Northern Maiden Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 Was wondering the same thing myself. Given the calibre of the 22 and other recent releases I think it'll be worth the wait though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trevor H Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 Was wondering the same thing myself. Given the calibre of the 22 and other recent releases I think it'll be worth the wait though Same here. Compared to the cl22 thread, the input on info that Dapol Dave is asking for, seems a bit lacking on this thread. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DapolDave Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 Hi guys, i hope to be able to post the cad/cam of the class 29 here relatively soon. cheers Dave 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Maiden Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 Hi guys, i hope to be able to post the cad/cam of the class 29 here relatively soon. cheers Dave Cheers Dave Looking forward to seeing those. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
'CHARD Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 Same here. Compared to the cl22 thread, the input on info that Dapol Dave is asking for, seems a bit lacking on this thread. I launched a resource awa o'er here some time ago: http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/47894-sad-eyed-people-the-class-21-and-29-livery-resource/ 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
spackz Posted March 26, 2012 Author Share Posted March 26, 2012 Hi guys, i hope to be able to post the cad/cam of the class 29 here relatively soon. cheers Dave Cheers Dave, Its good to know they are in progress and the experts on here can have thier input into this project, although I doubt there will be as many than with the Western. Just to clarify are you doing the class 29 with centre headcode first, if so are the current catalogue numbers going to change as the Class 29's never wore BR plain green livery as stated with numbers 1001A/B/C. Does this mean you will be doing the 1002A/B/C first and then backdating to Class 21 with disc headcodes? Regards Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Reid Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 (edited) Is it not just as straightforward as the list Paul? BR Green (no warning panel) 21s with discs, and 29s (in three flavours) with route indicators - or am I missing something because the it seems correct? Class 21 D1001a D6112 BR Green no yellow warning panel D1001b D6134 BR Green no yellow warning panel D1001c D6150 BR Green no yellow warning panel Class 29 D1002a D6130 BR Green full yellow warning panel D1002b D6114 BR Green small yellow warning panel D1002c D6100 BR Blue full yellow warning panel Hopefully a Class 21 with GSYP will follow in due course - sales permitting! Edited March 26, 2012 by Bob-65b 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pennine MC Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 (edited) Is it not just as straightforward as the list Paul? BR Green (no warning panel) 21s with discs, and 29s (in three flavours) with route indicators - or am I missing something because the it seems correct? [snip] Confirmed Bob, FWIW - maybe not the best choices, but no reason to think any are incorrect from that info. Edited March 26, 2012 by Pennine MC 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Reid Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 (edited) Thanks Ian, I wondered if I'd missed a bit in the thread/s....(maybe the elusive 6123 or the "arguable 6121/6122)! Edited March 26, 2012 by Bob-65b Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
spackz Posted March 26, 2012 Author Share Posted March 26, 2012 Is it not just as straightforward as the list Paul? BR Green (no warning panel) 21s with discs, and 29s (in three flavours) with route indicators - or am I missing something because the it seems correct? Class 21 D1001a D6112 BR Green no yellow warning panel D1001b D6134 BR Green no yellow warning panel D1001c D6150 BR Green no yellow warning panel Class 29 D1002a D6130 BR Green full yellow warning panel D1002b D6114 BR Green small yellow warning panel D1002c D6100 BR Blue full yellow warning panel Hopefully a Class 21 with GSYP will follow in due course - sales permitting! Thats what I thought, it was only the fact that DapolDave said Class 29 CAD/CAM no mention of the Class 21, this made me think that only the Class 29 was being done and maybe there was a change of plan. They are probably being done at the same time I think Dave has said that he has designed special insert plates so the 21 can be done as well. Just me being a mong and to eager to have an early plain green 21 to run on my Eastern region layout. Cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trevor H Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 (edited) Their was quite a lot of differences between the two classes, not just the front ends. So I imagine one will be done first, then followed by the other, much like the disc headcode D63xx. I guess with the interchangeable slides this shouldn't be a problem. I'm sure Dave will be along to explain all. Edited March 26, 2012 by Trevor H Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Reid Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 The front ends and livery is the best way too keep the descriptions short though Trevor (and judging by the number of previous threads modifying the Hornby version no shortage of folk with all the details! Failing that you end with this http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/50702-no-more-class-27s/page__view__findpost__p__609415 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Maiden Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 Is it not just as straightforward as the list Paul? BR Green (no warning panel) 21s with discs, and 29s (in three flavours) with route indicators - or am I missing something because the it seems correct? Class 21 D1001a D6112 BR Green no yellow warning panel D1001b D6134 BR Green no yellow warning panel D1001c D6150 BR Green no yellow warning panel Class 29 D1002a D6130 BR Green full yellow warning panel D1002b D6114 BR Green small yellow warning panel D1002c D6100 BR Blue full yellow warning panel Hopefully a Class 21 with GSYP will follow in due course - sales permitting! My purse was getting hit for 2 of these...now its looking like 3! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baby Deltic Posted April 2, 2012 Share Posted April 2, 2012 Definately D6112 and D6134 GNYP for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScRSG Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 Still no news on progress or release dates yet? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DapolDave Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 Hi ScRSG, sorry but apart from my posting above on the 26th March, i have nothing to add until the catalogue comes out. However i am intending to put out a rather long press release stating progress on various models, both announced and NEW ones, with a proposed delivery quarter etc. please bear with me. cheers Dave 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
spackz Posted April 26, 2012 Author Share Posted April 26, 2012 Just found this pick of a class 21 in what I think was its best livery, its the first time I've come across a good photo of this loco on the net. Definately looking forward to this variant from Dapol. http://www.flickr.com/photos/blue-diesels/6719790929/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 Glasgow queen st 1969. http://www.flickr.com/photos/37028493@N07/4148319292/ 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Max Stafford Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 The prospect of 21s and 29s is giving me stirrings... D. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Reid Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 Hopefully that's stirring in the North-Easterly direction Dave - sticking to 12" to the foot models for the Border Badland's Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScRSG Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 Now that Dapol appear to have announced that only Class 29's will be produced in the foreseeable future, I have some questions :- 1. Arte all first releases wth centre headcodes? I have just discovered a picture of D6123 in two tone green ( therefore as Class 29) still with original disc headcodes, so is this the form this one will take? 2. If this is the case what are the visible differences between a Class 21 and a Class 29, difficult for amere novice like me to tell from photos. Basically can you do a 21 from a 29? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Max Stafford Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 Only 6123 ran as a class 29 with a disc headcode since she was the original prototype for the rebuild. Once the rebuilding programme got into gear in 1965, the four-character headcode became standard as did the two-tone green livery. If you're looking at a photo of an NBL with disc headcode and in plain green you can rest assured it's a 21 - especially if it's dumped in a siding or in one of Scotland's more remote depots! Dave. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sulzer27jd Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 Now that Dapol appear to have announced that only Class 29's will be produced in the foreseeable future, I have some questions :- A strange option given that the steam/diesel era seems to be so popular as I would have thought then that the 21 would have been the better choice. Or perhaps that just me being hopeful. From a personal point of view it would be a big disappointment if it was just to be the 29. And of course the dilemma - do you convert the 29's and complete the project just as the 21's are released or do you wait with fingers crossed. I do hope Dapol confirm their plans as the speculation cannot be helpful. J 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DapolDave Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 Hi, To avoid speculation (or unfortunately perhaps increase it), i can confirm the following. 1) The 29 will be the first model type of this 'class' to be produced 2) The 21 was dropped from the catalogue simply because although we will be doing it after the 29, i cannot give a definite time frame within the next 18 months. 3) The main reason for doing the 29 first is that we have access to a large scale accurate model that we will laser scan as a basis for our model, and then subsequently putting slides in the tooling to allow for backdating etc to a 21. (like we have with the 22) makes life easier. 4) Yes we are producing a 4th 29 and yes we know it will have a disc headcode (the benefits of slides). 5) It will be PLuX22 compatible. 6) It will have a 'clip in' cab as per the Western to allow for modellers to add crew etc. Hope this helps cheers Dave 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
'CHARD Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 That sounds like a very pragmatic approach, Dave. I think both are set to be popular models, their area of operation, duties and time frames are distictly different. I don't think that amongst the more serious end of the hobby (as I would regard the Class 22 market) the ability to get hold of 29s earlier will dull the enthusiasm for the 21s when they arrive. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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