coachmann Posted April 18, 2018 Author Share Posted April 18, 2018 (edited) Steve Naylors magnificent 4mm replicas of buildings at Shipston-On-Stour station (GWR) arrived today from fellow member Paul Ashton, for which I am eternally grateful. I will do my best to do them justice.... View through the doorway.... Weightbridge. All the buildings are constructed on a plywood base. Each will have to be sunk into the baseboard.... A triangular baseboard will be added to the side of the station some 6' X 2' wide narrowing to a point. Further thoughts on yard access will mean an entrance off the lane that runs over the station, a level crossing by the signalbox proving to be out of the question. Edited April 18, 2018 by coachmann 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted April 18, 2018 Author Share Posted April 18, 2018 Very nice Larry, although I knew it would be. Superb. Derek Thanks Derek. From a guy who really knows how to model the real thing in miniature, I appreciate your comments. The goods yard buildings from Shipston give me a real leap forward and so I am approaching the building of the yard as a layout in its own right. The track layout will be replicated too as far as possible. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Focalplane Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 Now that Larry has ‘spoken’, let me add that several years ago I decided to build a 4mm scale model of Shipston. Steve Naylor, a native of Shipston, contacted me and said that his buildings needed a home. So I drove down to Dorset and collected them and started to build an accurate model that would do justice to his excellent models. Alas my aching fingers let me down and I switched to 7mm scale and have benefitted from the switch in scale. But the buildings remained in my care until I realized that they were not going to be seen by anyone. Steve, Larry and I cooked up this idea to let Larry do his thing at Carrog because I can think of no better way to help both to realize their dreams. Steve builds excellent models with painstaking accuracy. His Shipston prototype is now a housing estate and his models were carefully scaled from the actual buildings before they were demolished. The goods shed is as good as it gets. My modelling efforts are chronicled in a blog on RMWeb, just search for Shipston. The baseboards went to the tip last week but the soldered track remains in storage. I am now 100% committed to 7mm scale and my Penmaenpool layout but like many others I watch Larry’s efforts with admiration for his dedication, speed and inspiration to others. I don’t know if Steve is interested in commissions but his work is highly recommended! Paul 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveNCB7754 Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 Steve Naylors magnificent 4mm replicas of buildings at Shipston-On-Stour station (GWR) arrived today from fellow member Paul Ashton, for which I am eternally grateful. I will do my best to do them justice.... WEB Steve Naylors shed 3.jpg View through the doorway.... WEB Steve Naylors shed 2.jpg Weightbridge. All the buildings are constructed on a plywood base. Each will have to be sunk into the baseboard.... WEB Steve Naylors weightbridge 2.jpg A triangular baseboard will be added to the side of the station some 6' X 2' wide narrowing to a point. Further thoughts on yard access will mean an entrance off the lane that runs over the station, a level crossing by the signalbox proving to be out of the question. Hi Larry, Thanks for your compliments - now I am blushing. As you have no doubt seen, there is also a scale weigh machine inside the weighbridge building and a hole in the base of the building to allow an LED or similar bulb to be inserted from below to illuminate the inside. Incidentally, the weighbridge office is now the only original building still extant on site, as it was used as the yard office of the local coalman (Mr Compton), who eventually had a bungalow built in that corner of the Goods Yard and it remained within the curtilage of that property to the present day. Steve N 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 Larry, your a very lucky man, SUPERB. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted April 18, 2018 Author Share Posted April 18, 2018 Larry, your a very lucky man, SUPERB. Don't I know it. Due to Paul's generosity, I am also the recipient of a Hughes Fowler 'Crab', several wagons, semaphore, electric street lamps and more. I really missed my old 'Crab' and the YouChoos 'Crab' sound, nut now I can go for it again. 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted April 18, 2018 Author Share Posted April 18, 2018 Hi Larry, Thanks for your compliments - now I am blushing. As you have no doubt seen, there is also a scale weigh machine inside the weighbridge building and a hole in the base of the building to allow an LED or similar bulb to be inserted from below to illuminate the inside. Incidentally, the weighbridge office is now the only original building still extant on site, as it was used as the yard office of the local coalman (Mr Compton), who eventually had a bungalow built in that corner of the Goods Yard and it remained within the curtilage of that property to the present day. Steve N Thank you very much Steve. I hadn't realised the weighbridge had an interior. It would be worth illuminating. I see you are interested in NCB workings the same as my good friend and near-neighbor PGH of this forum. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveNCB7754 Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 ... I see you are interested in NCB workings the same as my good friend and near-neighbor PGH of this forum. Yes. His posting of many excellent photographs has been an inspiration along the way. Due to personal circumstances, my own modelling has been put on hold for the moment, but it is great to watch you guys making such great progress with your layouts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveNCB7754 Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 Was it common to have an unpenned area for loading horses? Hi Brassey, My understanding, is that these would be the horses of passengers arriving to take the train (in the early days) to places further afield and so would be led up the ramp and into waiting horse box wagon(s) (perhaps to Dia, N1?) when the time came. This same ramp would also be used to load the passenger's associated horse-drawn vehicle (trap, gig, etc.) if they had one, onto a suitable 'brown vehicle' carriage truck - probably a single-plank open wagon and from the side, as I think the closed versions were end-loaded (but I could be wrong on that point). BTW, the end-loading dock at Shipston (near the entrance to the station yard, at the end of the engine run-round loop) was only added during the First World War for the loading of materials and equipment. Presumably, even after passenger services stopped on the Shipston branch (8 July 1929), those who could afford to do so could still send horses by the remaining goods service, even if they themselves traveled by other means (whilst their grooms traveled with the horse(s) in the vestibule provided in the horse box wagon). HTH Steve N Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted April 18, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 18, 2018 I’m confused, I’ve stupidly missed a few pages and am now completely befuddled! I’m sure it was O gauge and called carrog road a month ago? Are we back to OO gauge again and in carrog Confused of crewe Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LBRJ Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 It may be worth pointing out (though not necessarily at Carrog) an open bank for loading horses and beasts could be turned into "pop-up" pens by the common use of hurdles. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Alder Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 That was how much of the intensive sheep sales in the Far North August frenzy was handled at the likes of Forsinard and Lairg. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brassey Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 Hi Brassey, My understanding, is that these would be the horses of passengers arriving to take the train (in the early days) to places further afield and so would be led up the ramp and into waiting horse box wagon(s) (perhaps to Dia, N1?) when the time came. This same ramp would also be used to load the passenger's associated horse-drawn vehicle (trap, gig, etc.) if they had one, onto a suitable 'brown vehicle' carriage truck - probably a single-plank open wagon and from the side, as I think the closed versions were end-loaded (but I could be wrong on that point). BTW, the end-loading dock at Shipston (near the entrance to the station yard, at the end of the engine run-round loop) was only added during the First World War for the loading of materials and equipment. Presumably, even after passenger services stopped on the Shipston branch (8 July 1929), those who could afford to do so could still send horses by the remaining goods service, even if they themselves traveled by other means (whilst their grooms traveled with the horse(s) in the vestibule provided in the horse box wagon). HTH Steve N Hi Steve What's behind my question is that, on the small station I am building, the relatively large loading dock had no pens at all. I have assumed that it was built exclusively for loading of horses and carriages for the local estate. A recent discussion on the S4Society forum did not come up with any conclusion but I am glad you have helped with the answer. Maybe no cattle on a regular basis at my station. Thanks Peter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Focalplane Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 Although in South Warwickshire, Shipston on Stour is very close to the Cotswolds. The animal traffic included both cattle and sheep. In fact “Shipston” was originally “Sheeps Town”. In this respect the cattle dock now waiting to be placed at Carrog Arms would be appropriate with cattle from the Dee Valley and sheep from the nearby hills. And the horses might be associated with either the wealthier farmers or land owners. Paul 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 Larry, I say, don't get to bogged down with Prototype this time, let prototype guide your hand, but NOT restrict it's movement. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted April 19, 2018 Author Share Posted April 19, 2018 (edited) I’m confused, I’ve stupidly missed a few pages and am now completely befuddled! I’m sure it was O gauge and called carrog road a month ago? Are we back to OO gauge again and in carrog Confused of crewe Confusion Rules, but do not worry. Carrog Road it remains because the new goods yard will be Carrog Road Goods seeing as its entrance will be off the road that passes over the station to Carrog village. Regarding the loading of livestock, it was pretty basic at some stations. For example, at Drws-Y-Nant, sheep were loaded into cattle trucks from the passenger platform. I always let the prototype guide me Andy. For instance, I would normally have used a trailing point and a headshunt in order to gain access to the down yard. However, the GWR was happy for its Down trains to pass over facing points when using the up platform for much of the winter, so I figured it would be fine to use facing points into the Down Goods Yard if I made the down loop bi-directional. Similarly, the GWR allowed the running line to be used as a headshunt under the watchful eye of the signalman, so i have continued to use this facility for the new yard. Last year, I laid a separate headshunt parallel with the embankment and the station lost lost its rural look as a result. So I know it won't work. Edited April 19, 2018 by coachmann 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 LOOK EAR YOUNG LARRY, I'm coming up at the end of the Month, and I NEED TO KNOW WHER I AM. hahhhaha Totally confused of Swad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 Carrog Road,....YES.....I do prefer it Larry. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Great Bear Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 I found time to do a spot of pottering in the trainshed this afternoon. The sound in a GWR 38XX was transferred to one of the latest Grange class locos, both with small Churchward Tenders. The Tenders were simply swapped over and after testing, I re-sprayed the weathered 38XX Tender chassis plain black and the plain black one to weathered condition then swapped bodies. Seemples. The sound never seemed right in the 2-8-0 despite being marketted for the 28XX, but it definitely suits the larger wheeled 4-6-0. Did you find a project to your liking for the 38xx? Just starting trying few locos with DCC sound... All the best Jon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted April 19, 2018 Author Share Posted April 19, 2018 (edited) Did you find a project to your liking for the 38xx? Just starting trying few locos with DCC sound... All the best Jon I have decided to put the YouChoos 'Hall'' sound in the 28XX, as it has a little more oomph. If it is hard-wired, I just might get a Zimo twin speaker in as well to give it more bass. Edited April 19, 2018 by coachmann Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeithHC Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 I get these flights of fancy when sat in the house watching it rain. After all,everybody knows it rains in Wales, except those of us who live here.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSAe3yjTl1k&feature=youtu.be It overwhelmed the sewer system hence the glugging sound emanating from the toilet! Liquid sunshine Keith 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post coachmann Posted April 19, 2018 Author Popular Post Share Posted April 19, 2018 (edited) Liquid sunshine Yup, in the middle of July an' all..... It turned out to be a foretaste of the longest winter we've known since moving here. But today is shirt sleeves, saws and screws weather building the 'Shipston' Yard baseboard.... An Oxford Rail brakevan was used for setting the incline down the yard to enable an element of fly-shunting. Its a compromise because i don't want cattle wagons leaving their post and barging through the goods shed doors. My joinery isn't up the creek.....The shed has sunk slightly over the years.... Edited April 19, 2018 by coachmann 23 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted April 19, 2018 Author Share Posted April 19, 2018 (edited) I usually use SMP track for the goods yards because of its thin sleepers, but what actually arrived could only be described as a boxload of corrugated track. It will not straighten neither. Annoyed doesn't begin to cover it.... Edited April 19, 2018 by coachmann 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Rowsley17D Posted April 19, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 19, 2018 That's terrible, Coach. I hope you'll send it back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brossard Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 Perhaps specially designed for those modelling American short lines. Quite horrid. John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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