RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted January 8, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 8, 2018 Tempted by the Lord Nelson. I wonder if the tender could be made available as a spare to put behind a Schools? Matey, there will be zillions of old Bachman ones going spare now. Walter Cart Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob F Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 I wonder if an etched Centurion plate is long enough to cover over the Leviathan print on 50040. Centurion will always be 50011 to me. Rob Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 Isn't this where we came in? A blurred image of a Nelson on the Night Ferry? So plenty of Nelsons in the South East pre-1945. The Southern one without deflectors being very appropriate. 851 Sir Francis Drake was a Stewarts Lane locomotive from 1932 to 1940. Jason 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Captain Kernow Posted January 8, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 8, 2018 Matey, there will be zillions of old Bachman ones going spare now. I would imagine they will be very annoyed at being replaced by a younger model. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 I thought that the original reference was to the new 87. Aren’t war criminals always on the losing side? It was to do with the J36. But Andy's said to stop that conversation.... Jason Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonathan452 Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 (edited) Will the Virgin Mk3 (loco hauled) catering vehicle be the 3 window RUB (as illustrated but inaccurate for the period) or the more appropriate (albeit ex LIma) 4 window RFM? Surely Hornby's researchers must have checked this one out. It will also now be interesting so see if and when we get the more authentic Oxford Rail Mk3a/3b's in Virgin Livery. EDIT Just read post 231. Edited January 8, 2018 by jonathan452 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
railroadbill Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 I thought that the original reference was to the new 87. Aren’t war criminals always on the losing side? King Arthur? :-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Johnster Posted January 8, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 8, 2018 King Arthur? :-) Fought for the Brythonic Celts against the invading Saxons. Definitely on the losing side! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
railroadbill Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 The Nelsons look really good, presumably to a similar standard to the S15, (or Duchess or current Hornby locos). Interesting that there is an original Maunsell version as well. Having 4 Bulleid pacfics available as well, "unrebuilt" & rebuilt MNs, "unrebuilt/rebuilt WC/BB. Particularly with a WC with later condition tender with cut down sides, doesn't seem to have been one like that for a while? Grange in green with smaller tender. Maunsell coaches in green. And this brilliant idea of a sound chip with station background sounds, fitted in a van so it can just sit on a siding or whatever. That's more than enough to be going on with for now. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted January 8, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 8, 2018 (edited) The Nelsons look really good, presumably to a similar standard to the S15, (or Duchess or current Hornby locos). Interesting that there is an original Maunsell version as well. Having 4 Bulleid pacfics available as well, "unrebuilt" & rebuilt MNs, "unrebuilt/rebuilt WC/BB. Particularly with a WC with later condition tender with cut down sides, doesn't seem to have been one like that for a while? Grange in green with smaller tender. Maunsell coaches in green. This is the tender we need on more Pacifics The old Wrenn one was like this IIRC. https://www.ebay.ie/itm/WRENN-W2236-BR-SOUTHERN-WEST-COUNTRY-DORCHESTER-4-6-2-LOCO-IN-BOX-V-G-C/142621094593?hash=item2134e132c1:g:3zUAAOSwAaJaGw Phil Edited January 8, 2018 by Mallard60022 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
railroadbill Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 Fought for the Brythonic Celts against the invading Saxons. Definitely on the losing side! Absolutely. Totally off topic but just finished reading "The Buried Giant" by Kazuo Ishiguro, a fantasy that deals with this very subject in a kind of post-Arthurian Britain. Back to Hornby, the Hitachi 800 units look the sort of up to the minute thing that Hornby is good at. Little too up to date for my layout, though. :-) Note to self: pre-order Peckett this time! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Johnster Posted January 8, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 8, 2018 Looks like a good solid list of proven sellers that will do Hornby no harm; the company has to be in a 'take stock and regroup' mode for now. The J15 should be a good seller. I wonder if the re-introduced 2721 has a new chassis; I might be up for one if it does. If it has been re-tooled with correct axle spacings (dream on, Johnster) I will definitely be up for one! I am a little disappointed not to see let GW liveried toads, but like the new lettering on the one they have listed. The new liveries on the auto trailers are of interest to me as well, but, given my restricted area and period, I am not surprised that there is not a huge amount to get me excited here. Well done Mr K and co., and good luck. Future prosperity might put you in a mood to make me some non-gangwayed GW coaches that are not B sets... 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CazRail Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 I don't understand why Hornby still haven't made a plain DB 60. would be the ideal loco to make with a set of decals to have your choice of 60... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kernowtim Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 Ooh.. A new Arnolds sands open wagon for the collection :-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
railroadbill Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 (edited) This is the tender we need on more Pacifics (shown partly here). The old Wrenn one was like this IIRC. 1585.jpg Phil Thanks. The subject of tenders does get a little complex (where did I put my RCTS book?). Also there is the question of earlier narrow cab or later wide cab "unrebuilts" (think Hornby have done a wide cab one some time ago?) But this current release 34019 looks useful. Have to keep an eye open for that one, the Bulleid pacifics seem to sell fast when released. Edited January 8, 2018 by railroadbill Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown Warrior Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 (edited) There are more plausible contenders for a sound-fitted wagon. Cattle wagons, for example - imagine a rake of them mooing all round the layout!With a moo moo here and a moo moo there, here a moo, there a moo, everywhere a moo moo! Wonder if Hornby can add the “moos” to the sounds file before release, Belted Galloways for preference to go with the J36! Just need to fit a cattle wagon body then! By the way none of the Southern Fans have mentioned the U Class. Just thought I’d mention it. Well that could be enough silliness for today, perhaps! Edited January 8, 2018 by Unknown Warrior Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted January 8, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 8, 2018 (edited) Thanks. The subject of tenders does get a little complex (where did I put my RCTS book?). Also there is the question of earlier narrow cab or later wide cab "unrebuilts" (think Hornby have done a wide cab one some time ago?) But this current release is helpful. ToomanySpams has a fantastic list of the whole lot of Pacifics' 'differences'; cabs, tenders etc. and loads of other gubbins.I think it could be on SEMG as well? I think this one on Trevone was a rebuilt body; there were a few like this IIRC without looking it up. The tender game is a nightmare with both the Lights and the Packets. Phil Edited January 8, 2018 by Mallard60022 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
railroadbill Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 By the way none of the Southern Fans have mentioned the U Class. Just thought I’d mention it. May be too close in appearance to the Bachmann N class (and they've had a lot of mileage out of that, including the N gauge one). Still a missing link (but plenty of goodies to be going on with in today's announcement). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bart2day Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 (edited) I take it nobody at Hornby or on here for that matter will be watching 'Great British railway journeys' tonight considering the contemporary railway is 'boring' and of 'not much interest'? Edited January 8, 2018 by bart2day 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold RFS Posted January 8, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 8, 2018 Thanks. The subject of tenders does get a little complex (where did I put my RCTS book?). Also there is the question of earlier narrow cab or later wide cab "unrebuilts" (think Hornby have done a wide cab one some time ago?) But this current release 34019 looks useful. Have to keep an eye open for that one, the Bulleid pacifics seem to sell fast when released. Comprehensive details of tenders on the SEMG website here - http://www.semgonline.com/steam/blp_ten.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold tomparryharry Posted January 8, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 8, 2018 Looks like a good solid list of proven sellers that will do Hornby no harm; the company has to be in a 'take stock and regroup' mode for now. The J15 should be a good seller. I wonder if the re-introduced 2721 has a new chassis; I might be up for one if it does. If it has been re-tooled with correct axle spacings (dream on, Johnster) I will definitely be up for one! I am a little disappointed not to see let GW liveried toads, but like the new lettering on the one they have listed. The new liveries on the auto trailers are of interest to me as well, but, given my restricted area and period, I am not surprised that there is not a huge amount to get me excited here. Well done Mr K and co., and good luck. Future prosperity might put you in a mood to make me some non-gangwayed GW coaches that are not B sets... That would be 2 or 3 for Llantrisant. On a slightly different note, I wonder what the work involved to produce an early 27xx pannier? Ian. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Harrison Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 Con rod nut spanner for me please. Should prove really useful for when I'm tinkering with the RTR chassis I use for my hackbash projects. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottrains29 Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 More TTS decoders will be welcome, but is there any difference in sound from the newly announced class 66 decoder (R8121) to the, yet to be released, class 67 decoder (R8105)? Many retailers list R8105 as class 66/67. I always thought they would sound the same. Also, quite disappointed the stand alone HST decoder is an MTU one rather than the proper Valenta engine sound. Surely the Valenta sound would be FAR more popular. I assume Hornby are also making a Valenta TTS decoder for the TTS fitted HST Intercity train pack as they clearly state it is a 'Valenta' powered train pack. It would make sense to sell the Valenta one separately too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted January 8, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 8, 2018 (edited) The Nelsons look really good, presumably to a similar standard to the S15, (or Duchess or current Hornby locos). Interesting that there is an original Maunsell version as well. Having 4 Bulleid pacfics available as well, "unrebuilt" & rebuilt MNs, "unrebuilt/rebuilt WC/BB. Particularly with a WC with later condition tender with cut down sides, doesn't seem to have been one like that for a while? Grange in green with smaller tender. Maunsell coaches in green. And this brilliant idea of a sound chip with station background sounds, fitted in a van so it can just sit on a siding or whatever. That's more than enough to be going on with for now. All the Hornby rebuilt Light Pacifics have tenders with cut down sides, as did the prototypes. The only Light Pacific tender not covered by Hornby is the 5250 gallon BR rebodied ones as produced by Hornby Dublo and Wrenn that were paired with a total of six rebuilt Light Pacifics (though never more than four at the same time). Neither Barnstaple, Dorchester or any air-smoothed loco ever had one in reality though! They are easily recognised by their lacking the characteristic step in the bodywork part way along the sides and a few MN tenders were similarly rebodied. Light Pacifics that did have them were 34031, 34039, 34046 from 1959 and 34059 from 1960. 34087 and 34104 each acquired one in 1965 following withdrawal of 34031 and 34039. In preservation, 34046 and 34059 run with them, the one behind 34046 being a new build. AFAIK 34039, when active, ran with a cut-down 5500 gallon one. Hope this helps John EDIT: Polite request to Hornby, if you do decide to do this variant, can I have Torrington, please? Edited January 8, 2018 by Dunsignalling Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
irishmail Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 (edited) Nice to see some more class 50's. Pity though they have not released a refurbished one in all over blue as opposed to large logo. *edited to correct spelling. Edited January 8, 2018 by irishmail Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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