Cowley 47521 Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 4 hours ago, 97406 said: The funny thing is that I didn't like the Banger Blue on them, but I still hold a great deal of nostalgia for them being like that. Large Logo was the look for me though! Yeah they looked a little anonymous in banger blue, whereas they kind of lit up the western region in large logo somehow. It suited them really well. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mallaig1983 Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 9 hours ago, Cowley 47521 said: Yeah they looked a little anonymous in banger blue, whereas they kind of lit up the western region in large logo somehow. It suited them really well. When I moved to Oxford as an 11 year old and discovered the class 50s for the first time they were transitioning from Banger Blue to Large Logo and I remember those days fondly. I loved both liveries and the variety of the two. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hodgson Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 On 28/01/2023 at 09:08, Hilux5972 said: I definitely prefer this one to the one portrayed by Olivia’s. From the English Electric Archive website. Definitely an improvement on banger blue or the dreadful large logo version. Notwork South East colours were more attractive than blue. But I rather think green Hymek livery (before yellow panels) with white windows surrounds and the thinner yellowy green bottom stripe would have suited them better still 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 97406 Posted January 29, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 29, 2023 3 hours ago, Michael Hodgson said: Definitely an improvement on banger blue or the dreadful large logo version. Notwork South East colours were more attractive than blue. But I rather think green Hymek livery (before yellow panels) with white windows surrounds and the thinner yellowy green bottom stripe would have suited them better still I'm inclined to agree! https://train.spottingworld.com/Dreadful 😃🤣 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob D2 Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 7 hours ago, Michael Hodgson said: Definitely an improvement on banger blue or the dreadful large logo version. Notwork South East colours were more attractive than blue. But I rather think green Hymek livery (before yellow panels) with white windows surrounds and the thinner yellowy green bottom stripe would have suited them better still Dreadful largo logo ?? Is your bed big enough for a horses head ?:) 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium younGGuns7 Posted January 29, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 29, 2023 Think it depends on your memories, I have said before a pair of 50s hammering down WBQs in banger blue really evokes my memories of the early/mid 70s so whilst not everyone’s bag, it was certainly mine. I remember absolutely hating them when they replaced my beloved Westerns but now I have a bit of a soft spot for them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowley 47521 Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 I have a massive soft spot for early Network Southeast. I know it’s not a great livery really, but it appeared on the scene when I was around 14 years old and when I started going down to Exeter St David’s after school in 1986. The usual thing was to walk onto platform 1 and see whatever was loudly ticking over (and filling the general area up with acrid blue smoke) on the 16:18 Waterloo departure before walking over the footbridge to platform 6 to see what was on shed (lots of lovely banger blue stuff usually). This particular day though I could see a set of white window surrounds on the other side of the station, and in the days where you had to wait until a monthly magazine came out to find out what was happening on the railways the only possible thing I could think of with white window surrounds was a Hymek… It wasn’t a Hymek though. It was 50017 Royal Oak absolutely gleaming in a livery that I’d never seen before and didn’t know even existed, just a day or two after Network Southeast was launched in June 1986… Great memories (and all hail the livery froth)! 11 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Ian J. Posted January 29, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 29, 2023 I can't say I've ever liked the NSE liveries, whether on a Class 50 or not. I even stop one of my modelling periods short of that June 1986 day to avoid having anything in the livery (period being beginning 1985 to May 1986). That's why LL Blue with no orange cantrail stripe is the goto livery for class 50s for me. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Ncarter2 Posted January 30, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 30, 2023 Question for the better informed, would the forthcoming 50014 but suitable for a renumber as 50046? It was the first 50 I set eyes on, back in June/July 91, looking very tired in its LL livery. I wasn’t in Salisbury too long on the day, my Grandad wanted to get down to Southampton for a XC back to the midlands. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 97406 Posted January 30, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 30, 2023 I thought the later NSE livery suited the 50s. The earlier one was a bit 'Marmite' to me (ugh!). 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halvarras Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 14 hours ago, Michael Hodgson said: Definitely an improvement on banger blue or the dreadful large logo version. Notwork South East colours were more attractive than blue. But I rather think green Hymek livery (before yellow panels) with white windows surrounds and the thinner yellowy green bottom stripe would have suited them better still Which just goes to show how polarizing the subject of diesel locomotive liveries can be! 😆 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 97406 Posted January 30, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 30, 2023 (edited) 5 hours ago, Halvarras said: Which just goes to show how polarizing the subject of diesel locomotive liveries can be! 😆 I remember a time when just about everything was in banger blue! They were good old days! Edited January 30, 2023 by 97406 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob D2 Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 TBH, I think whatever livery they were when you remember them as a kid , that’s the one you’ll love. I was also 14 in 1986, but my chuffer interest disappeared in 1985 when I joined the cadets. So my original interest period was 1981-85 ! I remember telling dad he could have his N gauge roundy back….it’s amazing I’ve kept an interest in Blue all this time. I’m now quite upset that the interest didn’t prolong into sectorisation - when I came back everything was red or American ! 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Legend Posted January 30, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 30, 2023 On 28/01/2023 at 11:48, atom3624 said: Sorry to burst a few bubbles, but 2-tone green just doesn't look 'right' for me - a 'Hoover' has got to be BR blue. Each to his/her own as they say. Al. Nearly as bad as purple Deltics! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
'CHARD Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 TBH, I feel that the overall quest for authenticity amongst general modelling interests is so comprehensively swamped by the Rule One brigade, that Accurascale could release a Class 50 in 1963 'Dog's Ar5e With A Hat On' livery and still shift 504 units. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowley 47521 Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 58 minutes ago, 'CHARD said: TBH, I feel that the overall quest for authenticity amongst general modelling interests is so comprehensively swamped by the Rule One brigade, that Accurascale could release a Class 50 in 1963 'Dog's Ar5e With A Hat On' livery and still shift 504 units. Someone add that to the list of liveries! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted January 30, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 30, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, 'CHARD said: Accurascale could release a Class 50 in 1963 'Dog's Ar5e With A Hat On' livery and still shift 504 units. A class 504 would be very nice, in-fact I think you must have been reading my mind. But even half a 50 would still shift two 504 units. (That is what you meant, wasnt it ?) 😁 Edited January 30, 2023 by adb968008 4 1 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post Accurascale Fran Posted February 7, 2023 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted February 7, 2023 (edited) Pomp And Defiance - Accurascale Exclusive Class 50s Announced Hi everyone, Following the excitement of our two Class 31 Accurascale Exclusives last week we thought it best to announce our Class 50 duo! When it comes to specials, the 50s really have us spoiled. So, we can say that there will certainly be more exclusives Class 50s in the future. But, in the meantime, here is the first two; 50007 "Sir Edward Elgar" in GWR inspired Green and 50149 "Defiance" in Railfreight General subsector livery. 50007 - Sir Edward Elgar Still controversial almost four decades after being repainted, 50007 was outshopped in Great Western Railway lined green with cast numbers and double arrow in February 1984 as part of the GW150 celebrations that were planned for the following year. At the same time, it lost its Hercules name in order to mark the 50th anniversary of the death of the composer Sir Edward Elgar – who had no connection with Brunel’s famous railway. Rumoured to be the first of a series of Class 50s renamed after famous people, the intense backlash put paid to any future rededications! Refreshed several times up until its final withdrawal in 1994 its livery subtly changed each time and our model represents the classic Network SouthEast 1988-91 period with full-length orange cantrail stripe. 50149 Defiance The second half of the 1980s saw a potential new direction for the Class 50s as passenger work began to dry up. While 1987 brought sad news with the first three examples switched off, Plymouth’s Laira depot also outshopped the former 50049 Defiance in the stunning new Railfreight General livery with re-geared CP7 bogies and new 50149 number. The sole member of the Class 50/1 sub class, it was primarily used in the South West on china clay and Speedlink wagonload duties before the project was cancelled. This was partially due to poor wheelslip protection and lack of sanding equipment, both ironically removed during refurbishment and considered too expensive to reinstate. It was returned to standard condition in February 1989 and repainted in the revised NSE scheme. Delivery is slated for after the delivery of main range locomotives, with the exclusives arriving in Q1 2024. You can spread the cost using our flexible payment terms over 6 months or less, depending on your requirements. Just click on the basket at checkout and follow the simple steps. Each loco will come in bespoke presentation packaging to make it feel that extra bit special too! Remember, our Accurascale Exclusives series of models are open to all customers, and do not require the expense and hassle of joining a club to purchase. Place your pre-order for your EE slab of magnificence by clicking here: https://www.accurascale.com/collections/class-50 Cheers! Fran Edited February 7, 2023 by Accurascale Fran 20 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold franciswilliamwebb Posted February 7, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 7, 2023 You lot'll have me going back into employment so I can afford all these new toys. What a bunch of bashers 😉 1 6 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted February 7, 2023 Share Posted February 7, 2023 Phew!! Wallet saved by the presence of an Orange line!😃 Mark 1 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNERandBR Posted February 7, 2023 Share Posted February 7, 2023 17 minutes ago, Mark said: Phew!! Wallet saved by the presence of an Orange line!😃 Mark Suspect it would come off pretty easy 🤣 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold MikeParkin65 Posted February 7, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 7, 2023 44 minutes ago, Accurascale Fran said: Pomp And Defiance - Accurascale Exclusive Class 50s Announced 50007 - Sir Edward Elgar Still controversial almost four decades after being repainted, 50007 was outshopped in Great Western Railway lined green with cast numbers and double arrow in February 1984 as part of the GW150 celebrations that were planned for the following year. At the same time, it lost its Hercules name in order to mark the 50th anniversary of the death of the composer Sir Edward Elgar – who had no connection with Brunel’s famous railway. Got to take issue with the idea that Sir Edward had no connection with the GWR! Born in Worcester (which was of course a significant GWR workshop) and a regular traveller on route of the Cathedrals Express. 50 007 was selected to carry on the tradition of carrying the great mans name that had started with the naming of Castle 7005. Personally I loved 50 007 as Sir Edward - saw it fresh from repaint at Shrub Hill in the autumn of 1985. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted February 7, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 7, 2023 (edited) 56 minutes ago, Accurascale Fran said: Place your pre-order for your EE slab of magnificence by clicking here: https://www.accurascale.com/en-eu/collections/class-50 You really know how to sell it… 😁 But at least now the party is really starting… Are these limited ? (Like 92010 etc) was ? Edited February 7, 2023 by adb968008 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium nightstar.train Posted February 7, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 7, 2023 Goddammit Accurascale. I've just ordered a EWS 31, and now you've gone and announced Elgar. I'll have to wait a bit before ordering it, hope they don't sell out in record time! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonC Posted February 7, 2023 Share Posted February 7, 2023 7 minutes ago, MikeParkin65 said: Got to take issue with the idea that Sir Edward had no connection with the GWR! Born in Worcester (which was of course a significant GWR workshop) and a regular traveller on route of the Cathedrals Express. 50 007 was selected to carry on the tradition of carrying the great mans name that had started with the naming of Castle 7005. Personally I loved 50 007 as Sir Edward - saw it fresh from repaint at Shrub Hill in the autumn of 1985. 007 is pretty marmite with its renaming. The livery looked fine, but it should never have been renamed when there was so many other locos unnamed (of other classes) at the time - The 50s in general had some great names, but 'Hercules' really suits a diesel loco. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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