RMweb Gold Graham_Muz Posted December 13, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 13, 2012 The postman brings news.Key Publishing (aka Hornby Magazine) announce B17/6 61662 'Manchester United' ( well,it had to be hadn't it) BR late crest,weathered. Delivery w/c 14 /01/2013, 750 units. Priced at £127.99 (p&p inc.). No. 411 reserved for me----apparently. Probably because I am a 'previous customer.'--Bachmann weathered 37. Shame the two locos missed each other by two years. My picture of the said Hornby Magazine limited edition can be found further back on this thread here Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Downer Posted December 13, 2012 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 13, 2012 Eventually someone must make Tottenham Hotspur, if only to keep my mum and brothers happy. Shame there was never an Ipswich Town... The problem with doing 61630 Tottenham Hotspur is that it requires both a GE tender, a football, and, for most of its 50s life at least, a five wash-plug boiler. As this is not a combination that Hornby have so far announced, modelling will be required. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obi-Jiff Kenobi Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 I'd prefer it in 1930s LNER livery - must do some research to see what modifications would be needed to any of the existing models. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilwell Park Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 The problem with doing 61630 Tottenham Hotspur is that it requires both a GE tender, a football, and, for most of its 50s life at least, a five wash-plug boiler. As this is not a combination that Hornby have so far announced, modelling will be required. Hi. I think if you buy 61637 & 61650 you could swap the tenders. That would give you a footballer with 5 wash plugs and a GE tender for Tottenham Hotspur. The 4 wash plug engine with an LNER tender could become 61647 Helmingham Hall which did not receive a 100A boiler till Feb 1958. It could of course become another footballer with the name of an inferior club. Roger. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 It was rumoured the very first B17 was named Oldham Athletic because of it's large experimental oblong firehole door that resembled an open goal but it was relegated to kicking wagons about in the works yard... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CUTLER2579 Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 It was rumoured the very first B17 was named Oldham Athletic because of it's large experimental oblong firehole door that resembled an open goal but it was relegated to kicking wagons about in the works yard... A brave man indeed Larry, but very amusing. Just noticed 61622 Alnwick Castle weatherd on e-bay (170958110838) already. FINGER ON THE PULSE. UNLIKE ME. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddieB Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 The postman brings news.Key Publishing (aka Hornby Magazine) announce B17/6 61662 'Manchester United' ( well,it had to be hadn't it) BR late crest,weathered. Delivery w/c 14 /01/2013, 750 units. Priced at £127.99 (p&p inc.). No. 411 reserved for me----apparently. Probably because I am a 'previous customer.'--Bachmann weathered 37. Shame the two locos missed each other by two years. Same here. It looks a lovely loco, and there was once (at least) a B17 on the Saffron Walden Branch - but I'm afraid that name would have to go! It was rumoured the very first B17 was named Oldham Athletic because of it's large experimental oblong firehole door that resembled an open goal but it was relegated to kicking wagons about in the works yard... Ouch! I fear you may get an attack of the Mumps! (I'd better explain that there's an Oldham railway connection in there). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian D Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 As an update to my previous post (#309) above I can also now confirm that my B17 Thorpe Hall is a superb runner. I don't think I have another steam loco that can move so slowly, literally creeping along (on DC Gaugemaster Combi). All in all then, a fantastic model, well worth the wait and highly recommended. I fancy another one, perhaps with a group standard tender Regards, Brian. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterH Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 A video and a few photos of 2800 'Sandringham'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordon s Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 My B17 Thorpe Hall turned up on Friday, so unpacked it and started the running in process that I do with all new locos. Left it running for 20 minutes or so, but returned to a loco that was running quite badly and unable to run at all at low speeds. Switched it off and left it until this morning to check. I was quite surprised to find the driving axles and other moving parts were devoid of lubrication. A few small drops in the all the correct areas and am pleased to say running is now very smooth. It's one of those things I just take for granted and may be just a one off, but worth checking to see if there are signs of lubrication before running. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ian Hargrave Posted December 16, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 16, 2012 Problems like this are,in my experience,not uncommon with new Hornby steam locos. Similar occurrences have happened with an A3,a 28xx,a Clan and a WC spamcan. ALWAYS check the motion visually for misalignment.Try in forward and reverse and never leave to its own devices whilst running -in. Gear sets are also sometimes a problem,particularly with rebuilt Bulleid WC & BB. Squeaks and grinding can also be heard occasionally and not always easy to eradicate with lubrication. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Great Bear Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 For my layout a B17/4 in LNER livery is what's appropriate. Perhaps they will announce one. That looks so good not sure my patience will last otherwise I may succomb and ignore the small tender. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 Such occurences with lack of lubrication and ill fitting parts are quite scary. One of my Hornby Fowler 2-6-4T's only runs forward but not backwards now. Don't ask me why but I wlll check for lubrication now. My locos have hardly run since purchase but the big tank was used to test track wiring recently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
flapland Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 Same here. It looks a lovely loco, and there was once (at least) a B17 on the Saffron Walden Branch - but I'm afraid that name would have to go! Ouch! I fear you may get an attack of the Mumps! (I'd better explain that there's an Oldham railway connection in there). Werneth you believe it, this forum has stooped to slagging off Oldham Athletic ;-) Still keep half an eye on Latics even though I am not a big football fan and live in London. I was born at Boundrary Park Hospital hence the interest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwealleans Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 Those pictures above.... nice looking loco and all that, but it ought to have white lining on the bufferbeam. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
micklner Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 Those pictures above.... nice looking loco and all that, but it ought to have white lining on the bufferbeam. Not my area of the LNER Should it also have Class and Type too on the Bufferbeam ? Would the Cylinders been lined Red too ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 2800 'Sandringham' is not in original livery. 2800-9 were the last new engines to carry numbers on their tenders. The model is representative of the repaints, whenever that took place. Any that were repainted prior to 1938 lost their classification indication, as this was not adopted as a group practice at this time. As has been mentioned, the bufferbeam should carry black & white lining. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy M Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 Hi all, Not being fully conversant with the mystical east, I have a question for anyone who has seen the LNER Green 'Sandringham'. On viewing what appears to be a beautiful model, I was left feeling the rendition of the Apple Green was a touch dark. I'm aware that Doncaster and Darlington shades were quite distinct but what is the consensus of Hornby's version? I want to rename/number one as 2841 Gayton Hall, as I lived next door to the place for 12 years. Opinions welcomed. Regards, Andy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Hill Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 Eventually someone must make Tottenham Hotspur, if only to keep my mum and brothers happy. Shame there was never an Ipswich Town... I hoping they make the opposite to Tottenham Hotspur myself but have a feeling I could be waiting a while as I think 61648 was one of the last of the previous tooling to be released. Like you I'd prefer an LNER Apple Green version as 2848 and Hornby have yet to announce a B17 with a North East area tender in Apple Green. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Black Hat Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 I didnt think the LNER used disks for train headcode reporting. I stand to be corrected though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernard Lamb Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 I didnt think the LNER used disks for train headcode reporting. I stand to be corrected though. Stand corrected. The former GE lines did. I am having second thoughts about getting one. I can name it Danbury Palace after the house where I was born. Bernard Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Black Hat Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 Stand corrected. The former GE lines did. I am having second thoughts about getting one. I can name it Danbury Palace after the house where I was born. Bernard I stand corrected. Interesting that the GE lines did adopt this and I guess you learn something new with this hobby. Hopefully your model will be a Darlington example from up north - you know where the real engines come from! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Colin Posted December 17, 2012 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 17, 2012 The forthcoming "Grimsby Town" (which I have preordered) is listed as being a B17/2. My personal favourite is 61672 "West Ham United" which I understand is a B17/6. I was wondering, what are the differences and how easy would it be to make a B17/6 out of a B17/2? Or should I perhaps cancel my order in the hope a B17/6 appears one day? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernard Lamb Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 The forthcoming "Grimsby Town" (which I have preordered) is listed as being a B17/2. My personal favourite is 61672 "West Ham United" which I understand is a B17/6. I was wondering, what are the differences and how easy would it be to make a B17/6 out of a B17/2? Or should I perhaps cancel my order in the hope a B17/6 appears one day? Going by the RCTS Green Book. Grimsby Town got a new 100a boiler which turned it from a B17/2 into a B17/6 in 2/55 West Ham United got a new 100a boiler in 9/50 so was a B17/2 only up to that date. From that I assume that the Hornby model of Grimsby Town will be correct for the early 1950s. I also assume that it is in BR green. Seeing how Hornby did the various boiler variants for the A3s eventually I would expeect them to do the same with this class. I would not hold my breath though. New boiler has different holes. WHU was also Westinghouse fitted. The more I look at this class the more complicated I find it. Bernard Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knapper Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 The forthcoming "Grimsby Town" (which I have preordered) is listed as being a B17/2. My personal favourite is 61672 "West Ham United" which I understand is a B17/6. I was wondering, what are the differences and how easy would it be to make a B17/6 out of a B17/2? Or should I perhaps cancel my order in the hope a B17/6 appears one day? Grimsby Town is actually a B17/6, and is now available for order from Hornby, so should hopefully be with retailers in the next few days (the DCC fitted anyway). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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