RMweb Gold Godfrey Glyn Posted January 12, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 12, 2023 These are now out. Picked up my first set from Paul at Alton Model Centre this morning First impressions good, carriages very nicely presented in a stout well padded box with a magnetic catch for the lid. Seem to measure up well with the drawing in Weddell’s LSWR Carriages in the 20th Century. Very pleased with these additions. Thank you Kernow! all the best Godfrey 12 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium phil-b259 Posted January 13, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 13, 2023 (edited) Anyone got a pic of the Southern Railway Malachite set - are the brake 3rds still missing their '3's from the doors... Edited January 13, 2023 by phil-b259 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Godfrey Glyn Posted January 13, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 13, 2023 Sorry can’t help with the Southern Railway version. I collected the BR(S) version from Paul this morning which has Composite S5043 in the set. It matches the photo in Weddell on page 34 of S 5048 which shows that the first class compartments are identified with a 1, but the third class ones do not have any marking on their doors. best wishes Godfrey 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ian Hargrave Posted January 13, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 13, 2023 10 hours ago, phil-b259 said: Anyone got a pic of the Southern Railway Malachite set - are the brake 3rds still missing their '3's from the doors... Looking at Kernow’s website it would appear that they are indeed missing. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 45655 Posted January 13, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 13, 2023 3 hours ago, Godfrey Glyn said: Sorry can’t help with the Southern Railway version. I collected the BR(S) version from Paul this morning which has Composite S5043 in the set. It matches the photo in Weddell on page 34 of S 5048 which shows that the first class compartments are identified with a 1, but the third class ones do not have any marking on their doors. best wishes Godfrey I must have passed you in the shop! I came away with the malachite version and, yes, it is missing the class markings on the brake vehicles. Just a matter of a few transfers, though. The body finish is a bit matt, so I think it is due for a touch up and revarnish anyway. Keith Alton. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium TrevorP1 Posted January 13, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 13, 2023 I gave in to the sirens of temptation and earlier this week ordered a BR green set 'lightly weathered' from TMC. They are absolutely not needed on a western region layout but they look really nice models and something to appreciate for what they are. It looks like Plymouth Railway Circle are going to be running a few railtours into Cornwall... Very much looking forward to them. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ian Hargrave Posted January 13, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 13, 2023 4 hours ago, Ian Hargrave said: Looking at Kernow’s website it would appear that they are indeed missing. But hasn’t deterred me from buying.😇 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ian Hargrave Posted January 16, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 16, 2023 As you would expect,they are smooth runners. My SR malachite set is currently paired with olive green OOWorks Adams Jubilee.Probably the wrong livery combination I imagine but it does “look good “. The packaging impresses enormously. Yes I know it’s expensive but a treat nonetheless. Wonder when they received the malachite paint job ? 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenGiraffe22 Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 I've just ordered a malachite H1 for Brighton - Portsmouth running with the malachite set I have on order, there's evidence of them pre war with an H2 at least so I'm going with the assumption that it was still an operational pairing just after the war, if not who cares! 3 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattkimster Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 1 hour ago, GreenGiraffe22 said: I've just ordered a malachite H1 for Brighton - Portsmouth running with the malachite set I have on order, there's evidence of them pre war with an H2 at least so I'm going with the assumption that it was still an operational pairing just after the war, if not who cares! I had wondered about the typical motive power for these, and assumed/hoped the malachite H1 could be an appropriate option. I was flicking through my various SR books over the weekend, and the coaches seem to have been quite camera shy! Would an M7 or a T9 also be suitable? On 13/01/2023 at 17:05, 45655 said: I came away with the malachite version and, yes, it is missing the class markings on the brake vehicles. Just a matter of a few transfers, though. I also wonder if anyone can recommend a good source for these transfers? Thanks! Matt Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete_mcfarlane Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 M7, O2 or T9 would be the most appropriate RTR locos to haul them. Maybe a Bachmann N class 2-6-0 as well. 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ian Hargrave Posted January 17, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 17, 2023 9 hours ago, pete_mcfarlane said: M7, O2 or T9 would be the most appropriate RTR locos to haul them. Maybe a Bachmann N class 2-6-0 as well. Actually,almost any thing ….Hornby N15 & S15,even LN ,WC/BB and MN ( the latter on Salisbury - Yeovil Jct - Exeter stopper turns which ensured they were returned to 72A ). A Q1 is another seen on passenger turns. Have fun ! 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted January 17, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 17, 2023 12 minutes ago, Ian Hargrave said: Actually,almost any thing ….Hornby N15 & S15,even LN ,WC/BB and MN ( the latter on Salisbury - Yeovil Jct - Exeter stopper turns which ensured they were returned to 72A ). A Q1 is another seen on passenger turns. Have fun ! No rebuilt Bulleids though, these coaches had all gone by the time they came into being. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green too Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 6 hours ago, Ian Hargrave said: Actually,almost any thing …. Anything Western Division, that is ................ unlikely to have been seen with C, D, D1, E4, or H classes - of those available from the trade. ( nor AiX, E1, P or USA ) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ian Hargrave Posted January 17, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 17, 2023 1 hour ago, Wickham Green too said: Anything Western Division, that is ................ unlikely to have been seen with C, D, D1, E4, or H classes - of those available from the trade. ( nor AiX, E1, P or USA ) I assumed that this is known as they were ex- LSWR and thus passed to the Southern,thence to BR ( S ) Western section. . I must remind myself that clarity is all in future.🤭 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold RFS Posted January 17, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 17, 2023 On 05/11/2022 at 13:55, RFS said: Looks like a pair of sets in this photo with a couple of Maunsells in between. Portsmouth to Brighton in 1938. https://railphotoprints.uk/p685609678/e1fca8d3f These sets are described as "cross-country" and hence would often turn up at other Southern locations on services from the Western section, as I posted earlier. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green too Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 2 hours ago, Ian Hargrave said: I assumed that this is known as they were ex- LSWR and thus passed to the Southern, thence to BR ( S ) Western section. . I must remind myself that clarity is all in future.🤭 The crucial thing - which many won't know - is that these sets were too wide over duckets to be included in the 'Rover' pool of former SECR and LBSCR three-coach sets which operated at random in those areas ................ though why it was worth removing the duckets from the Brighton brakes and not the South Western ones, too, escapes me - unless the over-generous van provision just made then too different !!?! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garethp8873 Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 @Graham_Muz have you got your hands on a set yet? Awaiting to see your review on these carriages :) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 Gotta think Graham was involved with the model development Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Graham_Muz Posted January 19, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 19, 2023 10 hours ago, Garethp8873 said: @Graham_Muz have you got your hands on a set yet? Awaiting to see your review on these carriages :) Hi, I may do a picture based feature but it would be inappropriate for me to do a full review... 2 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted January 19, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 19, 2023 (edited) On 17/01/2023 at 20:02, Wickham Green too said: The crucial thing - which many won't know - is that these sets were too wide over duckets to be included in the 'Rover' pool of former SECR and LBSCR three-coach sets which operated at random in those areas ................ though why it was worth removing the duckets from the Brighton brakes and not the South Western ones, too, escapes me - unless the over-generous van provision just made then too different !!?! LSWR "half-van" brakes were only built to fulfil specific traffic needs, and 3-sets that included two of them were rarely suited to other duties. That continued to be so with Maunsell stock similarly provided. So long as there were enough of the Brighton brakes for the intended purpose, their greater seating capacity would have decided the matter, leaving no need to adopt less suitable alternatives. Before they were even "middle-aged", the ex-LSWR "Cross-Country" sets were steadily displaced by corridor stock of similar vintage on to more localised work within their "home patch", so being route-restricted won't have caused operational inconvenience. John Edited January 19, 2023 by Dunsignalling 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil gollin Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 1 hour ago, Dunsignalling said: ... So long as there were enough of the Brighton brakes for the intended purpose, ... . "Brighton brakes" ? Which ones are these, please ? . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted January 19, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 19, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, phil gollin said: . "Brighton brakes" ? Which ones are these, please ? . As cited (non-specifically) in the earlier post to which I was replying. Edited January 19, 2023 by Dunsignalling Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green too Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 Brakes in the Brighton 'Rover' sets I referred to earlier .......... like all mainland Brighton coaches ( P/P excluded ) they were relatively early withdrawals. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium TrevorP1 Posted January 19, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 19, 2023 Thumbing through my copy of ‘Andover to Redbridge - The Spratt and Winkle Line’ by Nigel Bray and the frontispiece jumped out at me. Hopefully the caption is clear. 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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