RMweb Premium SHerr Posted April 13, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 13, 2023 12 hours ago, Roy Langridge said: If you have a read of the summer 2022 newsletter, there is clear mention of a 25/1 and some tooling shots. Roy There was also a partially decorated 25/1 body shell at York on the SLW stand (from memory painted but not handrails etc) although it was quite tucked away it was definitely there - plates over doors and horns on roof so fairly confident it wasn’t a 24/1. Unfortunately I didn’t take a photo as too busy ordering one of the blue later bodied 25’s. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sulzer71 Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 (edited) 10 minutes ago, SHerr said: There was also a partially decorated 25/1 body shell at York on the SLW stand (from memory painted but not handrails etc) although it was quite tucked away it was definitely there - plates over doors and horns on roof so fairly confident it wasn’t a 24/1. Unfortunately I didn’t take a photo as too busy ordering one of the blue later bodied 25’s. You are correct , it was 25042 and there's a picture of it on page 23 of the Suttons thread Edited April 13, 2023 by sulzer71 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob D2 Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 SLW one may turn out superior but my indecision has led to a price rise , they are now £210 for basic dcc ready . At that point Bachmann becomes appealing if it's a cheaper deal 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BVMR21 Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 Wonder when we will see the RRP for these, hopefully soon (and with a BR Green with SYP 25/1), just depends as @rob D2 says on if it's cheaper than the SLW version. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted May 24, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 24, 2023 Spotted in the cabinet at Quorn last weekend.. 12 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BVMR21 Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 Those are looking good, any news on price yet? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sulzer71 Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 11 hours ago, adb968008 said: Spotted in the cabinet at Quorn last weekend.. Looking at the windows there's obviously going to be an SFX version 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Roy Langridge Posted May 25, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 25, 2023 12 hours ago, adb968008 said: Spotted in the cabinet at Quorn last weekend.. What is the status of these? Are they an EP or further along than that? The reason I ask is that there appears to be another obvious "seam" line: On the prototype the cab roof and headcode box wing blend together quite high up as seen on this Flickr link (not my photo): Roy Roy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob D2 Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 11 minutes ago, Roy Langridge said: What is the status of these? Are they an EP or further along than that? The reason I ask is that there appears to be another obvious "seam" line: On the prototype the cab roof and headcode box wing blend together quite high up as seen on this Flickr link (not my photo): Roy Roy I think decorated samples normally well after EP, so not far off production ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold MikeParkin65 Posted May 25, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 25, 2023 1 hour ago, Roy Langridge said: What is the status of these? Are they an EP or further along than that? The reason I ask is that there appears to be another obvious "seam" line: On the prototype the cab roof and headcode box wing blend together quite high up as seen on this Flickr link (not my photo): Roy Roy Seems much less apparent on the green version. These are painted samples, wonder if they are older engineering samples? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyman7 Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 1 hour ago, Roy Langridge said: What is the status of these? Are they an EP or further along than that? The reason I ask is that there appears to be another obvious "seam" line: On the prototype the cab roof and headcode box wing blend together quite high up as seen on this Flickr link (not my photo): Roy Roy There was more than one variation of the wing and how high it blended in on the real thing so a photo of a specific example isn't definitive for assessing a model of a different loco. Class 24s/25s are an absolute minefield. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Covkid Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 1 hour ago, Roy Langridge said: What is the status of these? Are they an EP or further along than that? The reason I ask is that there appears to be another obvious "seam" line: On the prototype the cab roof and headcode box wing blend together quite high up as seen on this Flickr link (not my photo): Roy 19 minutes ago, MikeParkin65 said: Seems much less apparent on the green version. These are painted samples, wonder if they are older engineering samples? Did quite a bit of research on these a few years ago, as well as correspondence with Sulzer guru David Hills. I came to the conclusion that different batches had different seam lines on their cab roof mouldings. Some right down to the guttering, and others much less so as per your piccie. Add to the fact that class 25 cabs got swapped around - It is not something i am settled on. Just glad Bachmann are doing a decent "boilered" 25. My modelling era is 1960-1975 but if Bachmann do my favourites 25040 and 25245 then I will find it very difficult to resist them. One day back in the early 1980s 25218+25040 worked a charter train down the Cambrian but despite 25218 being ex works, shiny and smelling of new paint it had fuel issues and had shut down. 25040 dumped it on the shed at Machynlleth then returned to the stock and took the train single handedly up the coast to I think Barmouth and back. It always stood out in my view, but being a vaccy only example it didn't have a long life. On one of only two works tours I saw a flamecut of 25040's cabside at Swindon, bought it and humped it home - DMU to Bristol and a HST back to BHM then an AM4 to Walsall. Sadly a house move saw it occupy a skip in the street where Ii lived !!! 25245 was a trusty dual braked workhorse and was an all round favourite of mine. It was also "special" as it had the Royal Train comms plate on the nose ends. 2 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Roy Langridge Posted May 25, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 25, 2023 1 hour ago, andyman7 said: There was more than one variation of the wing and how high it blended in on the real thing so a photo of a specific example isn't definitive for assessing a model of a different loco. Class 24s/25s are an absolute minefield. Yep, which is why I show a photo of the real 25057 alongside the model 25057... Roy 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Covkid Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 (edited) Having a quick search around online piccies I think it was the Darlington built "RSH batch" of 25/2 which had the slighlty different cab roof mouldings. Take a look at this shot of 25234 to see the "creases" 25234+25196 Crewe | 25234 and 25196 pass Crewe station with … | Flickr Another one is 25242 working with 25227 on the "Annesley Anabasis" railtour on 2nd April 1983 !!! Edited May 25, 2023 by Covkid Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alcanman Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 3 hours ago, Covkid said: 25245 was a trusty dual braked workhorse and was an all round favourite of mine. It was also "special" as it had the Royal Train comms plate on the nose ends. Here's a pic of 25245 I took at Toton on the 6th November 1982. Might be useful modelling reference for you. Looking forward to Bachmann releasing their 25s 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mophead45143 Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 Looks a pretty good match for 25057 in the period modelled to me. 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Roy Langridge Posted May 25, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 25, 2023 12 minutes ago, Mophead45143 said: Looks a pretty good match for 25057 in the period modelled to me. But that shows a seam on the front of the headcode box wing, not the back which is what I highlighted. Roy 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted May 25, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 25, 2023 Interesting mystery… Theres quite a few pictures here in Blue. https://www.derbysulzers.com/25057.html Looking at the pictures it appears to have two different headcode boxes, looking at the large grill end verses the other end. I only took one picture of it at Quorn, so dont know the other end. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BVMR21 Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 Kernow seem to have these priced at £185, which must mean they aren't far off. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium E100 Posted June 6, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 6, 2023 (edited) Definitely look like SFX type windows. Would help them to differentiate against the competition so wouldn't be surprised if they go down that route. The blue version seems to have a similar effect. https://www.kernowmodelrailcentre.com/p/59403/32-340-Bachmann-Class-25-1-Diesel-Locomotive-number-25-057 Only two models currently. Quite a small initial release if this is maintained. Edited June 6, 2023 by E100 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BVMR21 Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 Agreed it does seem to be a rather small run so hopefully we will see some more liveries announced soon. Would be good if we saw BR Green with SYP on the 25/1s. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul.Uni Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 I would guess more will be announced in November, assuming the ETA for the 2018 announced models doesn't change dramatically. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suzy Sulzer Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 2 hours ago, Paul.Uni said: I would guess more will be announced in November, assuming the ETA for the 2018 announced models doesn't change dramatically. https://www.Bachmann.co.uk/category/model-railway/branchline/diesel-locomotives Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sulzer71 Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 Full complement of pictures on the website now , don't think it looks as bad as people have been saying https://www.Bachmann.co.uk/product/category/153/class-25-1-25057-br-blue-[w]/32-340 https://www.Bachmann.co.uk/product/category/153/class-25-2-d5282-br-two-tone-green-(small-yellow-panels)/32-341 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold MikeParkin65 Posted June 28, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 28, 2023 1 hour ago, sulzer71 said: Full complement of pictures on the website now , don't think it looks as bad as people have been saying https://www.Bachmann.co.uk/product/category/153/class-25-1-25057-br-blue-[w]/32-340 https://www.Bachmann.co.uk/product/category/153/class-25-2-d5282-br-two-tone-green-(small-yellow-panels)/32-341 Dont think it looks 'bad' at all - just not as good as the SLW version and now very close in price. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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