Paul.Uni Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 (edited) 13 minutes ago, G-BOAF said: Nope. And Hornby website stating Winter 2022 for these, so realistically 12 months from now. The coming soon page currently says August 2022 Edited December 6, 2021 by Paul.Uni 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-BOAF Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 4 minutes ago, Paul.Uni said: The coming soon page currently says August 2022 The product page says "Winter 2022"!! Between this and my edited post about EP and livery samples, I'd be surprised at any 2022 date for these models. though I'm sure they will be fantastic when they arrive (assuming they get the green correct on 92220!) 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmcg Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 On 27/03/2021 at 10:37, Pufferazzi said: The images certainly suggest that it has proper frames rather than a block...with the amount of daylight under the boiler that detail would be very telling. Looks smashing ...it would nice to have a smoke feature something like this...a pic I took in february 1967 at Chinley South Junction...we could hear it for ages as the fireman threw tons on coal in to keep her going. It was like thunder and had bad steam leaks as is evident. It would be nice if our models could come alive like this...come on Hornby give us some clagg too. I am certainly looking forward to the Hornby 9F. Would it be permissable for me to edit-adapt this pic with a model engine and other changes to perspective and so on, like moving the engine closer? With acknowledgement to you as the source? 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
meatloaf Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 Still waiting on the APT and Class 08 from 2020 and the TTS Deltic and 47s from this year. Seems to have gone quiet on the deltic, 47 and 08 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hilux5972 Posted December 7, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 7, 2021 5 hours ago, robmcg said: I am certainly looking forward to the Hornby 9F. I am too. Have 92220 and 92197 in order. My Bachmann 92220 will be retired into its wooden presentation box once Hornbys arrives. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul.Uni Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 On 06/12/2021 at 14:10, G-BOAF said: The product page says "Winter 2022"!! Now they say 'Summer 2022'. The coming soon page still says 'August 2022' 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pre Grouping fan Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 Latest engine shed has images of the EP sample. https://uk.Hornby.com/community/blog-and-news/engine-shed/a-star-from-the-east It looks good to me, flickering firebox and a diecast boiler should make it a good puller 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hilux5972 Posted January 5, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 5, 2022 (edited) The new 9F looks stunning. All that metal in the boiler should produce a fantastic hauler. Zooming in closer to some pics, does look like the frames are open to a degree and it’s not just a big lump of metal. Be interesting to see if they get any internal valve gear detail in there. Obviously the gearbox/worm gear comes down inside the firebox, and it looks well done. Can’t see an extra blob of anything sticking out like the 28xx had that was fairly conspicuous, especially on the green versions. The 9F definitely looks like it will set new levels of detail for Hornby. Edited January 5, 2022 by Hilux5972 Added image 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scots region Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 29 minutes ago, Hilux5972 said: The new 9F looks stunning. All that metal in the boiler should produce a fantastic hauler. Zooming in closer to some pics, does look like the frames are open to a degree and it’s not just a big lump of metal. Be interesting to see if they get any internal valve gear detail in there. Obviously the gearbox/worm gear comes down inside the firebox, and it looks well done. Can’t see an extra blob of anything sticking out like the 28xx had that was fairly conspicuous, especially on the green versions. The 9F definitely looks like it will set new levels of detail for Hornby. 9Fs didn’t have any internal valve gear, mind you, even a representation of a frame spacer would be impressive. 2 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold RedgateModels Posted January 5, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 5, 2022 Oh my poor wallet…… 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivor the engine Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 Given that the driving wheel centres for 9fs are a constant 5 feet 5 inches apart, the enlarged photographs posted above, do not appear to reflect this. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExJason Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 53 minutes ago, ivor the engine said: Given that the driving wheel centres for 9fs are a constant 5 feet 5 inches apart, the enlarged photographs posted above, do not appear to reflect this. It's hard to tell but I think it could just be an illusion due to the wheels having generous side play and not being aligned. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 1 hour ago, ivor the engine said: Given that the driving wheel centres for 9fs are a constant 5 feet 5 inches apart, the enlarged photographs posted above, do not appear to reflect this. As expected. The normal modelling 9F compromise in wheelbase to accommodate the oversize 00 wheel flanges. Aftermarket 9F chassis kits also reflected this apart from the P4 Bradwell jobby. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hilux5972 Posted January 5, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 5, 2022 Just now, Porcy Mane said: As expected. The normal modelling 9F compromise in wheelbase to accommodate the oversize 00 wheel flanges. Aftermarket 9F chassis kits also reflected this apart from the P4 Bradwell jobby. Unfortunately they have to make sure the locos work for everyone so they can’t just cater for the high end finescale modellers. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 1 minute ago, Hilux5972 said: Unfortunately they have to make sure the locos work for everyone so they can’t just cater for the high end finescale modellers. As I said, "it's expected" (and accepted). All part of the necessary manufacturer compromises. Still looks to be shaping up to a fine attempt. Who knows, I may be tempted to go for one myself? If I'm still here when it finally arrives. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hilux5972 Posted January 5, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 5, 2022 Now is it just me, a trick of the light, or something actually built in, but does anyone else thing the inside of the firebox looks like it has a brick arch or inner firebox representation? Am I being overly optimistic there? 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 12 minutes ago, Hilux5972 said: but does anyone else thing the inside of the firebox looks like it has a brick arch or inner firebox representation? More like a fast breeder nuclear reactor the way the entire backhead is aglow. 1 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted January 6, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 6, 2022 (edited) It looks like Hornby have been listening when it comes to the driving wheels.. that tyre is looking much better than some other china made steam locos. They need to work on the front pony though… that front pony let down the 1979 model and the recent Crosti. The firebox glow needs reducing from the moulten lava glow effect down to a more reasonable 600 degrees… if not the back of the firebox is going to melt ! But all round it looks a good effort. Edited January 6, 2022 by adb968008 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-BOAF Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 (edited) 20 hours ago, ivor the engine said: Given that the driving wheel centres for 9fs are a constant 5 feet 5 inches apart, the enlarged photographs posted above, do not appear to reflect this. Hmm, yes this photo does suggest that the distnance from the wheel centre of the flangeless wheel to its neighbours is less than between the two outer axles.... Quite how this will appear whee the brake detail is fitted between the wheels remains to be seen. The gaps between the flanges appear somewhat generous so I do wonder whey they could not have been moved a little closer together (assuming the middle three axles are scale spaced). What did Bachmann do in this regard in terms of spacing compromise? I don't have either of my Bachmann models my model to hand at the moment I don't think I would have noticed it without it being pointed out, but now its in mind... Rest of the model really looks absolutely fantastic EDIT - looking back at the CAD images, the difference in wheel centres was there as well. Just noone on here noticed it... damn... Edited January 6, 2022 by G-BOAF 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hilux5972 Posted January 6, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 6, 2022 4 hours ago, G-BOAF said: What did Bachmann do in this regard in terms of spacing compromise? I don't have either of my Bachmann models my model to hand at the moment Looking at my Bachmann model, it does look like the wheels are all evenly spaced. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold RedgateModels Posted January 6, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 6, 2022 Checking my R861 and it seems that the first and fifth drivers have always been kicked out by a small amount. Hornby have clearly just carried it through from the ‘70s version Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-BOAF Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 Other locos in the Hornby stable have closer interfacing flanges that the 9F would have if they prototypically spaced. e.g. first and middle drivers on a Star Class... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-BOAF Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 On 05/01/2022 at 14:25, scots region said: 9Fs didn’t have any internal valve gear, mind you, even a representation of a frame spacer would be impressive. My guess is that the frame spacer is actually too low down to be modelling accurately (see flickr picture below). I would further venture to say that there is no way the human eyeball could get to the right angle on a 4mm scale model to ever see spacers. To have them moulded higher would, imho be as wrong as not having them. But this is really starting to split hairs. The very fact that the tops of the frames are recessed (and hopefully painted red on the inside faces....?) is a step change on previous models. 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
maico Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 The engine shed says it has a die-cast body. Can you see it? Normally the metal boilers on the likes of the B12, Drummond 700 etc. are unfinished zinc alloy on the final pre-production samples. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 14 minutes ago, maico said: The engine shed says it has a die-cast body. Can you see it? No but there is evidence of texture. Maybe it has been airbrushed black to try and disguise the very obvious tooling mark down the full lengths of the firebox, smokebox & boiler. To my eyes other than that compromise, it's looking good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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