Clay Country Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 But surely if Imerys needed the trains to run, DBS as contractor would be obliged provide serviceable rolling stock and run the trains the customer wants? I find it hard to believe that a shortage of serviceable wagons should be allowed to dictate the frequency of trains, which would make rail look like a weak link in the supply chain and no doubt lead to questions being asked at Imerys. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nat37670 Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 But surely if Imerys needed the trains to run, DBS as contractor would be obliged provide serviceable rolling stock and run the trains the customer wants? I find it hard to believe that a shortage of serviceable wagons should be allowed to dictate the frequency of trains, which would make rail look like a weak link in the supply chain and no doubt lead to questions being asked at Imerys. If DBS havn't got the resources to run the train, then it doesn't run! The wagon fleet has been withdrawn for attention to some braking issue. Your point is correct and I think this is why people are worried, DBS are not running what they should be, Maen Karne the road haulage company are picking up the backlog. I expect questions are being asked at Imerys and I'm sure DBS have lost other flows for similar reasons. I am willing to stand corrected on this, but am fairly sure this is whats going on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clay Country Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 Thanks Nat, interesting and rather concerning news. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nat37670 Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 Having had a look at the CDA pool on the TOPs computer just now I'm sure what I'm saying is correct. 6G08 is to run this afternoon with 38 loaded from Goonbarrow. Then there are around 10 good examples at Fowey. The rest are all at BZ 'for repair'. The service cannot run as booked with so few wagons. Will post full list later if anyone is interested.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
floss_4 Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 Having had a look at the CDA pool on the TOPs computer just now I'm sure what I'm saying is correct. 6G08 is to run this afternoon with 38 loaded from Goonbarrow. Then there are around 10 good examples at Fowey. The rest are all at BZ 'for repair'. The service cannot run as booked with so few wagons. Will post full list later if anyone is interested.... Is there scope for running 2 rakes of 24 using all 48 good wagons and fitting extra services in nights/weekends until the fleet is fixed? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterbournecm Posted November 8, 2013 Author Share Posted November 8, 2013 An unusual sight these days. 66081 works light engine to Goonbarrow to collect the 6G08 load 8th Nov. The loco returned to BZ whilst the private shunters formed up the train. Hopefully back to two rakes from next week. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nat37670 Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 Below is the status on TOPS of the CDA fleet at 13:50 08/11/13. The active pool has 38 examples allocated to 6G08, vast majority of the remaining are at BZ 'For-Rep', guessing the ones at BZ not showing 'For-Rep' have been dealt with???? Further below is the stored fleet, most of which havn't moved since the current contract came in at the beginning of the year. Havn't bothered to work out which numbers are missing, but guessing these are examples that have been cut up...... POOL 2433 - EWSNETWRK IMERYS-CDA-HOPPERS 375000 Goonbarrow 6G08 375001 Goonbarrow 6G08 375002 St.Blazey 375003 St.Blazey For-Rep arr 23/10 375005 Fowey Docks 375006 Goonbarrow 6G08 375007 Goonbarrow 6G08 375008 St.Blazey 375009 Goonbarrow 6G08 375010 St.Blazey 375011 Goonbarrow 6G08 375012 Fowey Docks 375015 St.Blazey For-Rep arr 30/10 375016 St.Blazey For-Rep arr 23/10 375017 St.Blazey For-Rep arr 30/10 375018 Goonbarrow 6G08 375019 Goonbarrow 6G08 375020 Fowey Docks 375022 St.Blazey For-Rep arr 30/10 375023 Goonbarrow 6G08 375025 St.Blazey For Rep arr 23/10 375030 St.Blazey For-Rep arr 30/10 375032 Goonbarrow 6G08 375033 St.Blazey For-Rep arr 30/10 375035 St.Blazey For-Rep arr 30/10 375037 St.Blazey For-Rep arr 30/10 375038 Goonbarrow 6G08 375040 St.Blazey For-Rep arr 30/10 375041 Goonbarrow 6G08 375043 St.Blazey For-Rep arr 30/10 375044 St.Blazey For-Rep arr 23/10 375045 St.Blazey For-Rep arr 30/10 375046 Goonbarrow 6G08 375049 Goonbarrow 6G08 375050 St.Blazey 375051 Goonbarrow 6G08 375052 Fowey Docks 375054 Goonbarrow 6G08 375055 St.Blazey 375057 St.Blazey For-Rep arr 23/10 375058 Fowey Docks 375059 Goonbarrow 6G08 375060 St.Blazey 375061 St.Blazey For-Rep arr 30/10 375063 St.Blazey For-Rep arr 30/10 375064 Goonbarrow 6G08 375066 St.Blazey For-Rep arr 30/10 375067 St.Blazey For-Rep arr 23/10 375069 Goonbarrow 6G08 375071 Goonbarrow 6G08 375072 St.Blazey For-Rep arr 30/10 375074 Goonbarrow 6G08 375075 Goonbarrow 6G08 375076 Goonbarrow 6G08 375077 St.Blazey For-Rep arr 30/10 375078 St.Blazey For-Rep arr 30/10 375082 St.Blazey 375083 St.Blazey 375085 Fowey Docks For-Rep arr 07/11 375087 Fowey Docks For-Rep arr 06/11 375090 Goonbarrow 6G08 375091 Goonbarrow 6G08 375093 St.Blazey For-Rep arr 23/10 375094 Goonbarrow 6G08 375095 Goonbarrow 6G08 375097 Goonbarrow 6G08 375099 Goonbarrow 6G08 375102 Goonbarrow 6G08 375103 Fowey Docks 375104 Goonbarrow 6G08 375105 Goonbarrow 6G08 375106 Fowey Docks 375107 Fowey Docks 375108 Goonbarrow 6G08 375112 Goonbarrow 6G08 375113 Fowey Docks 375114 Fowey Docks For-Rep arr 07/11 375116 Goonbarrow 6G08 375117 Goonbarrow 6G08 375118 Fowey Docks 375120 Goonbarrow 6G08 375121 Goonbarrow 6G08 POOL 2914 - STORED-CDA-HOPPERS 353224 St.Blazey 375004 St.Blazey 375013 St.Blazey 375021 St.Blazey 375024 St.Blazey 375026 St.Blazey 375027 St.Blazey 375028 St.Blazey 375029 St.Blazey 375031 St.Blazey 375034 St.Blazey 375036 St.Blazey 375042 St.Blazey 375047 St.Blazey 375053 St.Blazey 375056 St.Blazey 375062 St.Blazey 375065 St.Blazey 375070 St.Blazey 375073 St.Blazey 375079 St.Blazey 375080 St.Blazey 375081 St.Blazey 375084 Goonbarrow 375086 St.Blazey 375088 St.Blazey 375089 St.Blazey 375092 St.Blazey 375096 St.Blazey 375098 St.Blazey 375100 St.Blazey 375101 St.Blazey 375109 St.Blazey 375111 St.Blazey 375115 St.Blazey 375119 St.Blazey 375122 St.Blazey 372123 St.Blazey TOTAL 38 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Captain Kernow Posted November 9, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 9, 2013 Below is the status on TOPS of the CDA fleet at 13:50 08/11/13. The active pool has 38 examples allocated to 6G08, vast majority of the remaining are at BZ 'For-Rep', guessing the ones at BZ not showing 'For-Rep' have been dealt with???? Nat - most of those that are 'stopped for repairs' are not for particularly 'heavy duty' work and, as Craig has said, we will be back to two rakes in normal operation very soon, this being the Imerys/DBS plan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nat37670 Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 I'm sure they will be back soon, but they've been out for well over a week already so it can't be that simple and definitely not good for their business. In fact the arrival dates at BZ on TOPs of 30/10 doesn't seem right as sure they were laid up well before this, has this not been going on over two weeks now?? There is a wagon in the shed right now 'up in the air' off it's wheelsets so guessing they are doing every wagon one at a time? Time consuming, especially without a depot 08 to move this around Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nat37670 Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 Having looked into this more (individual wagon enquiries) if two rakes are not in service Monday this starts the FOURTH week of disruption. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterbournecm Posted November 18, 2013 Author Share Posted November 18, 2013 Mid November and we have full rakes (at last). Here are recent pictures on some rare sunny afternoons. The Causeway shot was in cloud, my lucky break didnt come sadly! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clay Country Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 Nice pics Craig, good to see the rolling stock situation is returning to normal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterbournecm Posted December 16, 2013 Author Share Posted December 16, 2013 For anyone planning a trip down over the Festive season to see some CDAs in action - the last run will be a morning trip only on 23rd Dec 2013 and then nowt until Jan 2nd with 2 x Rocks trips. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Gwiwer Posted December 17, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 17, 2013 Thanks. Not due home until late August next year but may I please book a sunlit Golant shot with the CDAs for that time - tide immaterial? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterbournecm Posted January 31, 2014 Author Share Posted January 31, 2014 A work related visit to Treviscoe resulted in a lot of pictures being taken. As luck would have it, 66155 was busy loading NACCOs in the lower loading area. The light was poor, and behind the train but here they are anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornish trains jez Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 Some nice photos there Craig and enough detail to inspire someone to build a model! Just out of interest, have the PBA Tiger wagons been withdrawn now? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
floss_4 Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 A work related visit to Treviscoe resulted in a lot of pictures being taken. As luck would have it, 66155 was busy loading NACCOs in the lower loading area. The light was poor, and behind the train but here they are anyway. treviscoe (1).jpeg treviscoe (4).jpeg treviscoe (7).jpeg treviscoe (10).jpeg treviscoe (15).jpeg treviscoe (16).jpeg treviscoe (18).jpeg treviscoe (26).jpeg treviscoe (28).jpeg Presumably this is the area being considered for the block and aggregates facility? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
floss_4 Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 Just out of interest, have the PBA Tiger wagons been withdrawn now? They left Cornwall around 5 years ago I think. I don't know if it was for scrap,storage or refurbishment. All the 'mainline' traffic since then has been the NACCO's shown in the pictures above. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterbournecm Posted February 1, 2014 Author Share Posted February 1, 2014 Yes I've been back since 2007 and only seen these Polybulks used. Cant say too much about the purpose of the visit, but shared some pictures here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rods_of_Revolution Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 They left Cornwall around 5 years ago I think. I don't know if it was for scrap,storage or refurbishment. All the 'mainline' traffic since then has been the NACCO's shown in the pictures above. A few years ago I saw some stored at Gloucester Yard, looking at the state of them I'd say they'd need at least minor refurb before before being used again. Cheers, Jack Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Captain Kernow Posted February 2, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 2, 2014 A few years ago I saw some stored at Gloucester Yard, looking at the state of them I'd say they'd need at least minor refurb before before being used again. Cheers, Jack IIRC, those particular wagons in Gloucester New Yard were stored there by the erstwhile Advenza freight co, who went bust. It took us a long time to get someone to take responsiblity for moving those wagons out of our yard...! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
floss_4 Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 IIRC, those particular wagons in Gloucester New Yard were stored there by the erstwhile Advenza freight co, who went bust. It took us a long time to get someone to take responsiblity for moving those wagons out of our yard... I may be wrong but it might have been Advenza (or Cotswold Rail) that moved them from storage at Burngullow. I think it was around 2008 when the economic downturn hit the clay industry and all mainline traffic was concentrated into the newer NACCO's. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Captain Kernow Posted February 3, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 3, 2014 I may be wrong but it might have been Advenza (or Cotswold Rail) that moved them from storage at Burngullow. I think it was around 2008 when the economic downturn hit the clay industry and all mainline traffic was concentrated into the newer NACCO's. Er, yes, that's exactly what happened. Once Advenza went bust, it took some time to get them moved.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterbournecm Posted February 5, 2014 Author Share Posted February 5, 2014 Another visit - different train this time 66006 with the CDAs: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ramblin Rich Posted February 5, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 5, 2014 Well, it's good to see there's still something moving beyond the gaping chasm at Dawlish.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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