RMweb Premium DIW Posted March 7, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 7, 2019 16 minutes ago, 34theletterbetweenB&D said: engine mode turned up to 11 It will be interesting to see if there are front-grid and mid-grid teams who will attempt this on a regular basis - they could well run out of engines well before the season ends, and lose more points in subsequently starting further back on the grid (including increased chances of involvement in first-lap pile-ups) than they gain in fastest lap points. On the other hand, if the leading teams towards the end of the season are close together points-wise, then if one has already taken an engine penalty they may well decide that the extra engine they have may be able to take the strain. One for the team strategists! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
friscopete Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 The big problem with all this is the cars are not scrutinised and have no need to be in spec anywhere except tyres (probably) .Fuel can be non spec ,aero illegal,weight was often well light ,.it happened all the time usually to impress a sponsor by getting a headline or please a team owner who knew nothing about the sport and had yet to get a rude awakening .Lower teams know roughly what the car can or cannot do anyway and most teams will know the pecking order before the car ever hits the track and even top teams need headlines to extract more money from their parent . Martin formerly the artist known as alfsboy.. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 42 minutes ago, 34theletterbetweenB&D said: Trivial with respect to the championship. Yes it's a point, but realistically it's a point for a non-contending team/driver in any given race to grab. The method would be a late well timed tyre change aiming to get a mighty tow with DRS deployed over the start/finish line (probably by cooperating team mate) into a traffic free lap window for an all out effort, on nearly new tyres selected on the basis of maximum grip for that day's conditions, and the car with a light fuel load, engine mode turned up to 11 and possibly front wing effect backed off a little for lower drag. Yawn. Yes we know you can go much faster with multiple factors in optimum state. Who do we think will most enjoy this chance to take it to the max? It's still 21 Points over a Season, so still much to gain from a Championship place, say the difference between 2nd or 3rd in the Driver Table. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium njee20 Posted March 7, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 7, 2019 16 minutes ago, friscopete said: The big problem with all this is the cars are not scrutinised and have no need to be in spec anywhere except tyres (probably) .Fuel can be non spec ,aero illegal,weight was often well light ,.it happened all the time usually to impress a sponsor by getting a headline or please a team owner who knew nothing about the sport and had yet to get a rude awakening .Lower teams know roughly what the car can or cannot do anyway and most teams will know the pecking order before the car ever hits the track and even top teams need headlines to extract more money from their parent . Martin formerly the artist known as alfsboy.. Of course they have to be in spec, there have been plenty of instances of cars being penalised for infractions of rules. I'm sure some still get away with "illegal" cars, but that seems like a weird comment. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobby Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 28 minutes ago, friscopete said: The big problem with all this is the cars are not scrutinised http://www.formula1-dictionary.net/scrutineering.html Also remember that if one team seems to hold an unfair advantage the other teams can put in formal requests (complaints?) and ask the scrutineers to check the errant car out. That's been done several times in the last few years, sometimes upheld, sometimes not. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
34theletterbetweenB&D Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 7 minutes ago, Andrew P said: It's still 21 Points over a Season... But that's only 5% of the potential podium points for any given driver. Since the Mercwash began in 2014 it was only the Rosberg championship where the winner was within 5% of second place. That says to me that it will not be an advisable strategy for a truly championship competitive team, unless it's neck and neck (points totals within 1%) with about four races to go and a good equipment state on the car that can probably stand the beating. (Last desperate throw of the dice stuff.) 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium njee20 Posted March 7, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 7, 2019 Paddy Lowe not coming back. Well there's the smallest shock this season! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
friscopete Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 3 hours ago, njee20 said: Of course they have to be in spec, there have been plenty of instances of cars being penalised for infractions of rules. I'm sure some still get away with "illegal" cars, but that seems like a weird comment. not at tests 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 Now with both Paddy Lowe and Rob Smedley gone from Williams, just who will be running the technical side? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted March 7, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 7, 2019 24 minutes ago, Andrew P said: Now with both Paddy Lowe and Rob Smedley gone from Williams, just who will be running the technical side? A difficult stage of the season to be headhunting a seasoned engineer, rather than recruiting new blood - everyone of note already has a job! We have no idea of the constraints, not least financial, under which the 2019 car was designed and manufactured. The departees may have found the environment impossible. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium njee20 Posted March 7, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 7, 2019 2 hours ago, friscopete said: not at tests Oh I see, well yeah fair enough, but everyone knows the test results aren’t to be relied on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Richard E Posted March 7, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 7, 2019 3 hours ago, friscopete said: not at tests And we all know that the teams don't run the new car at tests so that they can sort out any problems before going racing ... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 At last some info from C4 F1 https://f1.channel4.com/ https://www.channel4.com/programmes/formula-1 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
34theletterbetweenB&D Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 On 07/03/2019 at 18:33, Oldddudders said: A difficult stage of the season to be headhunting a seasoned engineer, rather than recruiting new blood - everyone of note already has a job! ... Then again there has to be new talent out there that needs an opportunity. I can see the headline now: Most Improved F1 Car this Season Redesigned by Intern. She's getting a salary now. Dr XXXX XXXXX saw the report that Wiliams had lost its technical leadership. Her academic career up to that time had been based on study of the rules governing F1 car design, and she had become convinced that there were several unexploited opportunities in the sport. The death of a close relative had provided a modest inheritance which she used to buy a flight to the UK, where she offered her design leadership services to Wiliams free of charge; and on being accepted, used the money that was left to rent a small flat nearby.... 3 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 An interesting read from Paddy Lowe, prior to his departure from Williams. https://www.racefans.net/2019/03/13/what-you-shouldnt-do-is-get-rid-of-people-paddy-lowes-testing-qa-in-full/ 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 Some interesting facts on Pay TV and the New C4 Line Up and their restrictions etc. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/47542802 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium njee20 Posted March 13, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 13, 2019 Interesting the first race(s) are on Sky One. Have never bothered to pay for Sky F1, but do get Sky One, so will have to watch both! Hadn’t realised the stupid stipulations put on C4 by Sky. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Jonboy Posted March 14, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 14, 2019 R.I.P Charlie Whiting: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/47564762 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
micklner Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 Very sad news , F1 will struggle to to replace him. R.I.P 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 Yes bit of a shock and very sad about Charlie at a fairly young age. RIP. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 57xx Posted March 14, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 14, 2019 That was very sad news to wake up to. RIP Charlie. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Storey Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 16 hours ago, Andrew P said: Some interesting facts on Pay TV and the New C4 Line Up and their restrictions etc. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/47542802 This quote says it all to me: F1 chief executive Chase Carey, incidentally, is on the board of Sky UK No longer can they say they are the victim of what was done before Liberty took over. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Radford Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 If you are on TalkTalk or similar TV package (?Virgin) please note that Sunday's GP is live on Sky 1 at 5:05am (Start time 5:10) and repeated at 8:00am. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 57xx Posted March 14, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 14, 2019 17 hours ago, Andrew P said: Some interesting facts on Pay TV and the New C4 Line Up and their restrictions etc. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/47542802 Can't say I'll miss Chandhok or Wolff from the C4 lineup. These restrictions Sky have imposed seem to look like them hammering nails in the coffin of the free to air highlights. Quote Sky has imposed a series of restrictions on C4 in the contract for the highlights races, which will affect both the race coverage itself, and what happens around it. For example, only 50% of the total running time of C4's programme can now be taken up by the on-track coverage - down from between 60-70% last year. They are not allowed to do interviews in what is known as the 'pen' - where all the drivers are taken to do a round-robin of broadcasters after qualifying and race - or in the pit lane. Any 'pen' interviews they use will have to come from Sky. The amount of interviews C4 can do in the paddock is restricted. And they have been forbidden from doing a 'grid walk'. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dvdlcs Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 I have been of the opinion that the C4 line-up was rather overstaffed. Susie Wolff and Eddie Jordan would have been the first two off the bus, had I been in charge :-) Not even sure what Steve Jones brings - I do think that Coulthard and Webber as a pair could run the show. I was OK with Karun doing the technical / strategic stuff. As for the Sky deal, yes Sky seem to intend showing the first few (three) races on Sky One as well, presumably as a teaser to try and persuade people to subscribe to the F1 channel. What struck me was that C4 are not allowed to do interviews with people in the press pen, and that the race footage can be no more than 50% of the shows airtime. So presumably the other half of the show will be showing interviews that Sky have done/shown, or talking heads. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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