RMweb Gold Dagworth Posted December 18, 2022 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted December 18, 2022 1 hour ago, Clive martin said: Sorry to ask you more questions is the layout going to be a roundy roundy and do you intend to do loco change overs in the station ,i guess as its your layout you dont have to and you could run the class 86 and intercity sets through i seem to remember an evening servie to stowmarket formed of class 309 units that came back to Ipswich ecs and stabled in the yard this was before through electric services to Norwich , your photos of the station trackwok with all those locos on the stabling point looks fantastic it already looks like Ipswich! Yes, loco changes are one of the main features of operation. I did them on Dagworth many years back too. Did you notice the pair of 309s in the sidings? The pair are 605 and 621, the two that feature in Johann’s photos Andi 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dagworth Posted December 18, 2022 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted December 18, 2022 1 hour ago, PM47079 said: Bridges end of the yard view That's great, thank you. It shows how the point lever lay flat! The pot sleeper section is under the freightliner set. Andi 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PM47079 Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 That's good I was hoping it may be useful 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clive martin Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 13 hours ago, Dagworth said: Yes, loco changes are one of the main features of operation. I did them on Dagworth many years back too. Did you notice the pair of 309s in the sidings? The pair are 605 and 621, the two that feature in Johann’s photos Andi Hi Andi i did notice your splendid 309s,i really think those were the golden years at Ipswich we still had 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clive martin Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 Just now, Clive martin said: Hi Andi i did notice your splendid 309s,i really think those were the golden years at Ipswich ,i loved it when the emus started comeing to Ipswich i remember seeing class 305 and 308s as well! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johann Marsbar Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 21 minutes ago, Clive martin said: First full day of electric service, 13 May 1985 - not noteable for the weather conditions first thing...... ...but the sun was out by lunchtime..... 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PM47079 Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 Any good to you Andi? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dagworth Posted December 19, 2022 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted December 19, 2022 49 minutes ago, PM47079 said: Any good to you Andi? Yes absolutely, particularly that first one as that's the one big bit I have no photos of at all. Massive thank you! Andi Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PM47079 Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 Pleased to help if I find anymore I will let you know 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dagworth Posted December 19, 2022 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted December 19, 2022 9 hours ago, PM47079 said: Not being a steam man can anyone tell me what that tender is and what would be a suitable model to start from to build the snowplough? Also what is the well wagon behind the snowplough, and what is the other wagon? I have in my head that they were ZRVs and I know that they were used for coils of steel wire. Andi Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNERGE Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 (edited) The plough is made from an ex LNER group standard tender. Something like this but this is not it. Found a better picture.. Edited December 20, 2022 by LNERGE Found a better pic 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rivercider Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 7 hours ago, Dagworth said: Not being a steam man can anyone tell me what that tender is and what would be a suitable model to start from to build the snowplough? Also what is the well wagon behind the snowplough, and what is the other wagon? I have in my head that they were ZRVs and I know that they were used for coils of steel wire. Andi Regarding the other wagon, if you remember wagons of coiled wire then it looks like a Coil E (TOPS code KEV) - have a look on Paul Bartlett's site. It would not be a TOPS code ZRV which was a bit of a catch-all code for odd vac braked stuff transferred to the engineer depts. cheers 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted December 20, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 20, 2022 12 hours ago, Dagworth said: Not being a steam man can anyone tell me what that tender is and what would be a suitable model to start from to build the snowplough? Also what is the well wagon behind the snowplough, and what is the other wagon? I have in my head that they were ZRVs and I know that they were used for coils of steel wire. Andi Hi Andi The snowplough as Richard said is mounted on a group standard tender (B1, D49, V2 etc etc). It was for many years the Norwich plough. The plough bit used to hung on the front of a J15. Paul Bartlett has a couple of photos of it https://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/snowplough I am sure you would have operated Hanging Hill with it on. Richard's photo of ABD 330966 is of a GCR plough (carried by a J something GCR in the good old days) mounted on a GNR tender, based at Shirebrook. The model next to my Norwich plough is the same configuration but the tender has retained its coal rails, these seemed to have been removed from many ploughs in the 1970s. As for making a model, Bachmann's B1, J39 or V2 are suitable, look out for wreaked split chassis locos going cheap if you cannot get a tender by itself. Hornby's B1, K1, B17 or D49 (not the one pushed along by the tender). Not sure if Heljan done one for the LNER version of the O2. For a long time Ipswich had a GER tender with a small plough on the front, like the one on the right. 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dagworth Posted December 20, 2022 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted December 20, 2022 6 hours ago, Rivercider said: Regarding the other wagon, if you remember wagons of coiled wire then it looks like a Coil E (TOPS code KEV) - have a look on Paul Bartlett's site. It would not be a TOPS code ZRV which was a bit of a catch-all code for odd vac braked stuff transferred to the engineer depts. cheers From Paul’s site it is a KRV but I am sure that I remember them being labelled as ZRV, when 37019 got bent at Felixstowe it was a bunch of those that we hit so it stuck in my head. Andi Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dagworth Posted December 20, 2022 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted December 20, 2022 The final piece of track in the yard has been laid today, just the up and down main lines left to finish now and all scenic track will be in place. Well on target to have all the scenic track complete by new year. Andi 8 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clive martin Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 18 hours ago, Dagworth said: The final piece of track in the yard has been laid today, just the up and down main lines left to finish now and all scenic track will be in place. Well on target to have all the scenic track complete by new year. Andi Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clive martin Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 And now for the mammoth task of ballast! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dagworth Posted December 21, 2022 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted December 21, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Clive martin said: And now for the mammoth task of ballast! Wiring first, test it all before ballasting :) Oh and painting all the rails, and sleepers of the points. But there's a helix to build as well, and all the fiddle yard boards... Andi Edited December 21, 2022 by Dagworth Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted December 21, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 21, 2022 36 minutes ago, Dagworth said: Wiring first, test it all before ballasting :) Oh and painting all the rails, and sleepers of the points. But there's a helix to build as well, and all the fiddle yard boards... Andi What are you doing wasting time on here for then? Mike. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dagworth Posted December 24, 2022 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted December 24, 2022 Final lengths of scenic track laid, my target of having all scenic track laid in a year has been achieved. Onwards to the second helix… Andi 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PM47079 Posted December 25, 2022 Share Posted December 25, 2022 That's great 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dagworth Posted December 28, 2022 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted December 28, 2022 This is the fiddle yard junction at the bottom of the Down end helix, known as Helixstowe. Triple track helix splitting out into two separate fiddle yards. Diamond crossings would be a lot easier to make if we didn’t use the rails for current collection. Andi 12 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PM47079 Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 That looks extremely impressive. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dagworth Posted December 31, 2022 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted December 31, 2022 (edited) I started this topic this time last year with a post of the first loco moving across Helifax junction at the bottom of the South helix. I finish this year with the last main board frame built - not complete in any way as the helix boards can only be built as each turn of track is laid - only sub-boards remain to be built (30 fiddle yard boards which are each 4’ x 1’) I still need to add all the cross bracing and uprights to both the board with the track and the one at the far end to support the helix trackbeds The board nearest the camera is sort of four foot square but with additions, the helix itself is eight foot diameter. The next few days will see the North helix grow, once it reaches full height I can build what equates to East Suffolk Junction which sits 12” above the points visible here. Happy New Year to everyone who reads my topics (and yah boo to those who don’t as they’ll never see this 😝 ) May 2023 bring more modelling and less woodworking. Andi Edited December 31, 2022 by Dagworth 11 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted January 1, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 1, 2023 7 hours ago, Dagworth said: The board nearest the camera is sort of four foot square but with additions, the helix itself is eight foot diameter. I might be needing a 8' diameter helix or part thereof, are you cutting the circular boards yourself or using an outside contractor? Feliz Ano Nuevo. Mike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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