RMweb Gold Mikkel Posted March 28 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 28 On 25/03/2024 at 19:42, Schooner said: Welcome to Victoria Quay (working title) m'Lords, Ladies etc Sorry fam, no time to move house. Busy. Got trains to play with! Awesome stuff @Tricky, thank you for all :) Crane by the most talented also @airnimal. Steam coaster (R/C, woop!) by a nice but unknown gentleman who did a grand job of the build and fit out and then sold her (R/C gear, batteries, controller etc included) for less than the price of the kit. Deeley tank as discussed previously. Inspiration, information and general good juju from you lovely lot. Otherwise it's all my own work! Wow Louis, this is so appealing. Brilliant. As usual you managed to fill in a lot without making it look too cramped. What are the baseboard dimensions please? 2 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold chuffinghell Posted March 28 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 28 50 minutes ago, Mikkel said: Lovely rake! This one is quite nice too 🤣 1 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schooner Posted March 28 Author Share Posted March 28 3 hours ago, Mikkel said: I see that you also attempted a gunpowder van 🙂 Ahahaha guilty! Definite hint of carnage...I look back at some of the past pics of the layout, where it all looks so up together and 'finished', then at how it actually looks on a day-to-day basis and wonder where it all went wrong 🤣 But it's all in pursuit of an engaging, enjoyable and entertain hobby...and sometimes that means levelling the livestock, apparently! Choices and consequences, as they say :) 3 hours ago, Mikkel said: this is so appealing. Flattered, and glad you think so. In time I'll flood this space with reference pics, as per, but the touchstone is Fremmington Quay. In reality it's a tiny place in the grand scheme of things, but a scale model would be vast in toy train terms. Hopefully the end result will capture a little of that low-key complexity shared by all these little rural-industrial spots in their heyday in a handy space. Also 7mm is really fun so far. Heft. 3 hours ago, Mikkel said: What are the baseboard dimensions please? @Tricky may have the actual measurements to hand, but it sits on the same table as Ingleford and has a similar footprint - in the neighbourhood of 1700mm x 650mm*. There are additional cassettes/fiddlesticks, best part of a meter each, left and right to give a 'running line' through the scene; one of the right gives a headshunt for the Full Inglenook Experience. However, Richard's cleverness in bring my plan into reality with the 3-way is it allows space for a perfectly viable spur for a loco and wagon, or two wagons, with which a good amount of shunting can be done just on the base ummmm baseboard :) *To fit in my car, through the door, and on the table. 3 hours ago, chuffinghell said: This one is quite nice too 🤣 She's a beaut! ...just need to turn it the other way up for maximum effect... 😇 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Mikkel Posted March 29 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 29 Thanks for the dimensions, 170x65 cms is raeally good and as you say it goes on a table. Great stuff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schooner Posted April 2 Author Share Posted April 2 (edited) Oh DDP! Stop it... ...I like it! Edited April 2 by Schooner 9 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Schooner Posted April 15 Author Share Posted April 15 First adventures in 7mm (sorta) Never really ballasted before, shoals of fun! A mix of all the trial packets of ballast I got when setting up Ingleford, but colours are largely grey Or 'stone' With some rogue bits along the way. Not done with too much intent, just to make a start whilst I could, but the search for good pics of Fremington Quay has begun in earnest. One of the first finds was a lovely portrait of an Ilfracombe Goods (rebuilt) in that place. Yum :) 15 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mol_PMB Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 You might like to consider cosmetic fishplates - they add a certain something. This isn't the best of photos but it gives the impression. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schooner Posted April 15 Author Share Posted April 15 @Mol_PMBRoger They do make a difference. Even in 4mm I've been surprised by how effective the Peco bullhead fishplates are at lifting the visuals. No pic of those as Ingleford is still in post-gunpowder van state, but with more paint and mess. 17th time lucky for the ground cover around the relaid track... 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Schooner Posted April 16 Author Popular Post Share Posted April 16 (edited) Right, first things first: map. The layout is not a model of Fremington, but will be informed by it as a touchstone; the real-world go-to for inspiration. Modeller's-eye view: 9 hours ago, Schooner said: One of the first finds was a lovely portrait of an Ilfracombe Goods (rebuilt) in that place. Oh go on then, it really belongs in this thread: So ballasting with smallstuff to sleeper-top, bon. I'll keep the 'running line' pretty much as-is so there's a visual break between it and the 'quayside sidings', but that should be pretty doable. Predictably the B4 is likely to set the latest possible setting for the layout as 1890-1900. Future stock revisions are likely to nudge this ever-earlier :) C'mon Shannon, heeere as-built 282s! For the running lines, this is a gorgeous pic of the platforms at Fremington Quay, showing of the quay staff. Undated, but the sort of thing I'll be aiming for. B4 all new and shiny; the lads' donkey jackets not so much: The other surprising pic was of the original (pre-1880s, allegedly) bridge to the immediate West of the Quay: Which is all that and a bag of chips. Would make a fine scenic break at one end (probably RHS, which feels the most thematically appropriate), and I might copy the bridge construction for the rail jetty*. For more info: Ah, 1886 for the 'new' iron bridge: If there's a sailing vessel on the layout I'm defs calling her Wesleyana! Full photo: What a beauty...beast...boat! The Fremington Pill was navigable a little further inland, to Muddlebridge... ...and nearby Fremington Pottery The line through Fremington terminated on the other side of Bideford, at Torrington...where there was an exchange connection with the 3' gauge Torrington and Marland Light Railway whence came much of the export material for Fremington Quay. Useful to keep in mind for general setting and possible backscene options. Maybe. *Plan A/B was/is to base the jetty on that at Kingswear; including following the leads for a crane and a navigation mark, as per: The railway at Fremington started out broad gauge after all! Returning to local light railways for a sec, there is a risk that I'll up sticks and shift the whole setting to Bideford (well, East-the-Water) cos...well...cos look at her: http://www.westwardhohistory.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/0070.jpg Near enough to excuse some far-future Rule 1ing I reckon :) The Falcon coach is available through two different producers in 7mm, as an etch and as a resin print. Just in case. Annnyhoo...Fremington Box. Not too sure where/how it could fit (possible future addition/extension?) but the small footprint makes it a tempting option for a LHS viewblock: General view and info. Must track down those originals: Note the overhanging sleepers, could've stolen another inch of baseboard width! The wall in apparently similar state, but with recent concrete support and recorded in colour: Better view of the kilns: to justify more traffic than just Welsh coal in and Devon clay out. On tenuous links to interesting traffic: More typically though, coal in; clay out: Nom nom nom! Sheeted lime wagons in the background? However, it's pre-War (don't ask), so there will be deals in and timber out ...but mostly clay but even that allows for some decent stock variety, considering: General vibe, diminutive layout size allowing: Stone colour reference: A bit late, but a decent reference for the dock edge: Also, 2,000T = 200 wagons = about 7 x 5-wagon ingle-trains a day, assuming half-day Saturdays. Hectic! Fremington was, after all, the busiest (by tonnage) North-coast port West of Bristol. And here was me thinking the layout would be 50 Shades of Brown: Oh, no, wait... Brown. Brown. Brown. And if it's sunny... Brown. One of Fremington's famous brace of steam cranes at the end of their working life, 1963: They'd visually overpower the layout, but in time a small steam crane (see Kingswear pic at top) would be delightful, and I'm sure kits exist. If not perhaps the kit Neilson or Manning Wardle cranetank 0-4-0s... Signalling... ...but at what date? Right, that'll do for now :) Those were the days! Edited April 16 by Schooner 21 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
drduncan Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 So Plan A/B Kingswear... going to be broad gauge like your photos? Also where did you get those photos of broad gauge Kingswear? Duncan 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold franciswilliamwebb Posted April 16 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 16 11 hours ago, Schooner said: An overdose of ice cream. If I must go, I hope I go like that 👌 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Annie Posted April 17 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 17 On 17/04/2024 at 00:12, drduncan said: So Plan A/B Kingswear... going to be broad gauge like your photos? Also where did you get those photos of broad gauge Kingswear? Duncan https://broadgauge.co.uk/locations/kingswear_station.shtml 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
drduncan Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 2 hours ago, Annie said: https://broadgauge.co.uk/locations/kingswear_station.shtml Oh for better/sharper photos! D 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schooner Posted April 17 Author Share Posted April 17 Thanks @Annie :) 2 hours ago, drduncan said: Oh for better/sharper photos! Try editing the image URL from eg ....locations/kingswear_station/kingswear_station_06_large.jpg to ...locations/kingswear_station/kingswear_station_06_xlarge.jpg which will give you the 4k full size image. They can also be found through Google, not sure why the site itself doesn't link to them. 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
drduncan Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 @Schooner You’re staying suspiciously quiet about a forthcoming broad gauge conversion… D 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schooner Posted April 17 Author Share Posted April 17 Cogitating! There's a little bit of me that's wondering if a broad gauge third rail* could also cover a third gauge... *32mm + 16.5mm allllmost = the 49mm (7') of West Country broad gauge The rail could be added (reasonably?) simply to the running line, and the quayside road, inc TT and jetty... which would allow for Bristol & Exeter stock for an early setting, and a nod to the Torrington and Marland Railway One day, maybe! For now, Kingswear provides only general inspiration and a possible prototype on which to base the jetty construction and fittings. 15 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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