steveb860 Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 Thanks for the update Andrew. Makes a change from the usual "Does anybody know when..." question that people normally post without enquiring for themselves 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
black and decker boy Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 Exciting times ahead. Always loved these units chugging into Reading station. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 Good to hear some news about this, had been rather quiet for a while. Did they say which schemes it would be? Still hoping for my pre-order NSE one! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium brushman47544 Posted February 2, 2012 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 2, 2012 I've dug out the previous thread so hopefully all the new info about the Kernow Thumpers will end up in one place... The latest news on the Kernow website http://www.kernowmodelrailcentre.com/page/61/Class_205_Thumper_Unit is that the BR Blue ones have been deferred and the first batch does now include the NSE one (K2002), along with the two all over green (with and without orange V on the front of the DMBS (K2003/DS and K2007/DS). It seems there will only be one roof profile in the initial batch (with cable conduits) and so later numbered units have wait for a second batch. That's unfortunate for me as I'm interested in one or both of Green with SYP and BR Blue. In terms of sales, I do hope Kernow has chosen the right way to go for the first batch... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mod4 Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 Recently started thread now merged with existing long standing topic. A reminder to all to check for a previous thread and or use the search function please. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Gwiwer Posted February 2, 2012 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 2, 2012 The wait for the Thumper units has been uncommonly long but credit where due to Kernow for keeping us abreast of the news as and when there is some. Ironically if the manufacture had stayed with Dapol we would still likely not have the units on the horizon yet as they would probably still be in the queue with the JIAs, Tigers, 600s and (now imminent) weathered class 22s. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kintbury jon Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 Only issue with the NSE version is that I can't think of any 205's that were only two coaches. Would be interested knowing when the centre car is due. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesB 34067 Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 (edited) Does anyone know if the NSE one K2001 will include a Headlight on the front ?? Cheers James Edited February 2, 2012 by JamesB 34067 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stug Posted March 3, 2012 Share Posted March 3, 2012 Thought a little update of sorts would be of interest!. Latest (Spring 2012) Bahmann Collectors Club magazine states the Thumper has "progressed to the tool room". At least it is still progressing, albeit as slowly as it feels!.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Electrostar Posted June 2, 2012 Share Posted June 2, 2012 Latest Collectors' Club update: The Class 205 Thumper EP sample has now been approved and has entered the artwork stage and final sampling. It's accompanied by a photo of a grey mock up which I must say looks splendid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRman Posted June 2, 2012 Share Posted June 2, 2012 Oh goody! Just what my poor, tortured wallet needs! I have one of the sound-fitted ones pre-ordered ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyddrail Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 Saw the sample at Showcase, there are a few small issues but this is not the finished model, much detail included. This was the first batch with roof mounted lighting conduits. Cheers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve1023 Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 Saw the sample at Showcase, there are a few small issues but this is not the finished model, much detail included. This was the first batch with roof mounted lighting conduits. Cheers. Hi Paul. Hope you don't mind but what where the small issues on the sample you saw? Steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davros909 Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 looking forward to this model cant see why in the mean time another cep livery cannot appear even another model zone exclusive will do Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
59205 Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 Can't wait for this one! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyddrail Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 Steve, I saw nothing on my first viewing, but someone else pointed me to several. The M/C had a trailer bogie at the non cab end instead of the motor bogie (both motor heavy duty type on DEMUs), the M/C cab doors were not inward opening, some questions about the interiors corridoor layout etc which I have not checked, is all I can remember. But this is still at the stage of corrections. Looks very nice. Cheers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bartb Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 There is a update on Kernow's news letter that I recieved today John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy P Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 There is a update on Kernow's news letter that I recieved today John The Newsletter also contains a good illustration of their advance order pricing policy which contrasts somewhat with another suppliers' approach,about which much has been written on this forum. RP 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Gwiwer Posted June 8, 2012 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 8, 2012 I have to say that the test shot looks very good indeed and with the few minor tweaks which are required (as is normal at this stage in the process) I am anticipating another superbly-rendered model from our friends in Camborne and Barwell. True to life the gap between the cars is wide - wider than on contemporary electric units which might cause a few unknowing eyebrows to be raised) and offering an option on fitting seats in the end compartment rather than having them already moulded in makes for as much flexibility as we might possibly expect at the price. Roll on the painted samples. And then the finished article which won't be too far away now though still perhaps Christmas at the earliest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevelewis Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 I spoke to Kernow today (08.06.12 ) to confirm some details re my orders, I was advised that they expect deliveries to take place late 2012 but more likely early 2013. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinkyme Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 This weeks Kernow newsletter has an up date on THUMBER now price has gone up to £129 for new pre orders and when released £139. Also date is now showing as early 2013, its a shame that something like this has taken so long to come around and we are still waiting. I am sure it will be good and I hope 2013 date will be met. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flood Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 To be honest that's good news for me. My Bank Manager must already think that I don't know how to manage my finances so as the all blue one is not due to be in the first batch released then it gives me a chance to get back into credit before Kernow come knocking on my door. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Gwiwer Posted August 17, 2012 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 17, 2012 The £129 price is still £20 cheaper than they were being offered at in the earlier stages. That is worth remembering when we mutter about "constant rises". Kernow has also advised that owing to continued cost increases being passed on from China that they are no longer taking pre-orders for models not due in the first batch but will re-open those for order once they have a firm price on later batches. All existing orders are honoured at the price current on date of order except that any orders which were placed at the original £149 price and were reduced when production switched to Bachmann will stay at the reduced price, tax rate changes excepted. These will be well worth the very long wait when they arrive. That might be very late this year and "early 2013" is erring on the side of caution. Much will depend upon what (if anything) has to be corrected, and how many times, as the various samples are inspected. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
47606odin Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 (edited) regarding replacing 205 cabs to create a 207, 207's body profile is also smaller, as clearances were smaller on the routes run by the oxted units originally. to see the difference, look at the differences when the CEP coach was added to some of the units Edited September 1, 2012 by 47606odin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Gwiwer Posted September 1, 2012 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 1, 2012 (edited) Class 207 (3D) units were built to an intermediate width. They were 8' 6" over bodies and 9' 0" overall (which includes railings and handles) when 9' 0" over body and 9' 3" overall was the standard. This is somewhat more generous than the "Hastings Line gauge" of 8' 2½" over body and 9' 0" overall. The need for a small class of units to these dimensions arose from the need to pass through Grove Tunnel between the two Tunbridge Wells stations. This is of substandard width but not as restrictive as the relined and narrowed bores between Tunbridge Wells and Hastings which more severely restricted just that section of line. The 3D (East Sussex) units - the "D" arises from the last letter of "Oxted" upon which service group the units were normally employed - replaced narrow-bodied steam stock on these routes and could be found working Tunbridge Wells - Eridge / Brighton, London - Oxted - East Grinstead / Brighton via Uckfield and related services. The exact pattern varied over the years and changed as lines steadily closed. Standard width stock was permitted as far as Tunbridge Wells West station via Groombridge (and 3H units could often be found berthed at TWW between weekday peak London turns) but not beyond and could thus not reach Central nor Tonbridge and London via the main line. 3D units were permitted through Wells Tunnel and thus reached Tonbridge on occasions. You cannot build a class 207 from a 205. The entire bodies are different. Not only different widths but with a different internal layout. The 205 (3H) has DMBS+TS+DTCL while a 207 (3D) had DMBS+TCL+DTS. All accommodation was open except first class. Unusually for the SR the TCL in a class 207 had the first class compartments amidships with two small second class saloons either side. Some interesting images of Grove Tunnel at this link. Please note posting this link in no way condones potentially unlawful activities sometimes associated with the organisation concerned. http://www.subbrit.o...ove/index.shtml Edited September 1, 2012 by Gwiwer 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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