cheesysmith Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 Just noticed this bit- 2 X WYPTE Red/Cream (Regional & Arriva) 2 X Regional Railways Does this mean thses will have the original headlights? The original red with the original headlights is the version I`m waiting for, and will it include the original seating? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bouncy Bouncy Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 Having seen the attention to detail on the Northern 144, I would expect yes would be the answer to all of those questions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
charliepetty Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 (edited) Sorry Charlie have I read this right? ALL the 144's are coming out before the 143's? If so I need to hunt down the RR one! The order should be: 144: 2 X Northern 2 X Metro (Arriva & Northern) 143: 2 X Arriva Trains Wales 2 X First GW 144: 1 X Northern (Named) + Updated ariel. 143: 2 X Visit Bristol 2 X Valley Lines (Named) 144: 2 X WYPTE Red/Cream (Regional & Arriva) + Bus Seating 2 X Regional Railways + Bus Seating 143: 2 X Regional Railways (Named) + Bus Seating 2 X Tyne & Wear PTE + Bus Seating 144: Original WY Metro Red & Cream + Bus Seating 143: 2 X Provincial + Bus Seating 2 X Provincial (Bathgate-Edinburgh) + Bus Seating Edited July 16, 2012 by charliepetty 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Rossington Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 so the RR ones won't be out for a while? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Black Hat Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 I had my orders for the ones I was wanting but the shop sadly closed.... Charlie, whats the chance of a combination deal for 144/143 model and a Biffo sound chip? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stug Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 All orders placed before 01/08/12 will get them at £100.00 ...<Quickly orders two!>.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 Brilliant. Thanks for that Charlie I look forward to the first arrivals Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
charliepetty Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 I had my orders for the ones I was wanting but the shop sadly closed.... Charlie, whats the chance of a combination deal for 144/143 model and a Biffo sound chip? The cost is a 144 & a Legoman decoder. £100 + £105 We plan to do some sound ones at some stage. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
charliepetty Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 ALL orders placed before 31 July will be at £100 for the 144, confirmation of this will be sent for ALL online orders. Charlie PPS The Website does now say £110. But RM Webbers can save a TENNER if your quick. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Garry D100 Posted July 20, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 20, 2012 Are the RR versions available for preordering with the discount, i cant find where. The websites i find dont list the RR versions. Thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
charliepetty Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 (edited) Are the RR versions available for preordering with the discount, i cant find where. The websites i find dont list the RR versions. Thanks. The Class 144 units will be £110 from August, orders before £100. The 143s are not planned till the 144 in on sale so we cannot promise holding prices on this version as we are uncertain as yet to when it will be available. Current 143 orders placed and new orders will be £110. Sorry but the Chinese have more reverse gears on their cars than forward ones! Charlie Edited July 21, 2012 by charliepetty Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
charliepetty Posted August 26, 2012 Share Posted August 26, 2012 Final Production Sample arrived (Unpainted) for running and DCC evaluation. Currently testing over Peco Track, all types and seems fine. Running speeds are greatly improved with tweaking of gearboxes & drive train, now overtakes Bachmann 158s. The front lighting is sorted and now is spot on, probably the only UK model with correct daytime running (1 X Left Hand Bright White & 1 X Right Hand Dull White). At Skipton this weekend and no DCC layouts so that part will have to wait while Blackburn this weekend coming. We are still running late but thing are now hotting up. Livery samples awaited. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted August 26, 2012 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 26, 2012 At Skipton this weekend and no DCC layouts so that part will have to wait while Blackburn this weekend coming. Blackmill awaits...................................... Cheers, Mick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bouncy Bouncy Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 The front lighting is sorted and now is spot on, probably the only UK model with correct daytime running (1 X Left Hand Bright White & 1 X Right Hand Dull White). I must add that this arrangement is correct for Northern 144's, https://picasaweb.google.com/104319811903610082706/NorthernRailClass144#5697245125569561570, however when you come to do the 143, if you're after light accuracy, the ATW and fGW units typically have both marker lights on, along with the bright drivers light. https://picasaweb.google.com/104319811903610082706/ArrivaTrainsWales#5693906709241016418 http://www.flickr.com/photos/45220772@N06/4802209974/ Looking forward to seeing the finished product, and getting my mitts on it! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
charliepetty Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 I must add that this arrangement is correct for Northern 144's, https://picasaweb.go...245125569561570, however when you come to do the 143, if you're after light accuracy, the ATW and fGW units typically have both marker lights on, along with the bright drivers light. https://picasaweb.go...906709241016418 http://www.flickr.co...N06/4802209974/ Looking forward to seeing the finished product, and getting my mitts on it! Arriva Trains Wales ignore Group Standards for some unexplained reason, and FGW seem to roughly stick too it. That is all New light clusters should show in Daytime mode: Left Light on Left Cluster (Bright White) & Left LED Light on Right Cluster (Dull White). 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bouncy Bouncy Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 Didn't realise they were specific group standards for the display of headlights, or at least looking around at some TOC's and units, they are a fair few differences! Thanks for letting me know that though, most helpful Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Black Hat Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 Group Standards shouldnt be for just the units to. Although units are getting their former wipac light clusters changed to a LED format, this brings them into line with other upgrades to safety standards that have become neccesary for operation on the railway. Class 66, 67, etc are good examples of the same format of day and night headlight settings, and thankts to modern tec all that changes is the brightness on some lights to work for the right settings. Marvellous how Charlie and the team have gone into this level of detail for the class. Cant wait to get mine bouncing its way into Bishop! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
'CHARD Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 (edited) Arriva Trains Wales ignore Group Standards for some unexplained reason, and FGW seem to roughly stick too it. I get your drift Charlie, but that's not only not strictly true, it's simply untrue and misleading. Their units do conform (under grandfather rights, I'm guessing, I'm not very familiar with the ATW Pacers). Until they reach overhaul or hit the deadline for the change to be implemented (most likely whichever comes first), they'll carry on with the old arrangement. If they didn't conform to RGS the fleet would be stopped. There's no grey areas with these standards, TOCs can't pick and choose what they're working to, to diverge or fall beneath what's required at any given time demands a derogation be issued (by the likes of us), and much as I criticise certain TOCs (not in my professional capacity, I hasten to add), they don't play fast and loose with RGS. Sorry to all for O/T diversion and pedant mode (and on my 4000th post too!). Edited August 31, 2012 by 'CHARD Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWJ Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 I may be able to clear up some of the discussions about Railway Group Standards: It is possible to obtain a derogation from standards by demonstrating that compliance is not reasonably practical, or alternative steps have been taken, or both. In any case, the standard for visibility of trains (GM/RT2483) is only mandatory for trains introduced in recent years. Older trains are expected to have their lighting upgraded when practical, e.g. at overhaul. The standard requires two headlamps and three marker lights in the familiar triangular formation; one of the headlights may be used as one of the three marker lights but this is optional, and varies from fleet to fleet. I own both Hornby and Bachmann models which have got this wrong. Another common misunderstanding is that the top marker light is a headlamp - it isn't. Full details are in the standard itself here: http://www.rgsonline.co.uk/Railway_Group_Standards/Rolling%20Stock/Railway%20Group%20Standards/GMRT2483%20Iss%201.pdf Cheers, Will 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted August 31, 2012 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 31, 2012 A couple of quick pics after fitting a Legomanbiffo sound decoder (this is the latest chassis) Hopefully, we'll give it a thorough test this weekend on Blackmill at the Lancashire show Cheers, Mick 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Black Hat Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 Model looks fantastic. Is that the test for the production run? In which case, I hope they are made quickly enough. Its been a while since I was as eagerly anticipating the release of a model like this. The level of detail and accuracy is going to make Bachmann sit up and take note. Would lay money they respond with a modern DMU next year but thats all speculation. Charlie, Arran and the team deserve enromous praise for the work completed to get this far with the model. If this is the latest stage, and about to go into production, which all but completes this process for development, whats the news on that next project you have alluded too? Should class 143/144 be as good as it is, I cant wait for the next one - which Im really after! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted September 2, 2012 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 2, 2012 Just done a quick self-tune on the decoder (CV54 on a Loksound V4) and it's running sweetly. It seems to handle the Blackmill pointwork (mostly Peco code 75 with a couple of code 100 points in one of the storage yards), including double slips and a couple of dodgy joints. Looking good! Cheers, Mick 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
charliepetty Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 (edited) Just done a quick self-tune on the decoder (CV54 on a Loksound V4) and it's running sweetly. It seems to handle the Blackmill pointwork (mostly Peco code 75 with a couple of code 100 points in one of the storage yards), including double slips and a couple of dodgy joints. Looking good! Cheers, Mick REALTRACK OUTSIDE TESTING DEPARTMENT HERE! We have had various mods done on the chassis, wheelsets, gearing, lighting, etc. We are now testing, testing, testing. This unit has now done two shows, one on DC and this weekend on DCC with sound. All is going well so far, Red & Silver Metro units for testing awaited! Youtube Clips going live when Arran gets back off his holidays on a beach near Felixstowe? Or is that a container port!!!! Charlie Edited September 5, 2012 by charliepetty Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Scottish Modeller Posted September 2, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 2, 2012 Hi Charlie, You mean to say you left Arran in a Container Port! Just how many varieties of container do you guys want to produce... When do we get the HO versions! Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
d winpenny Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 Looking really good looking forward to seeing the metro versions David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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