RMweb Premium newbryford Posted March 1, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 1, 2014 70804 at Westbury this morning. The real reason I was there - 44932 arriving with the Cathedrals Express to Cardiff Who put that kettle in the way? Cheers, Mick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dvdlcs Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 Hello. Apologies if this has been mentioned previously, but considering their differing origins are there any detail differences between 70801 and the remainder of the Colas batch? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted March 2, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 2, 2014 I dont think there is much difference between 801 and the rest, apart from the yellow ends being different Those who have driven the new 70s (and used to work the old ones for freightliner) sat that they are different to the original batch (which would maybe explain why they were delayed coming off the docks by a paperwork issue) I'm on one tomorrow and ca'nt wait!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yorkie_pudd Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 I dont think there is much difference between 801 and the rest, apart from the yellow ends being different Those who have driven the new 70s (and used to work the old ones for freightliner) sat that they are different to the original batch (which would maybe explain why they were delayed coming off the docks by a paperwork issue) I'm on one tomorrow and ca'nt wait!! Don't forget the magic tree air freshener and fluffy dice accessories to take out the new blankness look of the cab Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium jbqfc Posted March 2, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 2, 2014 can anyone tell me the numbers of the colas 70 and 66 that top and tail a engineers train through Crawley at 5.30 this morning to dark to get them thanks john Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack374 Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 Anyone (Jim?) know when I might see one up north (Preston way on?) Not that I desire to see a 'cugly', just another number in my Ian Allen ABC... ..... Jack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Godfrey Glyn Posted March 2, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 2, 2014 I'm sorry but having seen one in the metal at Eastleigh station this evening I can only wonder how a manufacturer can produce such an ugly looking locomotive and then have a design team from the operators specify a livery that makes it look even more ugly. Godfrey 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yorkie_pudd Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 I'm sorry but having seen one in the metal at Eastleigh station this evening I can only wonder how a manufacturer can produce such an ugly looking locomotive and then have a design team from the operators specify a livery that makes it look even more ugly. Godfrey I say like as in agree about loco design shape ugly non- aerodynamic, but disagree on colas colour scheme as it`s simple, not in your face and colourful unlike all these other modern fleet colours. I guess the only thing that matters is will they still be earning their keep in 5 - 10 or even 20 years time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Trainshed Terry Posted March 2, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 2, 2014 But will they make 60 years of services like the current 37. 31 and 20, 47 that are still running today # I say like as in agree about loco design shape ugly non- aerodynamic, but disagree on colas colour scheme as it`s simple, not in your face and colourful unlike all these other modern fleet colours. I guess the only thing that matters is will they still be earning their keep in 5 - 10 or even 20 years time. Terry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted March 3, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 3, 2014 I'm sorry but having seen one in the metal at Eastleigh station this evening I can only wonder how a manufacturer can produce such an ugly looking locomotive and then have a design team from the operators specify a livery that makes it look even more ugly. Godfrey Yesterday I saw an FL one approaching from the distance for the first time and thought it looked rather good (honest) as the two bulbous bits on the front aren't very obvious as it closes in from the distance. Made a rather nice noise as well plus a bit grubby which gave it a bit of character. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trisonic Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 They grow on you, like Roses........and you're right, Mike, it's the sound of America. Best, Pete. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NXEA! Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 Personally I find the aesthetics of the 70's to pleasing. There's nothing quite like them running on UK metals, I think whilst they may be considered the ugly-duckling of the modern heavy-haul fleet, they have a lot of character and are very distinctive. Looks aside, the engine scream is one hell of a noise to witness! And as we all know thrash is key to how good a loco is... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Godfrey Glyn Posted March 3, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 3, 2014 Well I popped back into the station this morning to see if the Colas 70 looked any better in full daylight. Obviously beauty is in the eye of the beholder so for those of you who appreciate the shape and the sympathetically applied livery I offer you these shots. Sorry I couldn't get the other side! Enjoy! Godfrey 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewartingram Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 Awful. At least a 16 had character. Stewart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RCAR6015 Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 Message information from a Yahoo group page = Colas 70804 on todays 6M50 07:55 Westbury - Bescot. Reported at 08:03 today passing Melksham Sevice currently showing - departed Hinksey Yard - Oxford then via Banbury 13:30 - Leamington Spa - Coventry - Nuneaton - Water Orton approx. 15:24 - Walsall - Bescot approx. 16-00 times off Real Time Trains Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RCAR6015 Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 Message information from a Yahoo group page = Colas 70804 on todays 6M50 07:55 Westbury - Bescot. Reported at 08:03 today passing Melksham Sevice currently showing - departed Hinksey Yard - Oxford then via Banbury 13:30 - Leamington Spa - Coventry - Nuneaton - Water Orton approx. 15:24 - Walsall - Bescot approx. 16-00 times off Real Time Trains 70804 repored through Oxford @ 12:03 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RCAR6015 Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 70804 repored through Oxford @ 12:03 70804 repored through Oxford @ 12:03 Now reported through Leamington Spa @ 12:58 ( running 58 minutes early!! ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted March 3, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 3, 2014 Awful. At least a 16 had character. Stewart ISTR that the 16 was also notorious at catching fire............ Cheers, Mick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisB Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 I'm sorry but having seen one in the metal at Eastleigh station this evening I can only wonder how a manufacturer can produce such an ugly looking locomotive and then have a design team from the operators specify a livery that makes it look even more ugly. Godfrey I like the Colas livery but it doesn't suit the Cl 70 at all and, IMHO, emphasises the awkward areas of the styling rather than complimenting it or disguising it. The Freightliner livery, I think, works better . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted March 3, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 3, 2014 I like the Colas livery but it doesn't suit the Cl 70 at all and, IMHO, emphasises the awkward areas of the styling rather than complimenting it or disguising it. The Freightliner livery, I think, works better . Don't worry - whatever livery it is it will soon get nice and grubby and toned-down (or burnt off). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RCAR6015 Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 Message information from a Yahoo group page = Colas 70804 on todays 6M50 07:55 Westbury - Bescot. Reported at 08:03 today passing Melksham Sevice currently showing - departed Hinksey Yard - Oxford then via Banbury 13:30 - Leamington Spa - Coventry - Nuneaton - Water Orton approx. 15:24 - Walsall - Bescot approx. 16-00 times off Real Time Trains Real time trains list a 19:00 Bescot UP Engrs Sidings to Westbury Down TC ( arrive 02:45 ) via the Sutton Park line - Landore St. Junct - Solihull - Leamington Spa. Anyone know if 70804 will return on this service this evening? Or will it go to the Colas - Washwood Heath Depot in Birmingham for crew training? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RCAR6015 Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 70804 reported on Realtime trains: 6M50 Westbury / Bescot through Coventry @ 13:50 ( 27 early ) heading for Nuneaton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satan's Goldfish Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 Well I popped back into the station this morning to see if the Colas 70 looked any better in full daylight. Obviously beauty is in the eye of the beholder so for those of you who appreciate the shape and the sympathetically applied livery I offer you these shots. Sorry I couldn't get the other side! Enjoy!Godfrey Nice work, you just need to weather it now............... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted March 3, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 3, 2014 (edited) Real time trains list a 19:00 Bescot UP Engrs Sidings to Westbury Down TC ( arrive 02:45 ) via the Sutton Park line - Landore St. Junct - Solihull - Leamington Spa. Anyone know if 70804 will return on this service this evening? Or will it go to the Colas - Washwood Heath Depot in Birmingham for crew training? yes, 70804 will be on this service, in fact were all ready to roll from bescot!! were just away from the loco having a break in the cabin before we head back as far as hinksey, its hardly the most taxing of loads for it, only 500 tons, the load into bescot was 1800 tons and i must admit i am very impressed by the performance and ride of the 70 so far (im not driving, only conducting) EDIT: accidentally deleted the post when i meant to edit it! Edited March 3, 2014 by big jim 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RCAR6015 Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 " A massive Thank You to big jim for the heads-up " on the last posting. Just back for Dorridge Station having seen 70804 on the return - Bescot to Westbury working!! Having followed it for many hours to-day on RTT I finally caught up with it @ 21:15. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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