A4 60019, "Bittern", is in charge of a down excursion, as she appears to be carrying a small plaque with RCTS above her number plate. It would appear to be a damp and cold day.

 

60019 was built in 1937 and allocated to 52A Gateshead at this point in her life. She is in quite clean condition for a Gateshead loco.

What an amazing picture, reminds of the stylised trains on the art deco LNER posters

[LMS2968]

What an amazing picture, reminds of the stylised trains on the art deco LNER posters

I certainly wish I'd taken it! A real sense of movement and speed.

[JeffP]

One more from Doncaster 1962.

 

 

English Electric Type 4, later class 40, roars through on the up main, while the track gang stands clear. The loco is one of the early builds with no headcode boxes and still has the nose-end ladders.

 

I've tried to add two more of young spotters on the platform, but for the first time, the site software has turned them on their sides. Any ideas anyone?

 

 

 

 

[60021 Pen-y-Ghent]

I've tried to add two more of young spotters on the platform, but for the first time, the site software has turned them on their sides. Any ideas anyone?

What, the photos or the spotters?

[Phil Bullock]

What, the photos or the spotters?

 

Hmm...see post #105 above....

 

Phil

[JeffP]

LOL, yes, the photos. They are stored on my computer as portrait, but the software had added them landscape?

 

Anyway, on to today. And we are on the East Coast Mainline, near Retford again, 1962.

 

 

A4 60029, "Woodcock" is on an up express. This was one of my favourite locos, after I cabbed it and was allowed to pass through the corridor tender at carr loco, around 1961, on a trip with my dad's school.

 

Built in july 1937, Woodcock spent most of her life as a Top Shed loco. When that shed closed she went to New England, but was withdrawn from there during October of 1963, one of the early withdrawals.

She was cut up at the Plant in January of 1964.

 

 

At the same spot, the up express is this time hauled by A4 60033, "Seagull". This loco was rated as a "good'un" by drivers, and was chosen as one of the locos to take part in the 1948 loco exchanges.

 

Built in june 1938, she also spent most of her life as a King's Cross loco, and was another early withdrawal, at the end of December 1962. Three weeks later, she was no more, Doncaster works again responsible.

[jonny777]

I often wonder how the works staff felt as they cut up a Gresley pacific...

[JeffP]

I often wonder how the works staff felt as they cut up a Gresley pacific...

Same as any loco, I'd think, to most of them it was just a job.

[ikks]

Same as any loco, I'd think, to most of them it was just a job.

Sometimes you wonder..............

 

Mike

[jonny777]

Cutting up an A4 must have brought a tear to the eye of some of the old boys, who had been there to see them roll out of the shops brand new.

[JeffP]

I've posted something similar to this before, but the above sentiments are an opportunity to air it again.

 

As a little boy, I'd loved trains from an early age, my earliest recollections are of my grandpa accompanying me on a train from Cleethorpes to grimsby town, aged around three, and watching trains at the level crossing on the GNR line through Waltham, when we went to pick up a parcel at waltham station, aged about four.

 

Aged seven saw my dad move to scunthorpe, and become deputy of a large secondary modern school....whose music master was also railway mad and organised twice yearly visits, by train, to the Plant and running sheds at Doncaster.

 

I was lucky enough to accompany my dad with the trip, and loved the shed, with the smells and the steam, the green locos I'd never seen before, and the "danger" of being in such close proximity, at ground level, to what appeared to be a living, breathing machine.

 

But it was the Plant that had my youthful emotions running riot. At aged ten, I remember going round one summer, around 1962, and walking along the scraplines with some of the older boys. All was silent, except for the faint hum of the ventilators over on the crimpsall, the wind through the locos standing cold and forlorn and a skylark singing overhead.

 

I can still remember I felt like crying, but didn't know why, except that I thought I was witnessing the passing of something, the like of which I'd never see again. That old friends were going out of my life for ever. Thinking back still makes me feel sad more than fifty years later.

 

 

My father could not understand my emotions at the time, and a ten year old wasn't the best person to try and explain them to the grizzled old guide taking us round. I remember him saying, "These is finished, young'un, diesels is the way forrard now". And hating knowing he was right.

[JeffP]

Still at the same point on the ECML, 1962. I'm reliably told that it's opposite eaton Wood occupational crossing. close to Gamston bank.

 

 

Single chimneyed V2 60814 on an up freight working.

 

Built in 1937, 60814 survived until 1963 when she was scrapped at the Plant, during April of that year, after being withdrawn from Grantham.

 

 

Deltic D9018 "Ballymoss" thunders south on an up express.

 

A Finsbury Park loco all her life, she lasted almost twenty years, before following 60814 and many others on her last visit to the Plant, in January 1982.

[keefer]

Love the Deltic pic, just shows that not every loco you run has to be weathered to within an inch of its life!

[JeffP]

 

I'm unsure where this is, but it's 70037 "Hereward the wake" again, this time carrying a 40B shed plate, which places the photo after the end of September 1961, and throws doubt on the 1962 labels attached to a few above..they may all be earlier 1961.

 

Anyway, 70037 is carrying express lamps, so may be on the Cleethorpes-King's Cross services they went to Immingham for. She also looks to have the Immingham embellishments of silver smokebox hinges and centre dart.

 

Britannias spent just over two years at Immingham, before being transferred away during December of 1963.

[JeffP]

 

Today we are at Grantham, Barkston, just north of Grantham,  I believe, Thanks to Dave F, and looking at the new order, but still either 1961, or 1962.

Here is BRCW Type 3, later class 33, D6571, on what looks like the Cliffe Uddingston cement tanks.

 

D6571 was new to service in mid October 1961, which helps to date the photo, more accurately. It was allocated to 73C Hither Green shed, so quite what it's doing here isn't clear.

It was withdrawn from the same shed in January 1974, 1995, thirty three years old, as 33053, and condemned.

 

 

This looks like a loaded ore train, with d1536, a Brush Type 4, later class 47, in charge, probably on it's way to the blast furnaces at Scunthorpe, from the High Dyke area. The headcode isn't much help, however.

The loco was new to 41A Sheffield darnall in August 1963...which neatly puts the ball back in my court regarding dating the photo, the negatives were definitely labelled as 1962. Ho hum.

 

D1536 was built by Brush at Loughbrough, spending all it's life on the East Coast, before being withdrawn from gateshead depot as 47428, in February 1974, aged twenty five and a half.

it was cut up at Vic Berry, Leicester, during August of 1990, some sixteen years after withdrawal!

[brushman47544]

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Today we are at Grantham, I believe, and looking at the new order, but still either 1961, or 1962.

Here is BRCW Type 3, later class 33, D6571, on what looks like the Cliffe Uddingston cement tanks.

 

D6571 was new to service in mid October 1961, which helps to date the photo, more accurately. It was allocated to 73C Hither Green shed, so quite what it's doing here isn't clear.

It was withdrawn from the same shed in January 1974, thirty three years old, as 33053, and condemned.

 

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This looks like a loaded ore train, with d1536, a Brush Type 4, later class 47, in charge, probably on it's way to the blast furnaces at Scunthorpe, from the High Dyke area. The headcode isn't much help, however.

The loco was new to 41A Sheffield darnall in August 1963...which neatly puts the ball back in my court regarding dating the photo, the negatives were definitely labelled as 1962. Ho hum.

 

D1536 was built by Brush at Loughbrough, spending all it's life on the East Coast, before being withdrawn from gateshead depot as 47428, in February 1974, aged twenty five and a half.

it was cut up at Vic Berry, Leicester, during August of 1990, some sixteen years after withdrawal!

 

Very odd because the lower line of clouds look similar in both photos and the pile of rubbish and the scrawp in the middle of the track to the left are identical. So without any other information I would have said taken a short time apart. Could the photo of D6571 be in 1963 as well?

 

EDIT: BTW, D6571/33053 is preserved.