Unusual and interesting coaches on Flickr

[BernardTPM]

On 13/09/2023 at 10:37, MJI said:

AFAIR only one of 2 gangwayed vehicles with B4s and not buckeyed, the other a 120 trailer

GWR Special saloon 9005 was fitted with B4 bogies in 1961, though since removed.

1 hour ago, nightstar.train said:

 

 

Did the GWR whitewash car get a new underframe, or the B4s put under it's original running gear?

Original underframe.

[MJI]

4 or 5 then,.

 

Quite interesting, but I only found the two when I first realised.

[Wickham Green too]

2 hours ago, nightstar.train said:

... LMS saloon 45000 was ... on a Mk1 underframe ... Bit odd that it didn't get new gangways and use a buckeye ...

Don't forget that Pullman Gangways are sprung the top ( little more than to keep the faces together ) as well as the base so the bodywork must be capable of taking the springs and resulting stresses. ( Easier to build into a bow end, too.)

[Trestrol]

3 hours ago, Wickham Green too said:

Don't forget that Pullman Gangways are sprung the top ( little more than to keep the faces together ) as well as the base so the bodywork must be capable of taking the springs and resulting stresses. ( Easier to build into a bow end, too.)

It's not impossible to do. You build a tunnel and mount the springs on that. The collision beams should take the forces as as you say it's only pushing the tops together. ECJS RTO 189 being restored by LNERCA is like this. It's on to it's fourth set of gangways in its life. Side, Gould(similar to MK1 gangways and still fitted to ECJS TK 12 in NRM) GNR Pullman and now modified LNER Pullman Gangways. This was fitted with a tunnel when converted in 1909 from side to Gould. They simply nailed up the side gangway door and bolted a tunnel to the flat end without any modification. When four prong Pullman Gangways near the end of its life holes were cut to take the top prongs. GNR style top springs were mounted in the vestibule ceiling with very little modification to support them. 

Edited September 14, 2023 by Trestrol

[Matt37268]

On 13/09/2023 at 18:19, montyburns56 said:

Beatties CCT, Bury 1999 by John Cordley

 

 

Have a feeling that may have been something to do with a 9F once based at Bury…? 

[nightstar.train]

A coach with a very fascinating history, bit ship of Theseus.

 

 

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Built at the Derby Carriage & Wagon Works in 1927 as a 57 ft. first class corridor brake coach with four full compartments and one half non-smoking ‘coupe’ one, a brake compartment and numbered 5033.

Finally withdrawn in November, 1960 and converted at Wolverton Carriage Works into an Inspection Saloon for the Chief Projects Officer of the West Coast Main Line Electrification scheme at a cost of £6,000 it returned to service in December, 1961 and was renumbered DM395707 in the departmental stock range of numbers.

Condemned in January,1965, a completely new wooden framed steel plated saloon body, but incorporating many original parts, was built at Wolverton, the last L.M.S. type to be built there and craftsmen took great pride in the quality of this replacement. Fitted to a B.R. Mark 1 brake second suburban coach underframe, ex M43232, which had been placed on ‘Commonwealth’ type bogies, it was now kept strictly available to the London Midland Region’s General Manager only and kept at Euston ready for use.

 

Still with us today and owned by the Princess Royal Locomotive Trust.

https://www.prclt.co.uk/6320-special-saloon.html

[Mike_Walker]

A classic "Trigger's Broom".

[Wickham Green too]

... or even Grandad's hammer ......... replace the components enough times and you end up with the ship of Theseus - or DM395707.

[woodenhead]

5 minutes ago, Wickham Green too said:

... or even Grandad's hammer ......... replace the components enough times and you end up with the ship of Theseus - or DM395707.

Or The Flying Scotsman

[Rugd1022]

Just found another LMS Sleeper shot in my hard rive, an ebay find taken at Oban in 1973...

 

 

 

 

 

[Rugd1022]

Wolverton Works, 17th May 1970...

 

[russ p]

21 minutes ago, Rugd1022 said:

Just found another LMS Sleeper shot in my hard rive, an ebay find taken at Oban in 1973...

 

 

 

 

 

 

Are they all LMS Nidge? 

[Rugd1022]

12 minutes ago, russ p said:

 

Are they all LMS Nidge? 

 

Looks that way to me Russ but happy to be corrected.

[keefer]

32 minutes ago, Rugd1022 said:

Just found another LMS Sleeper shot in my hard rive, an ebay find taken at Oban in 1973...

 

 

 

 

 

Robert Carroll has this pic and others in his Flickr collection

© Robert Carroll on Flickr

This and the next two are of a return Merrymaker Excursion from Euston to Oban 10/06/73.

Note the Sleepers have been fitted with ETH.

There is another pic of an LMS design Sleeper Second in May 1974.

He also has this, a 12-whl Sleeper First in 1968:

At Wolverton c.1968 © Robert Carroll on Flickr 

[montyburns56]

W80976 Guide Bridge 1978 by Geoff Dowling

 

 

[SHMD]

16 minutes ago, montyburns56 said:

W80976 Guide Bridge 1978 by Geoff Dowling

 

 

 

I remember seeing that. It was there for a long time and visible from the station platforms.

 

Thanks Monty.,

Kev.

 

[montyburns56]

Generator Van ADB975325 Paddington 1980 by Jamerail

 

 

[MJI]

15 minutes ago, montyburns56 said:

Generator Van ADB975325 Paddington 1980 by Jamerail

 

 

I will be modelling that need another 47, 2 BGs, another TFO and a TGS, plus of course TRUB to TRSB

[keefer]

4 hours ago, montyburns56 said:

Generator Van ADB975325 Paddington 1980 by Jamerail

 

 

Haven't seen many pics of the HST-Genny, this is a new one on me!

Does anyone know what's going on here? (i.e. what are those slightly-out-of-gauge yellow things?):

Edited September 21, 2023 by keefer

[keefer]

Another view courtesy of Brian Daniels' Flickr: https://flic.kr/p/9TKJE6

ADB975325 at Paddington:

(I've been aware of this pic for years and never noticed the 'appendages'!)

Edited September 21, 2023 by keefer

[russ p]

10 hours ago, keefer said:

Another view courtesy of Brian Daniels' Flickr: https://flic.kr/p/9TKJE6

ADB975325 at Paddington:

(I've been aware of this pic for years and never noticed the 'appendages'!)

 

It looks as if that section is an opening panel possibly to give access to the generator start batteries.  It's yellow things maybe some kind of locking mechanism for the  door

[eldomtom2]

On 13/09/2023 at 18:19, montyburns56 said:

Beatties CCT, Bury 1999 by John Cordley

 

 

Someone appears to have painted over most of the second E in "models & hobbies" so it reads "models & hobbits" instead!

[Nearholmer]

A stealthy attack by Games Workshop in the previously unreported ‘hobbyshop wars’.

[keefer]

6 hours ago, russ p said:

 

It looks as if that section is an opening panel possibly to give access to the generator start batteries.  It's yellow things maybe some kind of locking mechanism for the  door

Never even noticed the panel! 😄

[GordonC]

7 hours ago, russ p said:

 

It looks as if that section is an opening panel possibly to give access to the generator start batteries.  It's yellow things maybe some kind of locking mechanism for the  door

 

The yellow things look to be in the middle of the panel rather than on the outside for locking. The whole panel doesn't look like it has any hinges but a definite line around it separating it from the rest of the bodywork. Can that whole panel be slid out possibly and thats handles or lifting points if whats on the other side is weighty?