RMweb Gold Re6/6 Posted May 14, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 14, 2014 I buy three Peco lifts to make two, if that makes sense. I saw one in half and then graft it on to the other whole one using small sized aluminium angle. An ingenious idea! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisben Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 Shame about the damage and poor assembly on your example, but every confidence in Hattons doing the right thing in their usual style. Thanks for the invaluable photo essay. The strange 'jewellery chain' links on the drawhook: a spontaneous improv. in China when they hadn't got the right three links components on the build line? One of those situations where it is definitely better to leave it off, rather than 'try'. In fairness, with pick up spread over four compensated axles, a pair in each bogie, over that distance (and it must commoned to both motors since there is a single decoder socket): that is going to be more than adequate as a design if all the wipers are in contact. And with the pick up strips externally mounted any modifier can quickly solder on four more wipers to take care of the centre drivers if they wish. Hi I have bought a Garratt from Hattons , was deliverd 2 days ago.I live in South Africa .I was very impressed with the Loco, however the electrical pick up,s don't all touch the wheels.In the post you mention"the pick up strips externally mounted any modifier can quickly solder on four more wipers to take care of the centre drivers if they wish " .I looked at the possibility but the pickup strips if heated up by the soldering iron will this not melt the plastic ,which they are mounted in. I thinking of soldering on much firmer pick up wires , the present one,s don't have enough spring.Any suggestions please. Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Peter Beckett Posted May 14, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 14, 2014 I have started to record my Garratt fitted with a sound file from Neil of Olivias. The loco is fitted with a Loksound V4 decoder and I have replaced the 4 ohm speaker with an 8 ohm sugar cube speaker. Its my first attempt at youtubing so please excuse the total lack of film professionalism http://youtu.be/vKC2c3lqzIY Anyway, please enjoy. Peter 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
34theletterbetweenB&D Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 ...In the post you mention "the pick up strips externally mounted, any modifier can quickly solder on four more wipers to take care of the centre drivers if they wish " .I looked at the possibility but the pickup strips if heated up by the soldering iron will this not melt the plastic ,which they are mounted in... That's an untested idea, since I don't own a Garratt, and am not going to; as they didn't operate in my 1957 - 62 window. The execution of additional pick ups: if push came to shove and there was no way of preventing meltdown in situ with heatsinking or similar, then it would have to be disassembly to enable the job if it proved necessary. Or even a complete revision of the pick up arrangements, which I have done on several RTR models over the years when the maker's pick up concept has proven duff. But I am not in a position to advise on the specifics here as a non-owner. I would hope that with pick up provided on four driven wheels each side, and paired in bogies for flexibility, that simply adjusting the wipers for full contact throughout the side to side movement of the wheelsets would be enough. That's equivalent pick up to a centre motor BoBo type, and these things are rock solid for current collection with the wipers properly adjusted. I still always check that all wipers make full contact on new models, force of habit over many years buying RTR where typically half the wipers were ineffective. Although matters have improved of late, there is still often some improvement possible. Any owners of the tweaking and modifying persuasion had a go in this department? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisben Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 That's an untested idea, since I don't own a Garratt, and am not going to; as they didn't operate in my 1957 - 62 window. The execution of additional pick ups: if push came to shove and there was no way of preventing meltdown in situ with heatsinking or similar, then it would have to be disassembly to enable the job if it proved necessary. Or even a complete revision of the pick up arrangements, which I have done on several RTR models over the years when the maker's pick up concept has proven duff. But I am not in a position to advise on the specifics here as a non-owner. I would hope that with pick up provided on four driven wheels each side, and paired in bogies for flexibility, that simply adjusting the wipers for full contact throughout the side to side movement of the wheelsets would be enough. That's equivalent pick up to a centre motor BoBo type, and these things are rock solid for current collection with the wipers properly adjusted. I still always check that all wipers make full contact on new models, force of habit over many years buying RTR where typically half the wipers were ineffective. Although matters have improved of late, there is still often some improvement possible. Any owners of the tweaking and modifying persuasion had a go in this department? Thanks for the reply.I will surely give it a checkout and decide. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmcg Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 Yes...I'm waiting for the later BR weathered versions,too.As I posted a couple of weeks ago the thing that bothers me about investing in one is the tricky business of railing and re railing this lengthy beast.A solution IS available from DC Kits & Hattons but that adds considerably to the cost.Looks to be one of those "essential accessories".....similar to buying a new car.Admittedly,in these times,the Garratt is outstanding value for money. I have found that lifting gently/replacing into the cradle the loco was delivered in works well for me. I then place it on a flat surface (large flat hardcover book) alongside. Then move the book to a position alongside a piece of track, and do the same gentle lift/replace. Might be slow and ugly but that's what Garratts are all about? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Tony_S Posted May 15, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 15, 2014 I have found that lifting gently/replacing into the cradle the loco was delivered in works well for me. I then place it on a flat surface (large flat hardcover book) alongside. Then move the book to a position alongside a piece of track, and do the same gentle lift/replace. Might be slow and ugly but that's what Garratts are all about? Fortunately I was at Alexandra Palace this year and observed Andy Y's demonstration of Garratt removal from the track. I don't think it was videoed for posterity though! Tony Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mod4 Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 Dear each and all, please lets keep On Topic, I have removed some more recent potentially argumentative posts as they add nothing to the thread. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free At Last Posted May 18, 2014 Share Posted May 18, 2014 Nice to see that two Garratt versions are showing stocks of less than 10. I hope it proves to have been a successful venture for Hattons. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PenrithBeacon Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 Gee wiz £199.00! I'm sure it's superb, but that's a lot of dosh and it wouldn't look good unless you had a mainline. Regards Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ian Hargrave Posted May 19, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 19, 2014 Gee wiz £199.00! I'm sure it's superb, but that's a lot of dosh and it wouldn't look good unless you had a mainline.Regards Or a long siding......For this,£199 is superb value. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmcg Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 I agree it's good value, and even on a diorama it is a very impressive model when in motion. My two examples have excellent low speed on DC with my Spectrum Magnum controllers. I have to imagine the 87 loaded coal wagons though... Another nice thing is that the plastic shroud/inlay is accurately made and protects the model well when in storage. Can't wait for the heavily-weathered versions! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Hawkins Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 Just checked Hattons website and on the Beyer Garratt page it shows 26602 LMS 4978 lightly weathered as being sold out, so this has scupperd my plan of obtaining all twelve models, i have however ordered 26606 LMS 47972 an hour ago and was informed after my purchase that their is now only one left. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmcg Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 I'm actually rather pleased that the models are not clogging the shelves, and I expect the heavily-weathered versions will sell very well. That said, its very hard to please every buyer with weathering. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monjac Posted May 23, 2014 Share Posted May 23, 2014 I'm actually rather pleased that the models are not clogging the shelves, and I expect the heavily-weathered versions will sell very well. That said, its very hard to please every buyer with weathering. I agree.it is good news that Hatton's Garrett venture looks to be a success.. I am eagerly awaiting the heavily weathered 47996. and have bought the MPD so I don,t drop it ! Hattons have it listed as June delivery. Does anyone know anything better.? Any more pics from Nouvelle Zelande ?. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmcg Posted May 23, 2014 Share Posted May 23, 2014 Still listed by Hattons as June, another heavily weathered version for July, fingers crossed. I will certainly be photographing my pre-ordered examples of each in due course. Now that the LMS lightly-weathered version has sold out, perhaps I will be allowed to show these 2 pics again... which really show off the nature of the beast... Cheers, Rob 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dandg Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 (edited) I've just checked Hattons web site and only 6 remain of 266205 No. 47967 with BRITISH RAILWAYS on the tanks. Edited June 5, 2014 by dandg 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmcg Posted June 6, 2014 Share Posted June 6, 2014 Indeed the production runs may have well-judged, I do hope the heavily-weathered versions will arrive soon. Are these being manufactured in China? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Hawkins Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 266205 No 47967 with BRITISH RAILWAYS on tanks now sold out at Hattons Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monjac Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 266205 No 47967 with BRITISH RAILWAYS on tanks now sold out at Hattons Those last six people left it until the last moment ! I am led to believe that 47967 might be dispatched this next week.. I am in hospital at the moment having had a new knee fitted which is excellent. So this morning I had the all important lesson with the physio on how to get up and down stairs.No problem at all.So when I get home next week I will be able to get up the stairs into my roof space to test the loco. I can now relax. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Hawkins Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 (edited) Hi Monjac, 47967 ? this is not shown on the Hattons website, I'm waiting for 266208 No 47996 heavily weathered, hoping, fingers crossed that this is released in the next week or so. Edited June 7, 2014 by Brian Hawkins Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
250BOB Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 Hi Monjac, 47967 ? this is not shown on the Hattons website, I'm waiting for 266208 No 47996 heavily weathered, hoping, fingers crossed that this is released in the next week or so. Me too Brian..........just hoping the weathering is a good job. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ian Hargrave Posted June 7, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 7, 2014 So often,a factory weathering job is less than special.If Heljan get this one right,it will fly off the shelves.We can only wait and see. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshleyH Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 I grabbed the very last 266205 BRITISH RAILWAYS version early this morning! Thanks to the earlier poster alerting me to the fact there were only 6 left, by the time I woke up this morning it was down to 2, by the time I remembered my Hattons account login just the 1 in stock....phew that was close. This was the version that appealed to me the most, good job for Hattons that we are all different! Many thanks to Rob for the excellent and inspiring photoshop pictures. Will update when it arrives, which should be Tuesday as I took the Yodel 24 option. Fingers crossed my model will be OK as it was the last one. What a turnover Hattons must have, that's 6 models at £199 in a little over 24 hours and that is just one of their many thousands of products. Best Regards Ashley 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
250BOB Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 So often,a factory weathering job is less than special.If Heljan get this one right,it will fly off the shelves.We can only wait and see. I'm nervous Ian...!!!!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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