Popular Post Ruston Posted January 25, 2022 Author Popular Post Share Posted January 25, 2022 (edited) Making progress with the scene as a whole. It doesn't seem right to take a brand new wagon and chop it up, but that's what I've done. Then again we spend more than the cost of a wagon on other scenic features and as it's integral to the scene it doesn't seem so bad. The photo on Paul Bartlett's site shows that the wagon floor and part of the sides are still attached to the underframes, as if the body has been flame-cut off before the remains were inverted. It took some thinking about to be able to make the cut look ragged as if it had been flame-cut and in the end I came up with the idea of attacking it from the inside with a burr in a mini drill. A thinned oily-looking mix was painted on the springs as if oil has leaked out of the axleboxes. Parts of previous dismembered victims lie around. The rest of the wagon's body, and more, will be added in due course. Changing the wheelsets for P4 items will improve the appearance here. Edited May 11, 2022 by Ruston 10 1 7 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium magmouse Posted January 25, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 25, 2022 The flame cut edge looks great - very impressive. I agree using P4 wheels will make a big difference too. Perhaps also replace the tie bars between the axle guards with brass or nickel silver strip, for added delicacy? Nick. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Northmoor Posted January 25, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 25, 2022 Once again Dave, exceptional work. As you've said, using an old wagon with pizza-cutter wheels and mis-aligned brake gear just doesn't achieve the right effect. As I once read about modelling scrapyards, you cannot create something realistic by just emptying the scrapbox; like anything else it requires care and forethought. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruston Posted January 25, 2022 Author Share Posted January 25, 2022 (edited) I am much happier with this part of the layout, even though it isn't finished, than I was with how it used to be. It looks better and now gives added operational interest by having the need to move wagons from what is now the storage road (where the Bogie Bolster is in he background) to the wagon cutting area. The end of the storage road, and the former cutting area, can now be used for storing out of use locomotives. Edited May 11, 2022 by Ruston 18 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Ruston Posted January 27, 2022 Author Popular Post Share Posted January 27, 2022 "I'm gonna need a bigger brush". The idea here isn't to have a massive pile of scrap, as in the other area of the yard. It's more that they cut a couple of wagons and their remains are loaded into a wagon before any more are cut. The smaller parts are fixed in place but the inverted wagon will be loose, so that it can perhaps be exchanged for a different one in future. Or even for a locomotive in the process of being scrapped. I have more tippler bodies to chop up as wagon loads. These are left overs from when I used their underframes to make Coil C and Coil J wagons. 12 9 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruston 48DS Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 The scrap looks excellent Ruston, I feel sorry for the guy with the broom. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cctransuk Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 1 hour ago, Ruston 48DS said: The scrap looks excellent Ruston, I feel sorry for the guy with the broom. My experience of scrapyards - George Cohen's at Cransley, Kettering - was that the last thing that you'd find there would be a brush !! Any 'tidying-up' would be done by a clapped-out front loader. John Isherwood. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
F-UnitMad Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 Just wondering re the upturned wagon chassis - having gone to the trouble of P4 wheels earlier, if the chassis sans wheels looks a bit odd now, with the inside of the axleboxes exposed, and quite clearly being 'solid', and designed for pinpoint axles? It detracts a bit from the scene. Just a thought.... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruston Posted January 28, 2022 Author Share Posted January 28, 2022 28 minutes ago, F-UnitMad said: Just wondering re the upturned wagon chassis - having gone to the trouble of P4 wheels earlier, if the chassis sans wheels looks a bit odd now, with the inside of the axleboxes exposed, and quite clearly being 'solid', and designed for pinpoint axles? It detracts a bit from the scene. Just a thought.... I haven't got the P4 wheels yet so it's still unfinished. The wheels shown previously were the Hornby wheels that the wagon came with. I need to wait until I need some loco wheels from Gibson's before I put in an order. There's no point in wasting postage costs for a couple of axles worth of wheels. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
F-UnitMad Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 2 hours ago, Ruston said: I haven't got the P4 wheels yet so it's still unfinished. The wheels shown previously were the Hornby wheels that the wagon came with. Ah!! Looking back now at the relevant photo I can see the wheels are a lot coarser than they will be in P4, but as it is some decades since I last looked at Hornby wheels, I must say that they have improved somewhat from what I remember!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Ruston Posted January 29, 2022 Author Popular Post Share Posted January 29, 2022 (edited) I've had a few Bachmann 16-ton minerals, of the independent brake type, for a while but haven't used them as traffic vehicles because I can't find photos of them in regular use in the 1970s. The survivors seem to have been sold into industry or transferred to departmental use. I have finished them as Civil Engineer's vehicles that have finally reached the end of their useful lives. They are based on one that I have seen a photo of. It was lettered in the same way but with Kings X in place of Wigan. I just happened to have some transfers with DCE Wigan on them. Edited May 11, 2022 by Ruston 18 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruston Posted January 30, 2022 Author Share Posted January 30, 2022 (edited) Today's task was to make some use of a wagon that I bought a while ago. Before Christmas there were a load of Dapol/Airfix 16-ton minerals on sale in my local model shop for £3 a piece. Someone had built them all to instructions but had fitted 3-links. They were painted but none were numbered or otherwise finished. I bought one as the wheels and couplings were worth that alone. I repainted and weathered it, cut off the naff door hinges and brakes. I raided my parts box and found various parts to enable some better brakes to be fitted and as another independent-braked example. Edited May 11, 2022 by Ruston 16 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Ruston Posted February 4, 2022 Author Popular Post Share Posted February 4, 2022 (edited) The Shelby Group purchased a pair of 1940s diesel shunting locos that were put out to tender by the M.O.D. as surplus. One went to the quarries in Derbyshire, whilst one remained as a hire loco and occasionally shunted Watery Lane and Charlie Strong's sidings. Edited May 11, 2022 by Ruston 22 5 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sb67 Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 Just had a catch up of your thread and I got to say the latest scrap scene looks fantastic! Cracking weathering making every bit of metal and the wagon underframe look solid and heavy! Really love this layout. 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruston Posted February 22, 2022 Author Share Posted February 22, 2022 (edited) The next work to be done on the layout will have to be an extension to the FY. It's becoming rather cramped and the shelf above left is also full of wagons. Apart from being generally too small, the other problem is that not all tracks are accessible from both scenic tracks. The two tracks entering the FY go to a pair of Wye points, of which one has a RH point. This means that two tracks can only access the outer curve and two the inner. Because the inner is so tight some wagons really aren't suited to it and the current set up limits movements, especially propelling moves by BR engines. I am going to alter it so that everything meets at a single entry/exit point and then all tracks will be accessible from both inner and outer curves. This means also moving a large wall-mounted cabinet to the right of the FY. Edited May 11, 2022 by Ruston 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
F-UnitMad Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 "There is no such thing as 'Too many Mineral Wagons' ". Discuss. 3 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted February 22, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 22, 2022 Just now, F-UnitMad said: "There is no such thing as 'Too many Mineral Wagons' ". Discuss. Or indeed wagons of any kind! Mike. 2 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sb67 Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 A fine collection of rolling stock there 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
F-UnitMad Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 22 hours ago, F-UnitMad said: "There is no such thing as 'Too many Mineral Wagons' ". Discuss. 15 minutes ago, sb67 said: A fine collection of rolling stock there It's a doctrine I actually firmly believe in, which can also be extended to Locomotives & Brake Vans (or Cabooses in my other life ). What I like about Dave's collection of 16 tonners is that no two of them are the same. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruston Posted February 23, 2022 Author Share Posted February 23, 2022 11 minutes ago, F-UnitMad said: What I like about Dave's collection of 16 tonners is that no two of them are the same. They are mostly modelled from photos of actual wagons and carry the actual numbers to match the photos. I may invent frivolous things, such as locomotive liveries, but 16-ton minerals must be taken seriously. 23 hours ago, F-UnitMad said: "There is no such thing as 'Too many Mineral Wagons' ". I used to think that but when they take up every road on your FY you start to think differently. Mind you, I still have four in the works and a pair of Diagram 1/100 minerals that may or may not donate their underframes to the (re)builds of 24-ton hoppers. 6 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mol_PMB Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 13 minutes ago, Ruston said: They are mostly modelled from photos of actual wagons and carry the actual numbers to match the photos. I may invent frivolous things, such as locomotive liveries, but 16-ton minerals must be taken seriously. I totally agree! Mine are all going to be different too. I take it a step further and only model ones that I can prove visited the MSC Railway, either with a photo or a wagon label as evidence. It's the only way I can limit how many wagons I build! The trouble is, I've already got too many wagons and what I really need to prioritise is finishing the locos to pull them, followed by a bigger trainset so there is space for more than 5 in a train. Simpler to start another wagon than worry about such things... 3 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Ruston Posted March 10, 2022 Author Popular Post Share Posted March 10, 2022 (edited) I had a play with the layout, and the new Hornby Sentinel, plus new wagons off the workbench, last night. It was the first proper run for the Sentinel as it didn't run properly after I put it all back together. I tracked the problem down to a faulty Stay Alive, which wasn't working and was also causing random short circuits. I replaced it and it's all fine now. The Metal Box works is now receiving strip coil from Ebbw Vale wrapped in blue plastic. Edited May 11, 2022 by Ruston 18 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Sweet pea Posted March 10, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 10, 2022 Ruston the sentinel does look great. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandhole Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 2 hours ago, Ruston said: I had a play with the layout, and the new Hornby Sentinel, plus new wagons off the workbench, last night. It was the first proper run for the Sentinel as it didn't run properly after I put it all back together. I tracked the problem down to a faulty Stay Alive, which wasn't working and was also causing random short circuits. I replaced it and it's all fine now. The Metal Box works is now receiving strip coil from Ebbw Vale wrapped in blue plastic. As usual, Dave. Superb, Regards, Chris. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted March 10, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 10, 2022 On 23/02/2022 at 19:23, Mol_PMB said: The trouble is, I've already got too many wagons Impossible. Mike. 1 2 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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