RMweb Gold sjrixon Posted September 12, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 12, 2017 Yes, Mogo.. The pannier one is fine. Now I just need to figure out how you weathered it that well! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KNP Posted September 12, 2017 Author Share Posted September 12, 2017 Yes, Mogo.. The pannier one is fine. Now I just need to figure out how you weathered it that well! Thanks for the video of my chat with Andy Y. Once my granddaughter has been collected (child minding today) I'll take some pictures of these non-scenery items!!!!! The weathering is a mixture of weak washes (normally Lifecolor roof dirt and dirty black) then over brushed with a lot of dry brush work using Vallejo colours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold sjrixon Posted September 12, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 12, 2017 Thanks.. I don't have your eye for it, but I hope to start getting close with this kind of thing. Really lifts the whole layout, some of my stock make it look very 'train set'. Good luck with the little one. I enjoyed her take on how the trains should run. My daughter has similar ideas 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KNP Posted September 12, 2017 Author Share Posted September 12, 2017 Thanks.. I don't have your eye for it, but I hope to start getting close with this kind of thing. Really lifts the whole layout, some of my stock make it look very 'train set'. Good luck with the little one. I enjoyed her take on how the trains should run. My daughter has similar ideas Just realised I forgot to mention powders as well, I use the Humbrol ones..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Pannier Tank Posted September 13, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 13, 2017 Thanks for the video of my chat with Andy Y. Enjoyed watching the Video, great stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KNP Posted September 13, 2017 Author Share Posted September 13, 2017 (edited) Replacement GWR shirt button motif now looks better and has sorted the funny sheen that showed up in pictures giving a glossy blob look. Still not sure what happened, my guess is without thinking I had picked the loco up and ended up touching them whilst they were still damp!!! I must say I do prefer them to the G W R that it replaced. Now to sort out how to added the bulk timber extension that was added to the shorter frames on the first batch of these loco's. I want to keep the rivet detail, my original plan was to carefully cut this area out with the rivet detail out and move it forward but then I discovered the frame was cast metal - !!! idea shelved..... I have some rivet transfers that I will experiment with on a plastic infill piece.. Edited March 9 by KNP 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Great Bear Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 I must say I do prefer them to the G W R that it replaced. Have to say I tend to agree and that's as someone with a post war layout. Whilst writing, I was particularly truck by the shot looking down the terminus, do like the corrugated iron goods shed. All the best Jon 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted September 13, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 13, 2017 1025.jpg I must say I do prefer them to the G W R that it replaced. I disagree. They [shirtbuttons] look fine on rolling stock but insignificant on locos imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clearwater Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 I disagree. They [shirtbuttons] look fine on rolling stock but insignificant on locos imo. I'd agree on tenders the shirtbutton looks small but like it on coaches and tank engines! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Johnster Posted September 13, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 13, 2017 I'm not fussed on the shirtbutton, although it's fine on shirtbuttons. It probably looked very modern when it was introduced, but Robin is right; they are too small on locos and almost disappear if the loco is dirty. I am equally ambivalent about the G W R or G crest W, though for some reason rather like it in conjunction with wartime austerity black. I model the late 40s/early 50s changeover period, so am able to avoid shirtbuttons, but I have a large prairie in unlined green G W R, heavily weathered, and a 2721 in austerity black with the small 'Grotesque' sans serif lettering applied 1942-45 by Caerphilly Works. But I am on the lookout for a suitable prototype for the early 1948 unlined green with 'BRITISH RAILWAYS' in GW 'Egyptian Serif' 1920s style, a very attractive livery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 Hi Kevin, I'm still waiting to see the Video of you and Andy Y and also the pics and write up, I must pick up my copy soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KNP Posted September 13, 2017 Author Share Posted September 13, 2017 (edited) Hi Kevin, I'm still waiting to see the Video of you and Andy Y and also the pics and write up, I must pick up my copy soon. I, like you, have not seen the finished article in the magazine at the moment, as nothing has been delivered by the postman........... I believe the video is only with the digital version! Sent you a PM. Edited September 13, 2017 by KNP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Prism Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 But I am on the lookout for a suitable prototype for the early 1948 unlined green with 'BRITISH RAILWAYS' in GW 'Egyptian Serif' 1920s style, a very attractive livery. There is a list of examples on http://www.gwr.org.uk/liveriesloco1948.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Johnster Posted September 13, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 13, 2017 (edited) Thank you madam. in addition, there is a photograph in John Lewis' 'Great Western Auto Trailers', page 161, of 1421 at Cowbridge in unlined black with 'BRITISH RAILWAYS' in sans serif, later 1948 style. The photo is undated, but the auto trailer that is it's subject, diagram A7 no.108, is stated to be in 1948 brown and cream livery with 1949 style numbers. Neither loco nor trailer are in clean ex-works state and I would guess the photo to be late 1949 or 1950. I intend to include this variant of livery on 9681, when I can source a Bachmann 8750; this loco was delivered new to Tondu shed in May 1949 in what I assume to be this livery, but may be wrong if it came out with the unicycling lion introduced that month; if so it would have been the first 8750 to do so from new. Until I can be certain, Rule 1 will apply. If it proves to have been outshopped with a unicycling lion, I will repaint it as 9674, new to Tondu in March 1948 with what must have been unlined black Egyptian Serif BRITISH RAILWAYS, partly solving my earlier problem, and replace it with 1421, a Llantrisant engine which can be borrowed by Tondu under the authority of Rule 1. 9681 is of course still in existence at the DFR, and it may be worth my while contacting them to see if they have any definitive information, such as having uncovered lettering or insignia during a repaint... The large prairie is to be renumbered as 4145, delivered new to Tondu in, presumably, unlined green G W R livery in 1946. The 2721, 2761, is in fact my only proper Tondu loco for the time being until my re-numberplating program gets under way, and I have cheated with small G W R coach lettering from a sheet of HMRS transfers for now; these are not the correct 'Grotesque' lettering and I need to find out more about the actual colour, dimensions, and spacing of this, though I have a photo to work from for the dimensions and spacing. Under a good coat of weathering, 2761 looks the part and I can live with her for now. I am scratching around a bit for an example of wartime black with Egyptian Serif G W R from Tondu. Edited September 13, 2017 by The Johnster 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 57xx Posted September 14, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 14, 2017 "Egyptian Serif" is not a font/typeface, it's a style of typeface (more commonly know as slab serif) where the serif is a block rather than angular or rounded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Johnster Posted September 14, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 14, 2017 "Egyptian Serif" is not a font/typeface, it's a style of typeface (more commonly know as slab serif) where the serif is a block rather than angular or rounded. Which is why I described it as lettering. I am actually not 100% on what a font is in terms of defining it, and a typeface is something I associate with printing, whereas we are discussing painting of lettering on the side of a locomotive here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Prism Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 I have cheated with small G W R coach lettering from a sheet of HMRS transfers for now; these are not the correct 'Grotesque' lettering and I need to find out more about the actual colour, dimensions, and spacing of this, though I have a photo to work from for the dimensions and spacing. The spacing of G W R in 'Grotesque' was the same as it was in Egyptian. There's an example, plus a link to Didcot's 6697 in that style, in http://www.gwr.org.uk/liveriesloco1942.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold NHY 581 Posted September 14, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 14, 2017 Just had my copy of BRM. LM looks tremendous, Kevin. Excellent article. Rob. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KNP Posted September 14, 2017 Author Share Posted September 14, 2017 Just had my copy of BRM. LM looks tremendous, Kevin. Excellent article. Rob. Many thanks. My copy arrived today and I must say I thought the format and presentation within the magazine was excellent. Though I had a draft copy a while ago you can't beat looking at it 'for real'. Andy Y's pictures looked particularly good especially when considering how large they had been blown up to! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post KNP Posted September 14, 2017 Author Popular Post Share Posted September 14, 2017 (edited) A few posts ago I mentioned that the autocoach was missing some white metal parts that had been lost/misplaced over the years. After contacting Dart Castings they sent me a complete set of them, glad they did as I would have missed one if I had tried to list what I needed. So earlier this week they duly arrived. Over the last few days I have been adding the missing bits. Couldn't do the loco end because of the S&W coupling and in addition I decided to remove the S&W loop from the drivers end as this got in the way of the pipework. I reasoned I was happier fitting all the auto bits for aesthetic purposes rather than keeping the facility of connecting stock.....of limited use anyway. I even noticed there was no hook fitted to the buffer beam, so going through the scrap box found one that came from........no idea but it would do. All now painted and weathered. Well apart from the lamps I think I could say I've actually finished this autocoach after 8 years....... Edited March 9 by KNP 23 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Podhunter Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 (edited) Andy Y's pictures looked particularly good especially when considering how large they had been blown up to! The photos (in British Railways Modelling magazine October 2017) make an excellent impression. To my eyes they are better than the computer screen. The magazine stays where you put it, you can see the entire double-page without making any mouse movements or clicking a keyboard, and concentrate on those fine photos with no pop-up distractions. And you see the track plan without having to search back through hundreds of posts. A round of applause for Little Muddle! Edited September 14, 2017 by Podhunter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KNP Posted September 15, 2017 Author Share Posted September 15, 2017 (edited) Spotted in the local estate agents window.... Least it's close to the local railway services? Edited March 9 by KNP 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 (edited) Oh no, I hope your not doing an Alan / Westener / Kingsbridge and starting to break it up Kevin. Edited September 15, 2017 by Andrew P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Harlequin Posted September 15, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 15, 2017 (edited) It's a "do-er up-er". What was the 1930's equivalent of "Homes under the Hammer"? Phil Edited September 15, 2017 by Harlequin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Johnster Posted September 15, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 15, 2017 Spotted in the local estate agents window.... HOUSE FOR SALE.jpg Least it's close to the local railway services? That's a luxury penthouse compared to some of the fixers you see going for silly money in the West Wales holiday cottage belt. As Meibion Glyndwr used to say, come home to a real fire, buy a cottage in Wales... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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