Rugd1022 Posted May 16, 2012 Share Posted May 16, 2012 Great video that..! lLoking at it I was briefly transported back to the cold and windy platform of Rugby Midland in the 'Winter Of Discontent', when just about every other high speed freight and parcels train had an 85 on the front, alongside 81s, 82s and the odd 83.... well and done Bachmann, you've made time travel almost become reality! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugd1022 Posted May 16, 2012 Share Posted May 16, 2012 What struck me as a little odd was theres no OHE warning flashes on the model, then I looked at pictures of the real things in that era, and they don't have any too. Why was that? I thought everything had them after about 1961. Well D605, if you were working on these locos day in day out you should already be well aware of the what's coursing through those wires above your head and shouldn't need reminding! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewishambill Posted May 16, 2012 Share Posted May 16, 2012 D605Eagle, on 16 May 2012 - 10:53 , said: What struck me as a little odd was theres no OHE warning flashes on the model, then I looked at pictures of the real things in that era, and they don't have any too. Why was that? I thought everything had them after about 1961. Well D605, if you were working on these locos day in day out you should already be well aware of the what's coursing through those wires above your head and shouldn't need reminding! What is even more surprising is that the AC electrics did not recieve the yellow panels until 1965, despite being much quieter & quicker on the approach than the English Electric type 4s & Stanier machinery that preceded them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
60026to Posted May 16, 2012 Share Posted May 16, 2012 I'm very glad that everyone enjoyed the video, it was a bit of a rush job but fun to make. At the moment 85026 is quietly resting in its box in the spare room. The wife thinks it should enter revenue earning service in August but I have other ideas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Max Stafford Posted May 16, 2012 Share Posted May 16, 2012 "it was a bit of a rush job but fun to make." Heh, I see what you did there...! Good little film though. Strange as it seems, the AC locos don't seem to have recieved OHL flashes until rather late. This was perhaps due to there being less need to go above floor level on an electric than with other forms of traction. As Lewishambill states, when you were aware of what actually powered one of these you had 25,000 good reasons not to climb above floor level! Dave. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D605Eagle Posted May 16, 2012 Share Posted May 16, 2012 (edited) Well D605, if you were working on these locos day in day out you should already be well aware of the what's coursing through those wires above your head and shouldn't need reminding! Yes but the signs were put on locos to warn of the dangers. Just because they are there all the time with an electric loco is no reason to leave them off. I think MaxStafford answered the question best, theres no need to get aloft, plus theres no steps or anyway of getting up there. Edited May 16, 2012 by D605Eagle 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gridwatcher Posted May 16, 2012 Share Posted May 16, 2012 Tues 15/05/2012 0Z01 85026 on KD 15:30 VG! Assuming you got it from Mike at C&M Dave I must have just missed you....... shame. It is lovely and mine is just as nice!! Si Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gridwatcher Posted May 16, 2012 Share Posted May 16, 2012 Here we go its a bit rough'n'ready (the vid that is) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-fTROo2fjE It is good and it works too! What a treat. Now I guess there is a Legomanbiffo sound chip waiting in the wings too.......? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBE Posted May 16, 2012 Share Posted May 16, 2012 Mine best be winging its way to me as we speak!! Hattons kind email told me it had been packed and posted this morning!! Hoping a kind postman delivers tomorrow!! The loco looks superb and yes I always found it strange that electric locos didnt receive overhead flashes in the main. Right upto privatisation in the mid 90's there were only a handful of AC loco with them. In fact theres only 87 101 in my fleet that will have them. Cav 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Accurascale Fran Posted May 16, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 16, 2012 Picked up mine today,and they really are lovely. I might be tempted to pick up an electric blue one should funds allow. I hope this is the first of many AC locos from Bachmann. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Endacott Posted May 16, 2012 Share Posted May 16, 2012 Did the overhead warning flashes have something to do with steam heating boilers? Locos with boilers required someone to climb onto the roof the fill the boiler water tank. That's why a lot of diesels had steps built into the sides. Electric locos didn't have steam heating boilers so there was no need to climb onto the roof. Perhaps this explains the lack of warning signs in the early years. Geoff Endacott 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRAILRAGE Posted May 16, 2012 Share Posted May 16, 2012 (edited) Also got me confirmation email today for me this is the the most eagerly awaited model Ive been over a model since DELTIC Ive always wanted one of these beauties since I read Graham Clark's article in Practical Model Railways March 86 Edited May 16, 2012 by TRAILRAGE 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lokomotivfuhrer Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 Did anyone ever reply to say they were the first of the AL series to be built at Doncaster? Yeah I was referring to the refurbs. in relation to 85 026. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted May 17, 2012 Author Share Posted May 17, 2012 pic of 85021 with headcode numbers. http://www.wiganworld.co.uk/album/photo.php?opt=3&id=715&gallery=Railways&offset=40 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Trevellan Posted May 17, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 17, 2012 After delving into my archives, I've found a little something for Mr Stafford: 85 030 bringing a special into Carlisle on Wednesday 12th August 1981. Sir Nigel Gresley, then running as 4498, was waiting to take the train back over the S & C route. I haven't been back to Carlisle since, so I think a return visit is slightly overdue... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pennine MC Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 Well, I have to say this loco has given me the best laugh of the week. Not the model itself, it looks superb, but I've been advised that some folk are getting hot and bothered about this Ebay member: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Bachmann-31-678-Class-85-Electric-85026-BR-Blue-/190679421585?pt=UK_Trains_Railway_Models&hash=item2c65611291 Apparently there's disquiet at him trading at a profit as soon as the model's out; well, look just a few inches to the right of course, and you can clearly see it's a shop. Erm, that's what they do, isnt it 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted May 17, 2012 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 17, 2012 Apparently there's disquiet at him trading at a profit as soon as the model's out; well, look just a few inches to the right of course, and you can clearly see it's a shop. Erm, that's what they do, isnt it Exactly! The RRP is £112.45, ebay price £105.99 - what's the problem? Cheers, Mick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickL2008 Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 I may be going mad, but I thought this model was supposed to be £79 when it came out? NL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
60026to Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 Dunno about £79, I paid £90 for mine and worth every penny. Forgot to add earlier that the 85 comes with a detailing pack (hoses, couplings etc) and also an etched pair of BR arrows. Just need the Mk 1s now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaneofFife Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 Come, come young Ian, the vicarious dig hasnt gone unnoticed. For the benefit of those not in the know, I was the person slating the seller and yes, I got it wrong (bull in a china shop moment - we all do it). To get a full screen I have to tab across so in my haste I made the comment and missed that it was a shop thinking it was another carpet bagger-so then, is it really such a big deal and worth mentioning here or a lame (and I would add, failed) attempt to cause me embarassment perhaps? I dont think anybody here is overly interested but I dare say Ian has now cracked his face if something this trivial caused him such a good belly laugh. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bartb Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 Just need the Mk 1s now... I have a AL5 on order but I can't find any Maroon Midland region MK 1 coaches to go with it So looks like it will be another renumbering job. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaneofFife Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 My models arrived today and I am extremely pleased with them. I may be going mad, but I thought this model was supposed to be £79 when it came out? NL I think the initial RRP was set at around £93 and then it went to £112 around March when we had the general price increases. You can still obtain them for £76 if you shop around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
298 Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 £79 sounds like the Hattons pre-order price. You pays your money, and takes your choice... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted May 17, 2012 Author Share Posted May 17, 2012 (edited) still got my AL5 on pre order from Hattons, £78 which includes £2 postage, I know i live about 6 miles from Hattons but its the other side of town and for £2 its cheaper and easier to have it posted. just best put some money away now if they are close. Edited May 17, 2012 by michael delamar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted May 17, 2012 Author Share Posted May 17, 2012 just checked hattons AL5 is £79 but says price up to £86 from 20th may so now is the time. http://www.ehattons.com/32706/Bachmann_UK_31_676_Class_85_AL5_Bo_Bo_Electric_E3058_in_BR_Electric_Blue_with_twin_pantograph_Price/StockDetail.aspx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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