a4mallard Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 (edited) Hi Ron, I've been following your tread for a while, outstanding work. Just wondering would you put something up on youtube. Maybe like a tutorial on your card building, anything at all,I think it would be well received. regards bren Edited November 8, 2013 by a4mallard Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mow Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 It is always a pleasure to read about this project. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 Have you seen these Ron, they're from a photo stream covering the Stockport hauliers, Edward Beck & Sons. These two show the Deansgate/Liverpool Road junction. They may be of some interest. http://www.flickr.com/photos/edward_beck/6510455249/in/photostream/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/edward_beck/6436833869/in/photostream/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Heggs Posted November 8, 2013 Author Share Posted November 8, 2013 Hi Ron, I've been following your tread for a while, outstanding work. Just wondering would you put something up on youtube. Maybe like a tutorial on your card building, anything at all,I think it would be well received. regards bren Hi, Bren Now this could be a problem no smartphone or camera with movie function Maybe something for the future Cheers Ron Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Heggs Posted November 8, 2013 Author Share Posted November 8, 2013 Have you seen these Ron, they're from a photo stream covering the Stockport hauliers, Edward Beck & Sons. These two show the Deansgate/Liverpool Road junction. They may be of some interest. http://www.flickr.com/photos/edward_beck/6510455249/in/photostream/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/edward_beck/6436833869/in/photostream/ Hi, Arthur Thanks, have downloaded these two pictures plus a third one I already have five other pictures of Beck's on Whitworth St. West Cheers Ron 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Heggs Posted November 8, 2013 Author Share Posted November 8, 2013 Been having a go at producing a ladder from 10thou x 25thou & 10thou x 15thou styrene strip - Result of using Butanone - ... and Superglue - - undecided whether to go with this or get them etched Probably end up with etches, as they would look closer to the prototype and withstand handling much better Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
artizen Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 You just answered your own question, Ron. Etches it is then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheesysmith Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 ron, that ladder needs posting as a example to everyone to not give up . post them photos with photos of the station roof as a motto to never give up and never too old to learn . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portchullin Tatty Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 - undecided whether to go with this or get them etched MSE do a very good etch for ladders; they look very good and are going to be massively more robust. Look at my Highland Miscellany thread and you will see them used on my signals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Heggs Posted November 12, 2013 Author Share Posted November 12, 2013 MSE do a very good etch for ladders; they look very good and are going to be massively more robust. Look at my Highland Miscellany thread and you will see them used on my signals. Hi, Mark Thanks for that information Your thread pictures look as though the ladders will certainly be suitable, and they will certainly cut the cost of a one off etch Cheers Ron Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Heggs Posted November 12, 2013 Author Share Posted November 12, 2013 Have been painting the outside walls of the villa over the weekend, so progress on the layout has been slow The area of the trackwork from CLC Deansgate Bridge towards the Train Shed has now been drilled with holes for the 68 track supply droppers from the section of trackwork with 13 turnouts. The whole area has also been covered with 2mm cork sheet The section of trackwork will be turned over, and the appropriate coloured flexible wire extensions soldered to the droppers. The trackwork will then be placed in its final location with the wire extensions/droppers threaded through the drilled holes - terminations, etc. at a later date All the viaduct walls/arches/bridge parapets are now in place on the north side of the approach tracks. The south side viaduct walls/arches/bridge parapet are underway - the 12 arches by the canal are being detailed - a bit of a mix Pictures of progress on Thursday Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
26power Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 Other ladder kit suppliers: Colin Craig: http://colincraig4mm.co.uk/#/ladders/4532597771 Masokits, page 9 here: http://www.scalefour.org/masokits/index.html No experience of either, but hopefully of potential use to you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Heggs Posted November 15, 2013 Author Share Posted November 15, 2013 No pictures yet, as following more villa painting my right wrist developed a bit of a strain injury, so couldn't complete the viaduct detailing Instead I have been trying to develop an idea for working theatre displays - the multiple electric lamp matrix type. The layout needs two types - outward bound alphabetic display , and inward bound numeric display Three of each type will be required on the CLC Deansgate Bridge gantries. The platforms will also require additional displays Option 1 : SMD LEDs 0603 size would probably be suitable - extremely delicate soldering required - a minimum of 26 insulated wires Option 2: 0.5mm optical fibres - 31 required - minimum bend radius 3mm - 13 LEDs to provide the illumination Alphanumeric display: The size of the actual display matrix is 8mm wide x 4mm high, and the theatre display dimensions would be 11mm wide x 8mm high x 5mm deep, the hood protrudes 3.5mm to the front Numeric display: Display matrix is 4.5mm wide x 4mm high, and the theatre display dimensions would be 7mm wide x 8mm high x 5mm deep with the hood protruding 3.5mm to the front Have ordered the optical fibres and LEDs, and will be building the display casing for the test item from styrene ready for the fibre strands when they arrive Will show build when it's started - subject to wrist recovery and villa painting on hold Ron 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Heggs Posted November 18, 2013 Author Share Posted November 18, 2013 (edited) Signalling Equipment - Theatre Display The design of this item of equipment is based on employing fibre optic strands 0.5mm dia with white LEDs as the light sourceThe display will show pairs of alphabetic characters in a 5x7 matrix A smaller version will show single numeric characters in a 5x5 matrixThe strands will be spaced a 1mm centresThe test build will employ styrene, as it is easier and quicker to make modificationsA number of tests at constructing the matrix plate i.e. the plate holding the 35 0.5mm dia strands at 1mm centres were not exactly plain sailing. If the overall design is successful then in the production items this component will be etched brass For Manchester Central only 31 of the 35 strands will be operational due to the characters being displayed Typical dimensions The arrangement shows the list of strands required to be lit to display specific characters/numbers The letters chosen would display departure routes display - DS - Down Slow DF - Down Fast M - Middle US - Up Slow UF - Up Fast An anomoly at Manchester Central was that routes to London were Up, and routes to Liverpool were Down. The Middle route was to Cornbrook Carriage sidings and Trafford Park loco shed The numbers would display the arrival platforms 1 - 9 A typical attempt at producing the matrix of 0.5mm dia holes in 20thou styrene - not perfect by any means, but will suffice for the proving of the design Edit: There are 18 not 17 LEDs for the numeric display Edited November 18, 2013 by Ron Heggs 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNERGE Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 Some pictures posted today here.. http://rcts.org.uk/features/mysteryphotos/show.htm?serial=1&img=67-002-12 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the penguin of doom Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 I might have missed this Ron, but why does one block of LEDs appear to be 5 x 4 and the other 5 x 3. It's a fascinating section of the project and teastament to what can be achieved in such a small space. Cheers. Sean. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Heggs Posted November 18, 2013 Author Share Posted November 18, 2013 I might have missed this Ron, but why does one block of LEDs appear to be 5 x 4 and the other 5 x 3. It's a fascinating section of the project and teastament to what can be achieved in such a small space. Cheers. Sean. Hi, Sean The horizontal spacing should be 1mm, not as shown where the left & right spacings are 0.75mm - an earlier, but erroneous layout Cheers Ron 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Stubby47 Posted November 18, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 18, 2013 (edited) I love the 'infinity' dimension in the top left diagram of the front elevation (ok, I know it's an '8' on its side...) Edited November 18, 2013 by Stubby47 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Heggs Posted November 18, 2013 Author Share Posted November 18, 2013 I love the 'infinity' dimension in the top left diagram of the front elevation theatre_head.JPG (ok, I know it's an '8' on its side...) Is infinity any smaller in 4mm scale ? 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium jamie92208 Posted November 19, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 19, 2013 Is infinity any smaller in 4mm scale ? Can't tell it's too big for me to get my calipers round it. Jamie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Heggs Posted November 19, 2013 Author Share Posted November 19, 2013 (edited) Took some time out to produce the intial wiring diagrams for the Theatre Displays - Alpha Display wiring diagram - As this is a test arrangement, to ensure that the supply is not overloaded only one of the switch options (DS,DF,M,US,UF) will be selected at a time Numeric Display wiring diagram - As this is a test arrangement, to ensure that the supply is not overloaded only one of the switch options (1 to 9) will be selected at a time Eventually these will be integrated with the signalling selection process/operation Any comments would be much appreciated Edited November 19, 2013 by Ron Heggs 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve K Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 Any comments would be much appreciated I don't suppose "flippin' heck!" is of much use? Sorry, but that was the first thing that came to mind. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Heggs Posted November 19, 2013 Author Share Posted November 19, 2013 The LEDs, Resistors and Fibre Optic strands have all been despatched,now hoping that they might turn up this weekend. Have 100's of diodes from a number of previous projects, having built a routing matrix board for the layout back in 2009 Ron Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Stubby47 Posted November 19, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 19, 2013 Ron, In the upper diagram you have 'M' as needing 2,6,8,9,10 and 12 - I don't think you need 10. Stu Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Heggs Posted November 19, 2013 Author Share Posted November 19, 2013 Ron, In the upper diagram you have 'M' as needing 2,6,8,9,10 and 12 - I don't think you need 10. Stu Hi, Stu Thanks for that - you are quite right - 10 is not needed Revised diagram Cheers Ron 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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