RMweb Gold chuffinghell Posted January 19 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 19 Also have other uses! 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Fatadder Posted January 19 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 19 53 minutes ago, Bluemonkey presents.... said: I believe these were for the transportation of Lancaster Bomber propellers primarily but ti's the war and needs must.......right 😉 I think that would still be coming out of Gloucester as what became Douty propellers was originally a JV between Bristol and Rolls Royce. There were Coastal Command Lancasters stationed in Cornwall in 47 with 203 and 210 squadron. So my thinking is a replacement prop being delivered for an in service aircraft…… Will have to get one ordered 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWolf Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 (edited) IIRC the first of the propellor wagons appeared in 1938 three years before the first Lancaster flew. Of course there were aircraft in service and development using similar props in the thirties. As a wartime RAF base in Cornwall, RAF Davidstow Moor comes to mind, there's an interesting list of aircraft amongst the history below: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAF_Davidstow_Moor Back in 2004 I was working on an engineering project at the Davidstow creamery nearby and my spare time was spent exploring the old airfield. The weather was foggy and it has to rank amongst the eeriest places I've been. Edited January 19 by MrWolf Corrected dates 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluemonkey presents.... Posted February 1 Author Share Posted February 1 With Chuffet's Aero wagons finished and waiting on news of the transfers to complete. Attentions have turned to completing a little more of the engineering side of things. A D&S Cowans 15T crane. What a flipping head scratching nightmare fir a guy with zero trains or engineering knowledge. It has taken quite a while to translate the instructions to ludite and seems the original instructions is missing a section unless there had been a linear counting failure between 4 and 6 as 5 is missing. 5 may be alive but missing in action. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlfaZagato Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 I would honestly wait on the Oxford model at that point. Save the cab. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluemonkey presents.... Posted February 2 Author Share Posted February 2 10 hours ago, AlfaZagato said: I would honestly wait on the Oxford model at that point. Save the cab. Unfortunately I am knees deep already and only just realised about the pending release. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWolf Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 11 minutes ago, Bluemonkey presents.... said: Unfortunately I am knees deep already and only just realised about the pending release. On the other hand, if you've built it yourself it's all good practice and gives you a sense of accomplishment. Plus the money already spent on the kit no longer has to be found. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Fatadder Posted February 2 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 2 Are you going to add the GW enclosed cab? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluemonkey presents.... Posted February 2 Author Share Posted February 2 1 hour ago, The Fatadder said: Are you going to add the GW enclosed cab? Hi Rich, I'm goinging to give it a go but the picture I have is of an extended roof to the crane sides with extra sides on the front bit of the roof as supports. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Fatadder Posted February 2 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 2 Look forward to seeing how it comes out, I am planning to get the Oxford one, but I think it will also need major modifications to the cab to match the example that was at Newton Abbot. It will then be able to run along with my Bachmann one on its way to a civil engineering job... 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluemonkey presents.... Posted February 4 Author Share Posted February 4 Fiddly and burny fingers to solder all up together. Forming the etched wraps was fun using a bench vice guides as the curved formers, who needs those expensive rolling bars 😁 Next to prime it up to see what I have missed, burnt fingers crossed nothing is up. 5 6 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Mikkel Posted February 5 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 5 That does look like a bit of a challenge, nice result. Looking at the photo you posted above, there are some challenging shapes there! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluemonkey presents.... Posted February 5 Author Share Posted February 5 17 minutes ago, Mikkel said: That does look like a bit of a challenge, nice result. Looking at the photo you posted above, there are some challenging shapes there! Thank you. It certainly was a challenge to make the curves nice and smooth and then solder the very thin brass keeping all the panels soldered up. Happy with the result though. The tails of the crane body is too tight a fit between the tanks so will need a little reduction before marrying up. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluemonkey presents.... Posted February 6 Author Share Posted February 6 Fun little things to make by hand. Completely identical but will never see both together at comparative angles again. 4 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluemonkey presents.... Posted February 13 Author Share Posted February 13 Well the love, hate relationship continues! Love the outstanding detail, hate the instructions are for more a knowledgeable builder and takes forever to translate. I also note that the D&S instruction contradict the Brassmasters instructions regarding livery. So that long debate can fly again; BLACK or GREY? 🤣🤣🤣🤣 (I know where I am standing on this one) 11 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 57xx Posted February 14 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 14 On 02/02/2024 at 08:56, Bluemonkey presents.... said: Unfortunately I am knees deep already and only just realised about the pending release. The sooner you finish this, the sooner Oxford will release theirs and we can get our pre-orders. 😂 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluemonkey presents.... Posted February 28 Author Share Posted February 28 Unfortunately I am yet to hear anything regarding the basic transfers for the Aero Wagons, yes , no, maybe or even offski! Hope everything is OK with the business as there have been many recent casualties and would be sad to see another firm hit the skids and disappear. Been trying to focus on this Cowan Steam Crane. Got everything together and some things have been primed and the gears painted a little more. Just working out how to attack the roof element. I see that Brassmasters used to do a detailing kit for this which included the roof (I believe) but seems this is no longer produced/sold and they have also stepped back on their products and sales. Whilst considering how to go about this I decided to start the runner from Brassmasters, a fiddly job. Sadly not really enjoying this build and almost wish I had built my own. However we are where we are and again probably half way through it now, just have to remain motivated. I guess I will have to source suitable transfers/plates elsewhere for these. Shame really as I notice 3-D rivets are also now available to replace the seemingly defunct Archers series. 1 2 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Fatadder Posted February 28 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 28 5 minutes ago, Bluemonkey presents.... said: I see that Brassmasters used to do a detailing kit for this which included the roof (I believe) but seems this is no longer produced/sold and they have also stepped back on their products and sales. Did this ever hit the market? I seem to recall it was one of those kits that sat in perpetual development, but all that materialised was the runner wagon. Once the Oxford model finally appears I am going to have to build the runner (all be it my current thinking is erring toward 3d printing rather than the kit (assuming its even still available). Will no doubt end up taking that route for the crane's cab assuming the Oxford version doesnt have it. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluemonkey presents.... Posted February 28 Author Share Posted February 28 1 minute ago, The Fatadder said: Did this ever hit the market? I seem to recall it was one of those kits that sat in perpetual development, but all that materialised was the runner wagon. Once the Oxford model finally appears I am going to have to build the runner (all be it my current thinking is erring toward 3d printing rather than the kit (assuming its even still available). Will no doubt end up taking that route for the crane's cab assuming the Oxford version doesnt have it. From what I have seen whilst trying to find reasonable pictures of crane parts and gears the Oxford may have a roof but not the complete surrounding one that GWR versions had but I guess this could easily have changed since the model was first announced. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Mikkel Posted March 1 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 1 (edited) On 28/02/2024 at 14:45, Bluemonkey presents.... said: Sadly not really enjoying this build and almost wish I had built my own. Hi Matt. The build looks really good though. Is it not a good design? Edited March 2 by Mikkel Forgot the adjective! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluemonkey presents.... Posted March 1 Author Share Posted March 1 1 hour ago, Mikkel said: Hi Matt. The build looks really though. Is it not a good design? Morning, Well I am not a skilled designer or overly experienced on how to start a kit design but I have build a few kits. This one seems overly fiddly and in places almost doing things just because as opposed to adding to the model. To me it feels like the construction materials and methods are purposely challenging even to produce a half decent model. An example would be the solebars which are constructed from a base floor and two thin strips to for the side and bottom of the channel rather than half etched fold lines to create a strong channel, (one which does not risk de-soldering when sweating the numerous rivet strips or the half etched floor top. The headstock has been chosen to be folded instead. To me this is the wrong way around and one that causes the modeller many frustrations and difficulties both in producing the part and with later construction. In my opinion it is not a wagon that should offer too much of a challenge nor put people off by just reviewing the etches and instructions but it does. Even the instructions are at odds with the kit. First page, nice big picture of the runner with the caption, "Note: The above photo is of no. 211, a similar but different diagram from the kit" it goes on to explain the primary differences. They later go on to direct the builder that the runner should be in full black livery, no mention of long debate on grey v black. Incidentally the crane directs the modeller to grey livery. I appreciate that this can be down to experience, skill and/or knowledge of the modeller but I have made various brass kits including many from the Falcon range and this one has not been pleasurable nor fills me with motivation to either seek further from the range or other brass kits. Couple with the torment of the crane kit and instructions, it truly is a wonder how these are still on the bench and not the bin! I have another P-Way project planned which I am looking forward to so that's currently my motivation. It has been planned for a few years but has had to take it's place in the build queue, unfortunately someone else has also recently made of these prototypes, not the same way I propose but all the same a bit of a blow as I now appear to be following/copying, never mind at least I have the riding coach built. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluemonkey presents.... Posted March 1 Author Share Posted March 1 I also have some milk traffic to bash up which is of real interest and excitement not to mention the layout 🫢 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Mikkel Posted March 2 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 2 Thanks for the explanation Matt, must be frustrating. The other P-Way project sounds intriguing. I wouldn't worry that someone else got there first, doesn't make it less interesting as I see it. Regarding milk traffic, here is what @Annie calls a cheer-up picture to help beat the blues 🙂 Caption: Loading the Milk Train, 9th February 1928. source: Getty images, embedding allowed. 6 1 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluemonkey presents.... Posted March 2 Author Share Posted March 2 Cracking picture, thank you. Personally can not stand the stuff but modelling wise cannot get enough. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluemonkey presents.... Posted March 2 Author Share Posted March 2 Construction wise for the runner maybe I should have glued some of the more fiddly bits but soldered everything instead. Would have been easier and probably nicer. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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