RMweb Gold Worsdell forever Posted October 24, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted October 24, 2015 Paul, Did you have to adjust the wheelbase of the more close axles to compensate for the extra flange depth? P No, wish I had though, they're only just touching so hopefully taking a bit off the flanges will do it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axlebox Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 ...be careful Paul, you're halfway to P4 if you start messing with your flanges...next thing you know you'll start getting twitchy with the track gauges... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mark Forrest Posted October 25, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 25, 2015 P4 wheels gauged for EM track? Would that redress the balance of those who use EM wheels in P4? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 P4 wheels gauged for EM track? It worked for me but that was the start of the slippery slope. P Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefrk Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 No, wish I had though, they're only just touching so hopefully taking a bit off the flanges will do it. Be careful Paul, they're trying to entice you in and once they've got you there's no escape.... You'll be climbing all over Presflo wagons or building television sized layouts next.... Dave Franks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 or building television sized layouts next.... ...but what vistas that opens up to one. P 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikemeg Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 (edited) Paul, Did you have to adjust the wheelbase of the more close axles to compensate for the extra flange depth? P Paul, If you look at LNER Encyclopeadia, on t'Internet, for the '1001' class (search NER 1275 engine), there is a photo of No 2259 of this class. This photo seems to show a different wheelbase, with a much greater separation between the second and third driving wheel sets to 1275, the preserved 1001. Did 1275, which was the last surviving 1001, have loco brakes fitted; the photos tend to suggest not or perhaps they were removed when 1275 was restored to original condition. I don't know much about this class as they are too early for my layout but was the wheelbase changed, at some time through the building of these locos or were they rebuilt at some point with a changed wheelbase arrangement? Certainly the photo of 2259 shows the loco fitted with brakes on all three sets of driving wheels, with ample clearances for the brakes. As initially built, with the very close positioning of the middle and rear driving wheelsets, even allowing for the overscale wheel flanges of model wheels, there seems to be inadequate clearance to accommodate a brake hangar and brake shoe and allow for the brake throw, between the wheel tyres on the prototype 1001's. Also, the splashers on 2259 are different from those on the preserved 1275 in that the small splasher extensions, to accommodate the top (12 o'clock) of the throw of the journal oil boxes, through the footplate, are absent on 2259. I wonder if the NER rebuilt any of these with smaller driving wheels i.e. their standard 4' 7 and 1/4" instead of the 5' 0 and 1/2" as built. Regards Mike . Edited October 25, 2015 by mikemeg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pebbles Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 According to Maclean (pages 58 & 59) class 1001 engines were built with 4ft and 5ft 01/2inch driving wheels. The quoted wheelbase was 7ft 7inches and 5ft 3 inches making a total wheelbase of 11ft 10 inches. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Worsdell forever Posted October 25, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted October 25, 2015 The 1001 class was a group of similar locos rather than a single design, all were if course were short wheelbase (long boiler) locos. 1275 had loco brakes in it's last years, there's a photo in Yeadon, they will have been removed on preservation. It will stay EM by the way... 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikemeg Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 The 1001 class was a group of similar locos rather than a single design, all were if course were short wheelbase (long boiler) locos. 1275 had loco brakes in it's last years, there's a photo in Yeadon, they will have been removed on preservation. It will stay EM by the way... Paul, And I think you can be pretty well assured that Arthur won't announce a kit for this, just as you complete it!! Regards Mike Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Worsdell forever Posted October 26, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted October 26, 2015 A good night's work and now I have a pickups and a working chassis, I've also finished cutting out the footplate and soldered on the fixing nuts. 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Worsdell forever Posted October 27, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted October 27, 2015 Another good session tonight, brake shoes fitted to the front two axles, buffer beam, drag beam, valances and buffers attached to the footplate. I've also cut out the cab front and one of the cab side/roof pieces, it looks a bit odd but I hope it will work ok. 12 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium wagonbasher Posted October 28, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 28, 2015 Another good session tonight, brake shoes fitted to the front two axles, buffer beam, drag beam, valances and buffers attached to the footplate. I've also cut out the cab front and one of the cab side/roof pieces, it looks a bit odd but I hope it will work ok. IMGP8802-001.JPG IMGP8800-001.JPG IMGP8801-001.JPG That is looking great... Do you have a photo of the prototype that you can post please? Andy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Worsdell forever Posted October 28, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted October 28, 2015 No photos online of it, you'd have to rummage around old musty books! A 'generic' 1001 here. http://www.lner.info/locos/J/ner_1001.php One of the Rosedale ones on page 6 here. http://www.rosedalerailway.org.uk/OPERATION%20OF%20THE%20LINE%20(revised).pdf 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Worsdell forever Posted October 29, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted October 29, 2015 Lots of progress tonight, the cab put together, firebox opened out and the cut out made into the boiler for the motor done and the smokebox wrapper fitted. The inner wrapper is a length of the next size tube up and the outer one has had rivets punched in with the rivet press and then rolled with the roller, a great investment already! All loosely sat in place. 16 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Worsdell forever Posted November 2, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted November 2, 2015 After a weekend away up Wensleydale and eating too much cheese* it's back to the 1001, I've made the main splashers tonight and fitted them, there will be smaller ones outside of these to clear the oil pots on the rods. *and drinking too much beer... 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
waggy Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 I'm a bit confused Paul. How long has Leeds been in Wensleydale ? Excellent work as always. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Worsdell forever Posted November 3, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted November 3, 2015 I'm a bit confused Paul. How long has Leeds been in Wensleydale ? Excellent work as always. Ah, but it's on the way, sort of. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium wagonbasher Posted November 3, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 3, 2015 I'm a bit confused Paul. How long has Leeds been in Wensleydale ? Excellent work as always. You can have (eat) Wensleydale in Leeds.. Andy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gr.king Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 Free cheese from the sampling room in Hawes no doubt.... At least a brief appearance at the Grammar school was managed, if my eyes did not deceive me. I'm very impressed with the long boiler loco thus far. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Worsdell forever Posted November 3, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted November 3, 2015 Free cheese from the sampling room in Hawes no doubt.... At least a brief appearance at the Grammar school was managed, if my eyes did not deceive me. I'm very impressed with the long boiler loco thus far. Yes and yes. Had a taste of each (except the sheep's cheese and the chilli one) then round again for more! Oh, then into the cafe for Wensleydale and Ginger cheesecake... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Barry O Posted November 3, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 3, 2015 did you see Grommit on the way? The 1001 is looking very nice. keep up the good work Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Worsdell forever Posted November 3, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted November 3, 2015 did you see Grommit on the way? Yes. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Worsdell forever Posted November 3, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted November 3, 2015 Normally when I'm building a loco the tender gets left till last but with this one I thought I'd make a start now for a couple of reasons, firstly, it's completely different in construction to anything I've built before, there's no real footplate to use as a datum to build from. I'm starting with the tank top and working down. Secondly it's covered with rivets and I wanted to use my new rivet tool in anger! 14 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Worsdell forever Posted November 11, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted November 11, 2015 Managed to get the coal space flares on the top of the tank tonight, a bit of a fiddle but they seem to have gone ok, they still need a bit more tidying up. Also fitted the front and rear footplates. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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