andyman7 Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 5 hours ago, Mophead45143 said: Flippin' 'eck! Hey ho, looks like 25057 is getting a weathered finish then? Or had that just been done for the display? It is listed as being weathered (if released as per the Warley sample that would be 'lightly weathered' as opposed to 'typically filthy') Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob D2 Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 That looks really nice . A vast improvement on the fake soul bar bachy one . May have to get one Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suzy Sulzer Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 On 27/11/2023 at 10:10, Alcanman said: Don't think it's weathered, just light reflection from the glass cabinet. Sorry its defiantly weathered. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alcanman Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 20 minutes ago, Suzy Sulzer said: Sorry its defiantly weathered. Ok. In that case the weathering looks very light and makes a good basis for further weathering. I'll defiantly be ordering one. It looks great. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halvarras Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 2 hours ago, Suzy Sulzer said: Its very light weathering on the body , but the give away is the bogie area. And the roof and buffer heads. Within a month of a works overhaul I'd say..... 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Covkid Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 (edited) 23 hours ago, Suzy Sulzer said: Its very light weathering on the body , but the give away is the bogie area. I had to look twice when i was there 21 hours ago, Halvarras said: And the roof and buffer heads. Within a month of a works overhaul I'd say..... I agree with "Suzy Sulzer" it is quite light weathering, but just enough to make the detail stand out. One of the clues is the translucent fibreglass roof panel over the engine. This should be a translucent creamy very pale yellow colour, but accumulated soot and grime whilst in service. "Reclaiming" the translucent feel is probably the only attention I will give to mine when I purchase it, apart from maybe picking a little of the bogie pipe runs out in white. My 25s will be 1970s era and mostly quite clean. Edited November 30, 2023 by Covkid Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold MikeParkin65 Posted December 1, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 1, 2023 On 29/11/2023 at 08:51, Suzy Sulzer said: Its very light weathering on the body , but the give away is the bogie area. I had to look twice when i was there The only thing I'd be cautious about is that my recent experience is that the weathered samples in the cabinet and the catalogue often differ from the production batch. The production versions of recent WD and 9Fs for example are less subtle and have some questionable shades (especially 'brick red' all over the frames) than what was shown before release. Fixable but I wonder if the very light dusting this sample has received will be borne out in the production versions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold MikeParkin65 Posted December 1, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 1, 2023 Explained in the recent club mag :- 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
atherton Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 Personally I would have preferred it the other way around, with a well weathered green 25 and the blue one clean as ex-works in a transition period layout. You don't see many photos of clean green 25's do you? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold stovepipe Posted December 1, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 1, 2023 1 hour ago, atherton said: Personally I would have preferred it the other way around, with a well weathered green 25 and the blue one clean as ex-works in a transition period layout. You don't see many photos of clean green 25's do you? Given there is only two versions being released, I would rather neither were. Factory weathering is all a bit ‘meh’ for me. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
atherton Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 Yep that's fair, and certainly the approach Accurascale take. Most of my Sulzers are freight only so never clean and I always add to the factory weathering anyway, although renumbering 25057 to a four digit version and changing the headcode would not look out of place ex works for me.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul.Uni Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 1 hour ago, stovepipe said: Given there is only two versions being released That you know of. Given that the 2018 announced models currently have a release date of Jul/Aug. I expect further examples to be announced in May. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyman7 Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 Indeed. The 37s and 47s multiplied like rabbits once released into the wild 🙂 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted December 2, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 2, 2023 20 hours ago, stovepipe said: Given there is only two versions being released, I would rather neither were. Factory weathering is all a bit ‘meh’ for me. The actual wording is “two models have been announced so far” given since this was announced in Jan 2018, two different rtr 25’s have been announced, (July 2018 Heljan, Feb 2021 SLWj some secrecy could be understood. Theres a whole world of class 25’s to explore, they might share a class number but theres a world of differences. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sulzer71 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Just noted from the Bachmann website this is now showing as July/August delivery 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul.Uni Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 New RRP: 32-340 - £209.95 32-341 - £199.95 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold MikeParkin65 Posted March 14 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 14 On 11/03/2024 at 14:09, Paul.Uni said: New RRP: 32-340 - £209.95 32-341 - £199.95 Interesting that this is lower than the class 20. Remarkable what having a competing model in the market from a rival does for prices. 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Davidjsmith Posted March 14 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 14 I was told at the members day that all the variations as 47-37 etc would be done on the 25 .DCC /DCC SOUND & DELUXE versions but so far that doesn’t seem to be the case? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul.Uni Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 Wait for the relevant quarterly announcement. Based on the current release date, that would be the May announcement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted March 15 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 15 (edited) 16 hours ago, MikeParkin65 said: Interesting that this is lower than the class 20. Remarkable what having a competing model in the market from a rival does for prices. 2 competing models… though I fear the Heljan 25 myself, the SLW 25 is a hard act to follow at any price. Edited March 15 by adb968008 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold MikeParkin65 Posted March 15 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 15 1 hour ago, adb968008 said: 2 competing models… though I fear the Heljan 25 myself, the SLW 25 is a hard act to follow at any price. Deliberately omitted SLW as I don’t consider them to be mass market. My 25 is coming from SLW based on the fact that from images published so far I believe it is the most realistic 4mm plastic model I have ever seen! 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul.Uni Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 (edited) Release date on the Bachmann website for the 2 models has moved forward to Jun/Jul Edited March 15 by Paul.Uni Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albie the plumber Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 10 hours ago, adb968008 said: 2 competing models… though I fear the Heljan 25 myself, the SLW 25 is a hard act to follow at any price. Agree that the SLW '25 is the top dog in terms of quality, I have two on order . But delivery times are slowwwww ! Those who can't / won't wait may be attracted to what's currently available. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyman7 Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 15 minutes ago, Albie the plumber said: Agree that the SLW '25 is the top dog in terms of quality, I have two on order . But delivery times are slowwwww ! Those who can't / won't wait may be attracted to what's currently available. Agreed, the SLW product is the ultimate one but is simply not widely enough available to directly compete. There are a few Diesel models now where Heljan and Bachmann compete directly. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted March 16 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 16 (edited) 18 hours ago, andyman7 said: Agreed, the SLW product is the ultimate one but is simply not widely enough available to directly compete. There are a few Diesel models now where Heljan and Bachmann compete directly. Diesel models are quite competitive all round now… of the “mainline” BR diesels from late 1970-90’s, and made by manufacturers post 1990s, only the 20*/26/27/33/58 havent been duplicated, but all of them were also made in the 80/90’s too. of the rest the 20*/24/25/31/37/40/44/45/46/47/50/52/55/56/57/60 have been redone or being redone within the last decade. * the 20 has been retooled by Bachmann. My guess is someone will peel off the 33 at some point, though Heljans got that nicely covered so maybe a while… Heljan might want to consider a re run of 58’s to keep things “fresh”.. mines a fertis one ! so with that theres not much left to do in diesels !… Though if AC is your thing… theres not been a new 81 in 6 decades, and the 82/3/4 is an open door…. If an 80 can sell surely an 81 can. Edited March 16 by adb968008 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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