Peterborough North

[FarrMan]

18 hours ago, great northern said:

That resulted in the building of a subway, which lasted till Crescent Bridge opened in 1913, when Cowgate became a dead end. I'm pretty sure it was Cowgate all the way down, but I'm sure Lloyd will tell me if I'm wrong.

I have no idea. I never knew just what that section was called, but I have a feeling that you are right, as usual. I have never heard of the subway before the bridge was opened, but from the level of River Lane on the other side of the tracks, that sounds not improbable.

 

Thanks for the information.

 

Lloyd

[FarrMan]

18 hours ago, great northern said:

The next one is of the loading dock, which Peter had about half surfaced when Covid intervened. I tried to finish it off, but wasn't happy with what I did, so Peter has now done the job properly.

Looks good and as I remember it.

[FarrMan]

Spital Bridge looks so much better now. I makes quite a difference at that end. One wee point that I am not clear about. I do not recall a change in height of the parapet between the Midland and GNR sections of the bridge, though I do not clearly recall that the was not one there. Do you have any photos to show that? I know that a parapet continued across the Midland section of the bridge, and changed at the end to a wire fence, both sides of the road. I could see over the wire fence, but being rather altitudinaly challenged, I could not see over the parapet!

[great northern]

We will be seeing a lot of B1s on a Saturday, the next one being 61190 of Immingham, with the 8.08 KX-Skegness.

 

 

And there is another look at that 2P.

 

 

[great northern]

61190 again this morning, still going strong, although it is certainly over 25 years old. The real thing didn't get to live for anywhere near that long.

 

 

Definitely didn't get the colour balance right on this one.

 

 

Then I tried an all blue sky, but it doesn't look quite right to me.

 

 

[Bogie]

Although it does not look right - it looks like a genuine photo from the time.

[great northern]

On 31/05/2022 at 09:34, FarrMan said:

I have no idea. I never knew just what that section was called, but I have a feeling that you are right, as usual. I have never heard of the subway before the bridge was opened, but from the level of River Lane on the other side of the tracks, that sounds not improbable.

 

Thanks for the information.

 

Lloyd

I have photographs of it Lloyd, but can't put them on here because of copyright issues.

[great northern]

If things are running to time, and this early in the proceedings they still might be, this Doncaster-KX will be passing through at 9.48am.

 

 

The locomotive is Doncaster's own Patrick Stirling, seen again in the shadows a short while later.

 

 

[St Enodoc]

7 hours ago, great northern said:

If things are running to time, and this early in the proceedings they still might be, this Doncaster-KX will be passing through at 9.48am.

 

 

The locomotive is Doncaster's own Patrick Stirling, seen again in the shadows a short while later.

 

 

Looks good. The shadows look less shadowy than they used to, if you get my drift.

[great northern]

I think I mentioned that I'm basing my loco workings for Saturday on an article in one of the mags which gives a pretty complete account of what happened on a Saturday in August 1960, because I doubt that things changed that much during the intervening two years. That survey shows that Deltic took the 8.18 KX-Filey Holiday camp, so here it is, first from the loading bay...

 

 

and then while rumbling away during its station stop.

 

 

The loco is well off the platform, as the load was 13 bogies. Strange that on this day alone it was given a task that might enable it to show what it was capable of, whilst on week days it pottered around with only 8 or 9.

 

I think this image also shows how very much better photos taken from this side of the layout come out now.

[Flying Fox 34F]

14 hours ago, great northern said:

If things are running to time, and this early in the proceedings they still might be, this Doncaster-KX will be passing through at 9.48am.

 

 

The locomotive is Doncaster's own Patrick Stirling, seen again in the shadows a short while later.

 

 

Gilbert, 

 

Looks like Patrick Stirling decided to loose a Headlamp when he passed under the station roof?

It may even be sat on its side in thd 6 foot.

 

This Saturday sequence is very entertaining so far

 

Paul

[great northern]

12 minutes ago, Flying Fox 34F said:

Gilbert, 

 

Looks like Patrick Stirling decided to loose a Headlamp when he passed under the station roof?

It may even be sat on its side in thd 6 foot.

 

This Saturday sequence is very entertaining so far

 

Paul

Yes indeed, and I found it lying between sleepers a few days later. I wondered how it had got there. Now I know. I'm hoping that black tac will solve these problems, though so far it has't always worked. The lamps are so small that it is hard to attach enough to stick without it becoming too visible.

[great northern]

On 31/05/2022 at 09:45, FarrMan said:

Spital Bridge looks so much better now. I makes quite a difference at that end. One wee point that I am not clear about. I do not recall a change in height of the parapet between the Midland and GNR sections of the bridge, though I do not clearly recall that the was not one there. Do you have any photos to show that? I know that a parapet continued across the Midland section of the bridge, and changed at the end to a wire fence, both sides of the road. I could see over the wire fence, but being rather altitudinaly challenged, I could not see over the parapet!

I finally found a really good photo. The parapet over the Midland section appears to have been slightly lower, but not significantly so. After crossing those tracks, of course there is a fairly steep decline to ground level.

[great northern]

The Up Doncaster Parly also still ran in August 58, but would not do so for much longer, as the small intermediate stations were closed at the end of the summer timetable. 60500 is on duty this morning.

 

 

and is seen again after the train has terminated.

 

 

I really struggled to get any sort of colour and light balance with this one.

[great northern]

Lots of A1s to be seen already today, and here's another, 60114 with a non stop Leeds service, due through at 1005.

 

 

[FarrMan]

15 hours ago, great northern said:

I finally found a really good photo. The parapet over the Midland section appears to have been slightly lower, but not significantly so. After crossing those tracks, of course there is a fairly steep decline to ground level.

Many thanks, Gilbert. I do not remember that, but after 60 years and with out a good memory anyway, I must have been wrong on this one. I certainly remember the steep decline to ground level, especially in the eastern (i.e. GNR) side. That side had almost a standing start at the bottom as well. At least I could take a bit of a run on the Midland side on my push bike. There were very few hills  slopes in that area, and that and the eastern approach to Crescent Bridge were the worst other than from under the Oundle Road bridge up to that over the Midland line by East Station.

 

Re 'hills', I went to the opposite extreme when I was driving over the Bealach Na Ba 4 times a day - sea level up to 2000 feet and back down to sea level in 10 miles!

 

Memories!

 

Lloyd

[great northern]

A rear three quarter view of 60114, which I could never get till the lovely new lights arrived.

 

 

[great northern]

For some reason, the site wouldn't let me add a second image to the one above, so here it is anyway, just another WD groaning its way along the Down slow.

 

 

[great northern]

The WD is grinding slowly to the inevitable stop,

 

 

[stewartingram]

Surely that should be clanking its way...?

[great northern]

Something amiss, I suspect, as the cursor to allow me to post a second image no longer appears. here's the reason why the WD must wait. Quicksilver and the 8.40 KX-Edinburgh are approaching. Is there a gathering storm over PN?

 

 

[great northern]

5 hours ago, stewartingram said:

Surely that should be clanking its way...?

I was thinking more of brakes grinding. The driver would have shut off steam with adverse signals ahead.

[great northern]

Tonight we see Quicksilver running on through at the regulation 20 mph.

 

 

[great northern]

The WD waits, and the driver of the A4 is no doubt opening the regulator in anticipation of the end of the PSR.

 

 

I now have a cursor again, and so will attempt to show the formation the A4 is towing. There were several KX-Edinburgh workings on a Saturday, and this is fairly typical of their make up. I'n now being told I can only load three, so we'll see how we get on.

 

 

So far so good, I'll try the other three. No, won't have it, so I'll do another post.

 

 

 

 

 

[great northern]

The last six cars, I hope.

 

 

Almost all end door stock on these longer distance services, most of which have catering, usually RF/SO, but one or two had none.