Jump to content
 

Bachmann Class 25 retool announced 2018


Phil Bullock
 Share

Recommended Posts

37 minutes ago, MikeParkin65 said:

Dont think it looks 'bad' at all - just not as good as the SLW version and now very close in price.

Yes , I have 2 of the SLW ones on order but for the non sound modeller it's not such a bad representation of the real thing

  • Like 1
  • Agree 1
Link to post
Share on other sites

  • RMweb Gold
On 28/06/2023 at 12:21, MikeParkin65 said:

Dont think it looks 'bad' at all - just not as good as the SLW version and now very close in price.

Dont forget theres a Heljan 25 too, though I think its better lost than found myself.

 

 

  • Agree 3
Link to post
Share on other sites

  • 2 weeks later...
  • RMweb Premium

Thanks for the links.

Am I the only one surprised at just two models being released from this considerable new tooling to date ?  I would have expected much more to be made of the boilered variety - say an as built GSYP version and maybe a weathered GFYE as well as maybe a pristine BFYE.  My modelling preference is 1960-1975 so I will have a 25057 but would have preferred it pristine to represent the earlier 1970s period. I will also have the "late" D5282 simply because it is a green 25, but can't help wondering why these 25s seem to be a little different in delivery style to the class 24s which Bachmann offered more versions of when they were planned and released. 

  • Agree 1
Link to post
Share on other sites

I would be very surprised if Bachmann didn't announce any further Class 25 models at the quarterly announcement before the release of the 2018 announced models.

 

Given the Class 25 has gone back to 'awaiting', I wouldn't expect any Class 25 models in the August or November announcements.

  • Like 1
  • Agree 1
Link to post
Share on other sites

  • RMweb Gold
On 13/07/2023 at 10:57, Covkid said:

, but can't help wondering why these 25s seem to be a little different in delivery style to the class 24s which Bachmann offered more versions of when they were planned and released. 

Part of the reason for this may be the number of 24s still available for sale, some at significant discount. You can currently buy a sound fitted 24 from Kernow for less than the indicated price of the non sound 25.  

  • Interesting/Thought-provoking 1
Link to post
Share on other sites

  • RMweb Gold
On 14/07/2023 at 11:14, MikeParkin65 said:

Part of the reason for this may be the number of 24s still available for sale, some at significant discount. You can currently buy a sound fitted 24 from Kernow for less than the indicated price of the non sound 25.  

I hadnt noticed much difference in sound between a 24 and a 25, a cheap way of a sound upgrade ?

Link to post
Share on other sites

23 hours ago, adb968008 said:

I hadnt noticed much difference in sound between a 24 and a 25, a cheap way of a sound upgrade ?

 

As far as I am concerned the only really discernable difference in sound between the class 24 and the class 25 is the warning horn tones.  25s were very distinctive. 

Link to post
Share on other sites

  • RMweb Gold
3 hours ago, Covkid said:

 

As far as I am concerned the only really discernable difference in sound between the class 24 and the class 25 is the warning horn tones.  25s were very distinctive. 

Distinctive, or cracked / knackered like the rest of the loco.

😁

I assume its down to placement location (roof vs underframe)

 

Edited by adb968008
Link to post
Share on other sites

7 hours ago, adb968008 said:

Distinctive, or cracked / knackered like the rest of the loco.

😁

I assume its down to placement location (roof vs underframe)

 

You do them a disservice !!!

The last ex works class 25 I remember was 25218 and I still remember the smell of fresh paint from it when it came to the Cambrian on a Adex to Barmouth.  Sadly it was suffering fuel starvation and retired to the shed at Machnylleth assisted by 25040, which then continued the trip up the coast on it's own. 

 

The problem is that 25s were all tarred with the same brush after the weekly Cambrian farces - 25228 and 25230 dragging the class down !!! 

Link to post
Share on other sites

13 minutes ago, Covkid said:

You do them a disservice !!!

The last ex works class 25 I remember was 25218 and I still remember the smell of fresh paint from it when it came to the Cambrian on a Adex to Barmouth.  Sadly it was suffering fuel starvation and retired to the shed at Machnylleth assisted by 25040, which then continued the trip up the coast on it's own. 

 

The problem is that 25s were all tarred with the same brush after the weekly Cambrian farces - 25228 and 25230 dragging the class down !!! 

I love the phrase fuel starvation. Is that interpreted as “ someone forgot to fill it up “

Link to post
Share on other sites

  • RMweb Gold
2 hours ago, Covkid said:

You do them a disservice !!!

The last ex works class 25 I remember was 25218 and I still remember the smell of fresh paint from it when it came to the Cambrian on a Adex to Barmouth.  Sadly it was suffering fuel starvation and retired to the shed at Machnylleth assisted by 25040, which then continued the trip up the coast on it's own. 

 

The problem is that 25s were all tarred with the same brush after the weekly Cambrian farces - 25228 and 25230 dragging the class down !!! 

its BRs Pot Noodle.

I remember seeing a 25 at Manchester Victoria in the banker line.

 

I saw the driver sit down in the cab… that is I saw his feet sit down through the gaps in the rust of the cab side.

Maybe it was my age at the time, but I recall seeing the last of the 24’s and they seemed better condition than the 25’s, but I suppose if it were the other way around and 24’s were around in the late 1980’s they’d be as bad then as well.


Thing is they sound knackered too… even in good condition they sounded one choke from shutdown.
I love the 25’s for that… its the BR equivalent of a battered up Ford Escort every teenager strived to own as a kid, even if it leaked oil, lights didnt work, dinged all over, windows didnt wind, wouldnt start, couldnt stop and broke down at the bottom of the street… but the cassette player worked, as did the back seat on a saturday night..

 

Fish and Chips, no money, cheap nights with a dirty rat, repeat next weekend.

in all mindsets.

 

 

 

Edited by adb968008
  • Like 1
  • Agree 2
  • Funny 2
Link to post
Share on other sites

2 hours ago, adb968008 said:

its BRs Pot Noodle.

I remember seeing a 25 at Manchester Victoria in the banker line.

 

I saw the driver sit down in the cab… that is I saw his feet sit down through the gaps in the rust of the cab side.

Maybe it was my age at the time, but I recall seeing the last of the 24’s and they seemed better condition than the 25’s, but I suppose if it were the other way around and 24’s were around in the late 1980’s they’d be as bad then as well.


Thing is they sound knackered too… even in good condition they sounded one choke from shutdown.
I love the 25’s for that… its the BR equivalent of a battered up Ford Escort every teenager strived to own as a kid, even if it leaked oil, lights didnt work, dinged all over, windows didnt wind, wouldnt start, couldnt stop and broke down at the bottom of the street… but the cassette player worked, as did the back seat on a saturday night..

 

Fish and Chips, no money, cheap nights with a dirty rat, repeat next weekend.

in all mindsets.

Class 25, BR's Ford Escort - love it! 🙂
I remember going to school when an EMU had come off the rails at Watford Junction. A 25 was spluttering away on the stocks in platform 3 ( a very rare sight in the DC line platforms), door open, drivers window down, absolutely filthy and covered in grease and oil, rust patches, just how I think of them. They may have occasionally been ex-works, but like Pig-Pen in the Peanut's cartoons, within no time they would be covered in muck again.  
https://www.facebook.com/schulzmuseum/photos/this-strip-was-published-on-november-25-1959-pigpen-charliebrown-peanuts/10154450190778054/?paipv=0&eav=AfZGU-xGaWDuJ3EbvnpgvUY__YZrj4Wz-anABRzVIkJ7vvRox9BXn0SI2uqXr4W6qI0&_rdr

Edited by andyman7
  • Like 3
Link to post
Share on other sites

On 18/07/2023 at 09:07, adb968008 said:

I love the 25’s for that… its the BR equivalent of a battered up Ford Escort

Myself and Mr Needles loved our Mk3 escorts lol

Edited by 25901
  • Funny 1
Link to post
Share on other sites

Been sifting through David Hills' excellent Derby Sulzers site for inspiration for the Bachmann offering of 25057.  

It looks to me like 7578 aka 25228 might be a suitable choice.  Probably dual braked at Glasgow works in 1970 with the bodyside steps blanked off and boiler room grille plated over as well as gangway doors. Bodyside louvres fitted with hinge straps - blue but pre TOPS - a big tick for me, even though it was a ScR allocated loco for well over the next decade.  

Link to post
Share on other sites

  • 3 months later...
2 hours ago, Mophead45143 said:

 

Flippin' 'eck! Hey ho, looks like 25057 is getting a weathered finish then? Or had that just been done for the display?

Don't think it's weathered, just light reflection from the glass cabinet.

 

Edited by Alcanman
error
  • Agree 2
Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
 Share

×
×
  • Create New...