Edwardian Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 One wonders how many of the 148 are the apparently decent principled Parliamentarians of the ilk the BBC has found to interview in recent days and how many are 'Absolute Morons' of the Brexit-Libertatian wing who now don't like Boris because, despite some pretty illiberal laws of late, he represents the liberal wing of the party who is presiding over nasty socialist policies like raising taxes, taxing business, easing, albeit slightly, the burdens suffered by the people. In some ways it is a pity there was a vote, because this event has overshadowed what should have been the decisive moment in the PM's downward trajectory; being booed by the royalist crowds when he arrived at the thanksgiving service for HMQ. That was probably the judgment that counted. 4 5 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
32475 Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 6 hours ago, monkeysarefun said: If a photo op on a bike with a more svelte buddy is the sign of things to come, I fear our new PM is heading the same way. The first photo of BJ on a Boris Bike has been cropped for political reasons by BJ's Press Office. You will notice that the stabilisers are not visible. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocor Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 2 hours ago, 32475 said: The first photo of BJ on a Boris Bike has been cropped for political reasons by BJ's Press Office. You will notice that the stabilisers are not visible. It is not bike stabilizers that Boris needs, but mood stabilizers in the form of antipsychotic drugs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Regularity Posted June 7, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 7, 2022 4 minutes ago, rocor said: but mood stabilizers in the form of antipsychotic drugs. But they’re not the same thing. Which isn’t to say he doesn’t need both. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alastairq Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 I firmly believe there is a secret plot to introduce 'behaviour-modification' drugs into those expensive air fresheners advertised on telly [seen when I accidentally leave the telly on whilst making a cuppa] They started off by flogging us 'behaviour modification' smellies for our pets..[ Feliway, etc???} Now, who is to say they're not doing the same thing with our Airwicks, and Febreze plug-ins? Perhaps that might explain certain recent public behaviors? ['Recent', as in not when I was a young 'un?} Perhaps Boris has Airwicks all over the place? Do they use Febreze in the House f Commons? Are we all being gassed into compliance? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hroth Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 9 minutes ago, alastairq said: I firmly believe there is a secret plot to introduce 'behaviour-modification' drugs into those expensive air fresheners advertised on telly [seen when I accidentally leave the telly on whilst making a cuppa] They started off by flogging us 'behaviour modification' smellies for our pets..[ Feliway, etc???} Now, who is to say they're not doing the same thing with our Airwicks, and Febreze plug-ins? Its probably being trialled already.... BB! BB! BB!!! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted June 7, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 7, 2022 4 hours ago, Edwardian said: One wonders how many of the 148 are the apparently decent principled Parliamentarians of the ilk the BBC has found to interview in recent days and how many are 'Absolute Morons' of the Brexit-Libertatian wing who now don't like Boris because, despite some pretty illiberal laws of late, he represents the liberal wing of the party who is presiding over nasty socialist policies like raising taxes, taxing business, easing, albeit slightly, the burdens suffered by the people. It has been pointed out that if one makes the dubious assumption that all those with Government positions voted for Johnson, the 148 who voted against are three-quarters of the backbenchers and hence by definition members of the two divisions* of the Conservative Party that you mention. *I had to give some thought to the word to use here. If they are "wings" then the party must be a creature anatomically incapable of flight, having more wings than Isaiah's seraphs; "factions" certainly describes the Steve Baker-ites but is altogether too impassioned to describe the "principled parliamentarians". (Who are they, by the way?) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardian Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 15 minutes ago, Compound2632 said: the "principled parliamentarians". (Who are they, by the way?) Those that appear to me to be the more thoughtful, measured, less point-scoring or vitriolic whose critique tends to stress constitutional propriety, rule of law, integrity, principle over populism, all the boring stuff Boris hates Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted June 7, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 7, 2022 4 minutes ago, Edwardian said: Those that appear to me to be the more thoughtful, measured, less point-scoring or vitriolic whose critique tends to stress constitutional propriety, rule of law, integrity, principle over populism, all the boring stuff Boris hates Yes, that's a description. It's examples I've been struggling to find. I'm sure there must be some but I suspect they don't make good television. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocor Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 One indication of a principled parliamentarian, would be to see how many times they have resisted the will of the whips. https://www.theyworkforyou.com/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nearholmer Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 (edited) They do put them on the wireless. I heard two or three yesterday who were calmly, politely, and forensically pointing out the damage to ‘civic society’, our national reputation abroad (somewhere between self-defeating clown and psychotic madman?), and the function of the constitution, as well as the fact that the man is simply a serial liar. Later, Emma Thornberry did much the same, and despite the difference of party, the message was identical. I do think that a significant number of Tory MPs and erstwhile Tory voters do get this. Edited June 7, 2022 by Nearholmer 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted June 7, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 7, 2022 5 minutes ago, rocor said: One indication of a principled parliamentarian, would be to see how many times they have resisted the will of the whips. Ah, Corbyn then. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nearholmer Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 Well, he does indeed have strong principles, just not ones that very many people ascribe to. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocor Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 28 minutes ago, Nearholmer said: Well, he does indeed have strong principles, just not ones that very many people ascribe to. The voters of the Parliament constituency, Islington North, have elected him as their MP since1983, so he does hold an appeal to at least some electorate. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardian Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 The Jesse Norman Letter is worth reading in full. It's not especially long and it's one MP's list of issues, but he seems to cover the reasons for principled opposition among Conservative MPs pretty well. 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocor Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 4 hours ago, Regularity said: But they’re not the same thing. Which isn’t to say he doesn’t need both. Though, some antipsychotic medications are used for the purpose of mood stabilization. https://www.mind.org.uk/information-support/drugs-and-treatments/lithium-and-other-mood-stabilisers/about-mood-stabilisers/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardian Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 (edited) Or, for a more concise critique of the current premier, ask Alexa to translate "Boris Johnson coffee bean 100" into Welsh. Also works on Google translate, if you click for the audio version. Edited June 7, 2022 by Edwardian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Burnham Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 In other news, did it stay dry for the picnic on the village green? Ours was on the recreation ground on Saturday and it didn't rain until after it was over, although perishing cold 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Regularity Posted June 7, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 7, 2022 Don’t know. Other half tested positive for Covid on Friday; I was developing symptoms. I tested such on Sunday. Great platinum jubilee weekend for us! 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardian Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 1 minute ago, Tom Burnham said: In other news, did it stay dry for the picnic on the village green? Ours was on the recreation ground on Saturday and it didn't rain until after it was over, although perishing cold We had Sunday, by far the worst day, but the rain held off and we just wore a jumper. I think I neutralised the shed issue by charm offensive on said neighbour and back channel maneuvering with the village Headwoman. Other than that, I think we got points for the Pimms I'd mixed and the splendid cake Miss T baked. We had a good time and I think we've now materially decreased the risk of villagers turning up with pitchforks and torches. 6 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hroth Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 31 minutes ago, Regularity said: Don’t know. Other half tested positive for Covid on Friday; I was developing symptoms. I tested such on Sunday. Great platinum jubilee weekend for us! It's still doing the rounds. Wishing you a brief covid and a quick recovery! 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeysarefun Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 Our PM simply vanished once. Never seen again. Can happen, just saying.. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nearholmer Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 Every government minister seems to repeat like a Dalek at every opportunity “Time to move on! Time to draw a line under it!”. Are they talking about BJ’s tenure as PM? 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nearholmer Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 Just now, monkeysarefun said: Our PM simply vanished once. Never seen again. By God! You lucky, lucky people! 1 2 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeysarefun Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 The other problem you have is that you have a actual Queen, rather than just a Queens representative, such as a Governor General. As far as I know, the Queen has no power to sack your demoratically elected government, whereas, a Governor General - who is merely the Queens representative, apparently does and did. So go find yourselves a Governor-General, job done. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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