RMweb Gold papagolfjuliet Posted August 18, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 18, 2022 Not exactly a smaller supplier, but I note with interest that LEGO has announced a fairly decent looking Gauge 1/1:32 Hall (and a frankly terrible Mk.1) as part of its Harry Potter range. Get weaving, kit bashers. https://www.lego.com/en-gb/product/hogwarts-express-collectors-edition-76405?icmp=LP-SHH-Standard-HP_Hero_76405_Nessie_Video_LP-EX-HP-V9NS4IDBRZ 1 1 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian G Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 It is getting bad reviews on some Lego pages, I have been looking for driving wheels for my young son after picking up a few sets at car boot sales Ian G Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Kris Posted August 22, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 22, 2022 Given that this set won't run on standard lego track it is not a surprise that it is getting bad reviews. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium MJI Posted August 22, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 22, 2022 Wrong colour, should be green Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LimboBrit Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 (edited) On 18/08/2022 at 13:29, papagolfjuliet said: Not exactly a smaller supplier, but I note with interest that LEGO has announced a fairly decent looking Gauge 1/1:32 Hall (and a frankly terrible Mk.1) as part of its Harry Potter range. Get weaving, kit bashers. https://www.lego.com/en-gb/product/hogwarts-express-collectors-edition-76405?icmp=LP-SHH-Standard-HP_Hero_76405_Nessie_Video_LP-EX-HP-V9NS4IDBRZ 430 quid!! I think somebody is taking the mickey Edited August 22, 2022 by LimboBrit 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
009 micro modeller Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 2 hours ago, Kris said: Given that this set won't run on standard lego track it is not a surprise that it is getting bad reviews. I was going to say - unless they’ve changed it ordinary Lego track is about 38mm, rather than Gauge 1 or any of the usual model railway gauges. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Parker Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 1 hour ago, LimboBrit said: 430 quid!! I think somebody is taking the mickey That's reasonably cheap in the high-end Lego world! 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted August 22, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 22, 2022 3 hours ago, 009 micro modeller said: I was going to say - unless they’ve changed it ordinary Lego track is about 38mm, rather than Gauge 1 or any of the usual model railway gauges. It’s 8 studs wide instead of the usual 6 studs so it’s probably bigger than gauge 1 by a few mm. If you’re a well off potter fan it’s quite nice I suppose but there is the equally nice one for the standard track and I added an extra wheelset to make the tender a 6 wheeler. compared to the set version Not a huge Potter fan but I like the train so it was bought for my Lego Xmas display ;) 6 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LimboBrit Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 15 hours ago, Phil Parker said: That's reasonably cheap in the high-end Lego world! I'm obviously out of touch. I'd be interested to know what the margins are on these small plastic mouldings. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2O Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 (edited) Let's hope Bacheljarnby don't pick up on the accuracy / price / self assembly combination that Lego seem to be offering on this one! Edited August 23, 2022 by H2O Typo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
6990WitherslackHall Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 (edited) On 22/08/2022 at 14:36, MJI said: Wrong colour, should be green When as Olton Hall, yes. But it's Hogwarts Castle (oh, the irony!) and I think it suits the Hall well. Edited August 23, 2022 by 6990WitherslackHall Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
6990WitherslackHall Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 18 hours ago, PaulRhB said: It’s 8 studs wide instead of the usual 6 studs so it’s probably bigger than gauge 1 by a few mm. If you’re a well off potter fan it’s quite nice I suppose but there is the equally nice one for the standard track and I added an extra wheelset to make the tender a 6 wheeler. compared to the set version Not a huge Potter fan but I like the train so it was bought for my Lego Xmas display ;) That set is being decommissioned soon and Lego will stop making it. It's now £60 on Argos. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium phil-b259 Posted August 23, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 23, 2022 7 hours ago, LimboBrit said: I'm obviously out of touch. You are:- https://www.lego.com/en-gb/product/lego-titanic-10294 https://www.lego.com/en-gb/product/colosseum-10276 https://www.lego.com/en-gb/product/lion-knights-castle-10305?icmp=HP-SHH-Tall-NO_Hero_Tall_10305_Lion_Knights_Castle_Product_HP-PR-NO-EJ2018OJIM https://www.lego.com/en-gb/product/loop-coaster-10303 In recent years Lego have made a concerted effort to nurture the ‘Adult Fans Of Lego’ market (kids who loved Lego but never really grew out of it) with everything from plants to pianos…. https://www.lego.com/en-gb/categories/adults-welcome https://www.lego.com/en-gb/product/orchid-10311 https://www.lego.com/en-gb/product/grand-piano-21323 7 hours ago, LimboBrit said: I'd be interested to know what the margins are on these small plastic mouldings. Not as much as you might think. Lego takes pride in the quality of its product and most of the clones / copies (the Lego patent on their interlocking bricks expired some time back) are simply not as good. Also the Lego group is actually quite a philanthropic company reflecting its origins as a family owned Danish firm (the family stilly own 50% IIRC. https://www.unicef.org/press-releases/lego-foundation-becomes-single-largest-private-sector-contributor-unicefs-covid-0 https://learningthroughplay.com/how-we-play/ukraine/ 1 2 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titan Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 I think lego missed a trick when they went from 12V to 9V. They introduced a completely new system of wheels, motors, and track. If they had perhaps built all the then new 9V stuff to O gauge instead it would have opened up a lot of possibilities. Being lego, if you wanted to run the old stuff you would just swap wheels and motors. However it would not have been in "system", which would be strongly against lego policy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpendle Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 41 minutes ago, phil-b259 said: 8 hours ago, LimboBrit said: I'd be interested to know what the margins are on these small plastic mouldings. Not as much as you might think. Lego takes pride in the quality of its product and most of the clones / copies (the Lego patent on their interlocking bricks expired some time back) are simply not as good. Also the Lego group is actually quite a philanthropic company reflecting its origins as a family owned Danish firm (the family stilly own 50% IIRC. And don't forget their superb quality control. We must have bought hundreds of sets for our kids and grandchildren over the years and there have never been any missing pieces! Also they still make everything themselves, they tried outsourcing the manufacture of the bricks and it didn't go well. Regards, John P 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium phil-b259 Posted August 23, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 23, 2022 5 minutes ago, Titan said: I think lego missed a trick when they went from 12V to 9V. Not really One of the proudest boasts of Lego is you can still use their earliest products from the 60s alongside their latest bricks (of course since the expiry of their patent you can also add in ‘Lego Clone’ bricks too. Given the whole point of Lego in the first place is it’s a kids toy and the only limitation is their imagination you can see why accuracy plays 2nd fiddle to playability. By keeping the track gauge and basic wheel design in place you can use your 12v wagons on 9V track and visa versa. Also the 9V motor bogie (and indeed all subsequent ones for battery powered trains once metal tracks were ditched) are of the same size so you can take your 12v loco and simply swap them to make it work on the current all plastic track if you want. Of course you battery powered train will also work on your 12v track…. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Decorum Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 6 hours ago, 6990WitherslackHall said: That set is being decommissioned soon and Lego will stop making it. It's now £60 on Argos. Ashamed as I am to be looking at such stuff, I think you’ll find that the £60 Argos is quite a different set. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium phil-b259 Posted August 23, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 23, 2022 18 minutes ago, No Decorum said: Ashamed as I am to be looking at such stuff, I think you’ll find that the £60 Argos is quite a different set. Why should you be ‘Ashamed’? Yes Lego isn’t exactly fine scale model railways but you can make truly amazing models out of it! Like all model making Its quite therapeutic - the sense of ‘I made that’ can be just as rewarding when talking about a Lego kit as it can be with a traditional one. just because Lego doesn’t involve glues, paints metalworking, soldering or woodworking doesn’t make it something to sneer at. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted August 23, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 23, 2022 1 hour ago, No Decorum said: I think you’ll find that the £60 Argos is quite a different set. He was quoting text and my pic of the cheaper ‘standard Lego gauge’ loco for context 😉 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Decorum Posted August 24, 2022 Share Posted August 24, 2022 11 hours ago, phil-b259 said: Why should you be ‘Ashamed’? Yes Lego isn’t exactly fine scale model railways but you can make truly amazing models out of it! Like all model making Its quite therapeutic - the sense of ‘I made that’ can be just as rewarding when talking about a Lego kit as it can be with a traditional one. just because Lego doesn’t involve glues, paints metalworking, soldering or woodworking doesn’t make it something to sneer at. All right, I’m ashamed to be ashamed. 😀 Lego can be good fun but the trains just don’t look right to me; not that I have any claim to be a skilled constructor of models or even a kitbasher. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Decorum Posted August 24, 2022 Share Posted August 24, 2022 10 hours ago, PaulRhB said: He was quoting text and my pic of the cheaper ‘standard Lego gauge’ loco for context 😉 I took it that he was referring to the original kit referred to. My mistake. Sorry. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titan Posted August 24, 2022 Share Posted August 24, 2022 17 hours ago, phil-b259 said: Not really One of the proudest boasts of Lego is you can still use their earliest products from the 60s alongside their latest bricks (of course since the expiry of their patent you can also add in ‘Lego Clone’ bricks too. Given the whole point of Lego in the first place is it’s a kids toy and the only limitation is their imagination you can see why accuracy plays 2nd fiddle to playability. By keeping the track gauge and basic wheel design in place you can use your 12v wagons on 9V track and visa versa. Also the 9V motor bogie (and indeed all subsequent ones for battery powered trains once metal tracks were ditched) are of the same size so you can take your 12v loco and simply swap them to make it work on the current all plastic track if you want. Of course you battery powered train will also work on your 12v track…. Not sure if you got what I meant. You could still use your old wagons on the O gauge just by swapping wheels/wheelsets, so you could still use 1960's products on the new system. Similarly the O gauge motors could still have the same 4 stud wide form factor, but with the wheels inset slightly, so again the O gauge motor could be a direct swap for the 1960's stuff. Not only that, but you would gain more space for motion, something sadly lacking on the 9V sets. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium phil-b259 Posted August 24, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 24, 2022 4 hours ago, No Decorum said: All right, I’m ashamed to be ashamed. 😀 Lego can be good fun but the trains just don’t look right to me; not that I have any claim to be a skilled constructor of models or even a kitbasher. Agreed Lego trains themselves are a bit ‘blocky’ and things like connecting rods / pistons hard to model but you can still achieve some pretty inspiring designs... https://www.warrenelsmore.com/latest/st-pancras-station 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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