Covkid Posted April 19, 2022 Share Posted April 19, 2022 24 minutes ago, frobisher said: Answer is in the picture 😉 Doohhh !!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sulzer71 Posted April 19, 2022 Share Posted April 19, 2022 If we are going off what we can gather is going to be produced I can so far identify 8 possible candidates from Derby Sulzers that fit my modelling criteria , just hope conversion to EM will be easy ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Davidjsmith Posted April 19, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 19, 2022 (edited) There Will be some from SLW if they get around to officially launching them too!!These do look good though . Edited April 19, 2022 by Davidjsmith Mistake in spelling! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sulzer71 Posted April 19, 2022 Share Posted April 19, 2022 28 minutes ago, Davidjsmith said: There Will be some from SLW if they get around to officially launching them too!!These do look good though . Yep , I'm well aware but it's a question of who's gonna get them out first , if I'm honest I'd rather have the SLW ones as I have several of Phil's products already with more on order but I also have some of the headcode box 24s by Bachmann which I'm currently converting to tablet catcher versions as we still don't know when Sutton's ones will land 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BVMR21 Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 It’s certainly interesting this project, looks better than the class 24 on the grills and handrails at least. Should be good to see them properly announce some more liveries and maybe show some livery samples? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Covkid Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 On 31/08/2022 at 19:21, BVMR21 said: It’s certainly interesting this project, looks better than the class 24 on the grills and handrails at least. Should be good to see them properly announce some more liveries and maybe show some livery samples? Particularly as Bachmann are proceeding with the "early" bodyshell design as opposed to SLW and Heljan's smoother shaped "late" 25s. The problems Bachmann face are the myriad of little detail differences between each one. Although the only significant bodyshell end differences are welded up doors or not, and lamp irons and headboard brackets. All headcode panels retained glass to the end. Bodysides are vac only or dual brakes meaning the filters were hinged on one side. The second triangular panel was cut in most if not all dual braked examples. Then the bodyside steps, water filler hatches, No 2 end boiler grille etc etc, as well as the five without boiler water tanks 029 030 031 032 and 242 I am confident Bachmann will produce some beauties for us if the 24s are anything to go by. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sulzer71 Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 I wonder when these will actually appear , unfortunately nothing from the current Suttons line up of 25s suits my modelling needs so hopefully Bachmann do one to put me on for the time being 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butler Henderson Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, sulzer71 said: I wonder when these will actually appear , unfortunately nothing from the current Suttons line up of 25s suits my modelling needs so hopefully Bachmann do one to put me on for the time being According to the current Bachmann Times (Collectors Club magazine) they have passed the EP stage and are having their livery artworks prepared. Next will be the livery samples and then production Edited November 10, 2022 by Butler Henderson 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul.Uni Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 Release date on the Bachmann website is Dec/Jan 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BVMR21 Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 That's good to hear, although it would be good to see more liveries and running numbers announced. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mophead45143 Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 I see the blue version is still having an identity crisis, simultaneously listed as both 25057 & 25060! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halvarras Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 17 minutes ago, Mophead45143 said: I see the blue version is still having an identity crisis, simultaneously listed as both 25057 & 25060! Gosh, don't tell me they're 'doing a Hornby' from decades ago and supplying a 'choose your number' transfer sheet. I wouldn't really regard that as progress 🤭! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob D2 Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 Long gestation, but as the SLW one is now £210 , I may have a go at it when it comes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mallaig1983 Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 25s were not regular on the West Highland but we’re not uncommon. I model in 1983 but have some Heljan 27s to backdate to 1980 sitting patiently for sound decoders. I’m eagerly awaiting an early series 25 being announced by SLW but if Bachmann produce something suitable before I would probably take the plunge. But! Nothing sounds as good as an SLW sound project and speaker combination 🤔 However that said Bachmann don’t exactly release many variants in one go so I’m not holding my breath. How many years have they been producing 37s? And still no banger blue, cutaway cowels, oval buffer split box has ever been produced other than a commission. Won’t hold my breath for fear of suffocation. My immediate needs are catered for to a degree with my Baccy 37s and soon to arrive Accurascale ones but I would absolutely love a really decent looking and sounding 25228. I’ve learned to be patient. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Covkid Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 16 hours ago, mallaig1983 said: 25s were not regular on the West Highland but we’re not uncommon. I model in 1983 but have some Heljan 27s to backdate to 1980 sitting patiently for sound decoders. I’m eagerly awaiting an early series 25 being announced by SLW but if Bachmann produce something suitable before I would probably take the plunge. But! Nothing sounds as good as an SLW sound project and speaker combination 🤔 However that said Bachmann don’t exactly release many variants in one go so I’m not holding my breath. How many years have they been producing 37s? And still no banger blue, cutaway cowels, oval buffer split box has ever been produced other than a commission. Won’t hold my breath for fear of suffocation. My immediate needs are catered for to a degree with my Baccy 37s and soon to arrive Accurascale ones but I would absolutely love a really decent looking and sounding 25228. I’ve learned to be patient. Don't be too surprised. There were probably more individual variants of the early bodyshell 25s than class 37s, particularly if you include the cab end ironmongery. Stuff like battery box doors or lack thereof, plated over bodyside handholds, boiler room grille / cover and boiler room roof, exhausts, bodyside air filters with or without hinges and latches. The 2nd triangular panel etc etc My preference from Bachmann would be a vac braked GSYP and a dual braked BFYE pre TOPS - both with the Derby style cabside numbers. I could also be very tempted with an economy green D759x and also the oddball BR blue with late steam crests 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob D2 Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 16 hours ago, mallaig1983 said: 25s were not regular on the West Highland but we’re not uncommon. I model in 1983 but have some Heljan 27s to backdate to 1980 sitting patiently for sound decoders. I’m eagerly awaiting an early series 25 being announced by SLW but if Bachmann produce something suitable before I would probably take the plunge. But! Nothing sounds as good as an SLW sound project and speaker combination 🤔 However that said Bachmann don’t exactly release many variants in one go so I’m not holding my breath. How many years have they been producing 37s? And still no banger blue, cutaway cowels, oval buffer split box has ever been produced other than a commission. Won’t hold my breath for fear of suffocation. My immediate needs are catered for to a degree with my Baccy 37s and soon to arrive Accurascale ones but I would absolutely love a really decent looking and sounding 25228. I’ve learned to be patient. Interesting . I've never seen a photo of a 25 on WHL . class 20 yes and the usual suspects but not a 25 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mallaig1983 Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 11 minutes ago, rob D2 said: Interesting . I've never seen a photo of a 25 on WHL . class 20 yes and the usual suspects but not a 25 They’re out there but not so common. It’s funny how the 20s were so famous for running to Mallaig but this only happened ten or so times during the 80s. Due to a lack of a working 37 at Fort William. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mallaig1983 Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 41 minutes ago, Covkid said: Don't be too surprised. There were probably more individual variants of the early bodyshell 25s than class 37s, particularly if you include the cab end ironmongery. Stuff like battery box doors or lack thereof, plated over bodyside handholds, boiler room grille / cover and boiler room roof, exhausts, bodyside air filters with or without hinges and latches. The 2nd triangular panel etc etc My preference from Bachmann would be a vac braked GSYP and a dual braked BFYE pre TOPS - both with the Derby style cabside numbers. I could also be very tempted with an economy green D759x and also the oddball BR blue with late steam crests Yes, a bit of a minefield. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted March 18, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 18, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, rob D2 said: Interesting . I've never seen a photo of a 25 on WHL . class 20 yes and the usual suspects but not a 25 3 of them were regulars… 😃 but I suspect not what you mean. But flickr does show at least 1… https://flic.kr/p/Temv5h Edited March 18, 2023 by adb968008 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Covkid Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 7 hours ago, rob D2 said: Interesting . I've never seen a photo of a 25 on WHL . class 20 yes and the usual suspects but not a 25 5 hours ago, adb968008 said: 3 of them were regulars… 😃 but I suspect not what you mean. But flickr does show at least 1… https://flic.kr/p/Temv5h There is a published shot of 25109 on the WHL - possibly in a Bradford Barton book but not seen that piccy of 25231 before. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Roy Langridge Posted March 19, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 19, 2023 9 hours ago, rob D2 said: Interesting . I've never seen a photo of a 25 on WHL . class 20 yes and the usual suspects but not a 25 See Flickr (not my photo): And here: http://www.eastbank.org.uk/whl.htm Roy 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Covkid Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 7 hours ago, Roy Langridge said: See Flickr (not my photo): And here: http://www.eastbank.org.uk/whl.htm Roy Oh wow !!! Is that coach still extant ? You could nearly recreate that scene if you "fabloned" D7612 on the South Devon Railway !!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Covkid Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 Did anyone pop into the Bachmann lounge at Ally Pally ? Just wondered if there were any updates in the showcases Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Davidjsmith Posted March 19, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 19, 2023 I did but was only really interested in the 25 the same samples as last time.End of the year ETA Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Covkid Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 4 hours ago, Davidjsmith said: I did but was only really interested in the 25 the same samples as last time.End of the year ETA Gives us time to save then David 😀 My problem is I want two Accurascale GSYP D69ers which they haven't announced yet and two Bachmann 25s, but also not the ones they have advertised yet !!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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