Andrew P Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 (edited) I don't know if it's the camera angle, or the new Point, but in the last pic it looks much better, fine in fact Larry. Edited April 26, 2018 by Andrew P Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post PGH Posted April 27, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted April 27, 2018 (edited) The photos of Carrog recently posted by Steve Fay and Steve Naylor are excellent given the circumstances (i.e. weather) and well worth posting on this thread. Edited September 10, 2018 by PGH 21 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 The photos of Carrog recently posted by Steve Fay and Steve Naylor are excellent given the circumstances (i.e. weather) and well worth posting on this thread. However they did leave me feeling a little depressed - we do have the occasional bright sunny day here in North Wales like this - Llangollen 030B.jpg This was back in 2015 and believe it or not we've had a few similar bright sunny days since ! I'll be passing through tomorrow, so I hope it's just as nice and sunny. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted April 27, 2018 Author Share Posted April 27, 2018 Poetry in motion, so thanks for posting PGH. A wonderful machine at a very good gala..........The Great Western was quite simply the best. It was 2009 though Phil. Yup I know, time flies at our age..... 16 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted April 27, 2018 Author Share Posted April 27, 2018 I'll be passing through tomorrow, so I hope it's just as nice and sunny. I hope the weather is kind to you tomorrow Andy cos if it is, it'll be good enough to work on the layout hereabouts. We are due for a trip over the hill to GWR country to pick up a new golf hat. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post PGH Posted April 27, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted April 27, 2018 (edited) Poetry in motion, so thanks for posting PGH. A wonderful machine at a very good gala..........The Great Western was quite simply the best. It was 2009 though Phil. Yup I know, time flies at our age..... Oops - No it was worse than that, it was actually taken in 2005. City of Truro was there again for the Gala in 2009 together with this lot - Edited September 10, 2018 by PGH 25 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted April 28, 2018 Author Share Posted April 28, 2018 (edited) Oops - No it was worse than that, it was actually taken in 2005. City of Truro was there again for the Gala in 2009 together with this lot - Thanks for posting Philip. Smashing photos. It was the sight of Morayshire at Carrog that sent me dashing home to buy a Railroad jobbie and build & paint this. The LR have had some splendid gala's over the years.... Edited April 28, 2018 by coachmann 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Chimer Posted April 28, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 28, 2018 Oops - No it was worse than that, it was actually taken in 2005. City of Truro was there again for the Gala in 2009 together with this lot - Modeller should be shot! Dreadful mix of regions and periods there ....... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveNCB7754 Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 Llangollen 163B.jpg Fancy a bit of narrow gauge at Carrog Road Larry ? (Silly question, I know the answer to that !) Actually, it's a little known fact that there are seams of very poor quality 'Jam Butty' in the hills near Carrog, and some of these seams were drift-mined during the 19th century. Sadly, this was only transported via pack horse back then, but if you pretended that the quality was more akin to that nearer to Knotty Ash, then a small narrow gauge line into Carrog could be justified. [Geology Notes: The Carrog 'Butty' seams were relatively late deposits, laid down in the late Cretinous Period (c50 – 100 Million Years B.K. [ Before Ken]). Friable and coarse-grained, they are unsuitable for use directly as Jam Butty, however, if compressed into briquettes, these have numerous uses such as in the construction field, or for the manufacture of mourning jewelry. The material keeps well for long periods of time and in extremis, can be eaten if soaked in a mug of piping hot tea (usually for around 3 hours). Whilst this characteristic may be an asset, it is no substitute for Kendal Mint Cake, since it has neither the taste, texture or (indeed) the nutritional value of that product.] Apologies, I obviously have too much spare time on my hands this morning (LOL). Steve N 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post coachmann Posted April 28, 2018 Author Popular Post Share Posted April 28, 2018 Family day today (sunny day too) so not much done in the shed. Cutting away the original scenery to make space for the new goods yard revealed it was necessary to build a retaining wall. A dash to Rhuddlan Models for Wills SSMP200 stone sheet sorted that one. It was built to match the shape of Carrog's existing walls... Weathering was slightly less than on the station buildings and road bridge (less pollution). It was plonked down for the photos just before dusk.... 26 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post coachmann Posted April 28, 2018 Author Popular Post Share Posted April 28, 2018 This image shows a place I called Newton in 2015, the start of where I am today. Looking back, the ingredients were there including the GWR, an overbridge and a simple goods yard. Then I allowed myself to be distracted by something more ambitious before returning to the country station theme and Carrog.... 27 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gismorail Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 Like the way this is shaping up Larry all seems to fit together well and very believable ......I'll be expecting to see and the new goods yard in real life next time I go towards the A5 later today if it's like most preserved railways it will soon get filled with rotting rolling stock awaiting restoration 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted April 30, 2018 Author Share Posted April 30, 2018 Like the way this is shaping up Larry all seems to fit together well and very believable ......I'll be expecting to see and the new goods yard in real life next time I go towards the A5 later today Thanks. Maybe it was just as cold when I was young, but when yer working you don't notice the weather! Anyway, my days of working outdoors in a cold shed are definitely in the past, so Carrog Road Goods will not proceed any further for the moment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post coachmann Posted April 30, 2018 Author Popular Post Share Posted April 30, 2018 (edited) Sun came out so I dashed home to lay the goods yard... I could really have done with more room here at the back of the goods shed but. Entrance to the yard is in the foreground. Bufferstops were plonked on the rails for the photos... General view looking East. Edited May 3, 2018 by coachmann 35 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post coachmann Posted April 30, 2018 Author Popular Post Share Posted April 30, 2018 I promised to watch a Doris Day - Rock Hudson movie with Mrs. Coach. Anyway slipping away to stick pins in my eyes was a neat get-out, so here are two images I didn't get chance to post earlier..... Quite a bit of weathering is required before the yard looks lived in.... 30 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack P Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 Looks excellent! Sorry if I've missed it, the set of points leading to the goods shed, are they the new Peco ones or kitbuilt? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted May 1, 2018 Author Share Posted May 1, 2018 (edited) Looks excellent! Sorry if I've missed it, the set of points leading to the goods shed, are they the new Peco ones or kitbuilt? All the points bar one are new Peco bullhead, bent to suit the flow of the track. TRACK LAYING RECAP:- During the initial planning, I use yard lengths of old Peco Streamline to plot out the various sidings etc. Then I **curve some points to the same radius and apply Loctite to almost all the chairs while the point it pinned down to a length of timber. After all the track has been cut to length and joined together with the usual rail joiners, I use Peco track pins to ensure plain track maintains a particular curve before spraying the lot with Railmatch 'Sleeper Grime' (switch blades are masked off beforehand of course). When the track is thoroughly dry, it maintains it's curve because the paint had penetrated the chairs. It is then lifted and split into convenient sections for gluing and ballasting afterwards. The spray also leaves an impression on the baseboard, which helps with locating the track after the PVA glue has been applied. ** Prior to curving a point, some of the plastic webbing is removed. PS: In case anyone is unaware, these bullhead points carry current to tracks both sides of the frog so that all tracks are 'live' no matter which way the point is set. This suits me fine because it means my sound-fitted locos are always simmering. When I used to use Electrofrog points, I had to isolate sidings from the frog and then put in extra track feeds if I wanted sidings to be continuously 'live'. Without these feeds, locos would go quiet when the point was switched against the track they were sat on. Oh dear, I hope I am not accused of teaching gran to suck eggs here.... Edited May 1, 2018 by coachmann 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Focalplane Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 (edited) I do find the Peco instructions a bit confusing, possibly because they expect you to use their point motors and microswitches, etc. Last evening I struggled to understand the wiring of their Gauge O double slip and then realized that they had omitted the all important track feeds on the diagram. Paul Edited May 1, 2018 by Focalplane Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted May 1, 2018 Author Share Posted May 1, 2018 I do find the Peco instructions a bit confusing, possibly because they expect you to use their point motors and microswitches, etc. Last evening I struggled to understand the wiring of their Gauge O double slip and then realized that they had omitted the all important track feeds on the diagram. I admit to taking the easy route and using Insulfrog double slips in '00' while taking a lot of trouble to get them laid perfectly flat. When I went DCC, the capacitors ensured a no-stall situation. I routinely avoid wiring as far as is possible and have stopped using point motors and changeover switches. The spaghetti I removed before relaying the points at Carrog Road ensured I never took that road again! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm27 Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 All the points bar one are new Peco bullhead, bent to suit the flow of the track. TRACK LAYING RECAP:- During the initial planning, I use yard lengths of old Peco Streamline to plot out the various sidings etc. Then I **curve some points to the same radius and apply Loctite to almost all the chairs while the point it pinned down to a length of timber. After all the track has been cut to length and joined together with the usual rail joiners, I use Peco track pins to ensure plain track maintains a particular curve before spraying the lot with Railmatch 'Sleeper Grime' (switch blades are masked off beforehand of course). When the track is thoroughly dry, it maintains it's curve because the paint had penetrated the chairs. It is then lifted and split into convenient sections for gluing and ballasting afterwards. The spray also leaves an impression on the baseboard, which helps with locating the track after the PVA glue has been applied. ** Prior to curving a point, some of the plastic webbing is removed. PS: In case anyone is unaware, these bullhead points carry current to tracks both sides of the frog so that all tracks are 'live' no matter which way the point is set. This suits me fine because it means my sound-fitted locos are always simmering. When I used to use Electrofrog points, I had to isolate sidings from the frog and then put in extra track feeds if I wanted sidings to be continuously 'live'. Without these feeds, locos would go quiet when the point was switched against the track they were sat on. Oh dear, I hope I am not accused of teaching gran to suck eggs here.... Hi again, Great to see your progress on the new goods yard, the buildings work really well and the arrangement is visually well balanced. Not sure if this is of any interest, but I remember from a previous post that you were proposing wire in tube operation. I have done something similar on the current layout, in areas where access is limited underneath. In order to switch the polarity of the crossing vee, without any extra switches, I have used a miniature DPDT switch (Maplins) drilled to take the actuating wire to the tie bar. Hopefully the photos show the arrangement. Regards Malcolm 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Focalplane Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 My first soldered track layout used wire in tube switches and I liked the result. I just happen to have some Tortoises so wiring is the name of my game at the moment. I may use a manual system in the fiddle yards though. The new goods yard plan makes good sense, Shipston had lots of room for vehicular access though photos rarely show any vehicles in the yard! Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnd Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 I feel that changes are afoot in the yard as it does not feel natural the way it is at the moment. Please prove me wrong by not altering the layout of but I feel changes are afoot ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted May 1, 2018 Author Share Posted May 1, 2018 I feel that changes are afoot in the yard as it does not feel natural the way it is at the moment. Please prove me wrong by not altering the layout of but I feel changes are afoot ! You might be right. I was reducing the number of photos in my post and deleted it by accident...Oh dear... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Stubby47 Posted May 1, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 1, 2018 I'd be tempted to lift the pens and move them back, allowing the swerving siding to be straight, up to the end of the goods shed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 I feel that changes are afoot in the yard as it does not feel natural the way it is at the moment. Please prove me wrong by not altering the layout of but I feel changes are afoot ! Now I could be Nostradamus and pretend that I can foresee the future. No spoilers from me though. Jason Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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