St. Simon Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 Hi, Bachmann is now showing pre-production shots of the Class 419 MLV (Motor Luggage Van) on their website : http://www.Bachmann.co.uk/ They are showing shots of the whole body and the underside Looks to be up to the same standard as the 4-CEP and 2-EPB Simon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
10800 Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 Thanks Simon, looks very nice - could be the death knell of my MJT sides and ends until I have the time to build it for the sake of building it! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xerces Fobe2 Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 Don't forget the Replica model which is a fairly straight forward assembly and paint job. Xerces Fobe Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nile_Griffith Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 Would somebody pleeeeeaaaaasssseeee give me a prototypical reason as to why one of those MLV's would have been seen up near the midlands so i can have an excuse to go out and order one or two (or three or four)!!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southernman46 Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 Being towed to Derby reasearch centre for evaluation purposes ?? En route to LIverpool on a temporary loan to substitute for one of their ex-class 501 battery "locos" Signalling off the juice at Basingstoke and just keep going ?????????????? Replaced a failed Class 47 on a Bournemouth - Leeds train ? Hey = I model Winchester in the last 1970's and still have the Didcot Newbury & Soton and Alton lines still open with visits from the occasional Class 17 / Kestrel / Hymeks (not scrapped by '76) / Warships (not scrapped by '72) - the Newbury locals are worked by surplus Cravens and Class 108's It's YOUR rail - you don't need an excuse to run one.......................................... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nile_Griffith Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 Ha Ha Ha!! Cheers Southernman!! Have to be honest I'm hoping that Bachmann will eventually do them in Post Office red livery. I have a soft spot for TPO's and that kind of thing so, as you say. It's my layout.... What the hell!! Cheers Nile Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Evil Bus Driver Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 They actually did look quite good in red. http://www.semgonline.com/gallery/pics/ds_9001.jpg Apologies for the duplicate thread earlier. And I looked as well... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Gwiwer Posted September 14, 2011 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 14, 2011 Good looking test shots. I look forward to a couple of these arriving. For those of use not modelling the SR electrified system remember they could not only work on unpowered lines from their traction batteries (and did so daily at Dover on the quayside) but could be hauled effectively as loose-coupled stock with shoes paddled up and even controlled by by a 33/1, 73 or 74 (though I don't think the latter ever occurred) in front or behind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium John M Upton Posted September 14, 2011 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 14, 2011 I expect a fair few limited editions of some of the more obscure liveries like the Royal Mail red will be quickly commissioned. NSE one as the Bachmann Collectors Club model next year by any chance?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRman Posted September 15, 2011 Share Posted September 15, 2011 Good looking test shots. I look forward to a couple of these arriving. For those of use not modelling the SR electrified system remember they could not only work on unpowered lines from their traction batteries (and did so daily at Dover on the quayside) but could be hauled effectively as loose-coupled stock with shoes paddled up and even controlled by by a 33/1, 73 or 74 (though I don't think the latter ever occurred) in front or behind. That'll give you an even better excuse to run the 4CEP. You can hook up two MLVs and take out the motor from the CEP. I'm not sure how far the MLVs with a load would get under battery power but they may have needed a couple of recharges on the way to Cornwall!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Gwiwer Posted September 15, 2011 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 15, 2011 Not sure they'd make it up Honiton Bank Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Gwiwer Posted September 15, 2011 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 15, 2011 An MLV in Jaffa will be rather nice ...... hint hint!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ressaldar Posted September 15, 2011 Share Posted September 15, 2011 They actually did look quite good in red. http://www.semgonlin...ics/ds_9001.jpg Apologies for the duplicate thread earlier. And I looked as well... one red one one jaffa cake both from Peter Clark O Gauge kits. cheers Mike Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southernman46 Posted September 15, 2011 Share Posted September 15, 2011 Don't forget the TLV's which were used between the MLV and the main train - converted standard BG's if memory serves - didn't last too long Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xerces Fobe2 Posted September 15, 2011 Share Posted September 15, 2011 Don't forget the TLV's which were used between the MLV and the main train - converted standard BG's if memory serves - didn't last too long I remember seeing a few trains passing through Ashford (Kent) in the early 1970's, 3 xCEP/BEP+MLV & TLV a 14 car EMU which was a the longest EMU working at that time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted September 15, 2011 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 15, 2011 Good looking test shots. I look forward to a couple of these arriving. For those of use not modelling the SR electrified system remember they could not only work on unpowered lines from their traction batteries (and did so daily at Dover on the quayside) but could be hauled effectively as loose-coupled stock with shoes paddled up and even controlled by by a 33/1, 73 or 74 (though I don't think the latter ever occurred) in front or behind. There was an SX evening trip by MLV from Victoria to East Croydon, which then entered the (non-electrified) GPO dock, shunted some vans about, and cluttered off back to London with them. That was in the early '70s, and I believe this trip was later extended to take in similar work at Redhill. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southernman46 Posted September 15, 2011 Share Posted September 15, 2011 There's always the SR water tank trains of the 1990's to be modelled too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Gwiwer Posted September 15, 2011 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 15, 2011 I remember the MLV workings to Redhill and the mail handling system there with an overhead conveyor with mailbags suspended from clips. For really out-of-the-ordinary workings we need to look at railtours. The Southern Electric Group organised at least two using MLV traction including battery traction off the "juice"; one also featured a GLV at the other end. Using two or three luggage vans to power a train-load of passengers would be considered as outrageous these days as it was then! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Evil Bus Driver Posted September 15, 2011 Share Posted September 15, 2011 one red one one jaffa cake both from Peter Clark O Gauge kits. cheers Nice! You've done 9004 too. I went in the cab of that one as it was at the Brighton 150 open day in Lovers Walk Depot back in 1991. Mike Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRman Posted September 15, 2011 Share Posted September 15, 2011 I remember seeing a few trains passing through Ashford (Kent) in the early 1970's, 3 xCEP/BEP+MLV & TLV a 14 car EMU which was a the longest EMU working at that time. Showing my age here: I remember the early '60s before the TLVs existed and there were 14 coach trains made up of 3 x CEP/BEP + 2 x MLV, all in green, going through Petts Wood (past my grandparents' house). Physical lengthwise these would have been a fraction longer than the later version with MLV + TLV; also rather more powerful too! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Gwiwer Posted September 15, 2011 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 15, 2011 TLV's (68201-68206 IIRC) were basically standard BGs wired for mu operation. Conversion work was otherwise minimal. They had to be marshalled between powered units - usually between an MLV and a Cep at the "wet" or "country" end of the train as that was nearest the ship at Dover. They also worked down to Folkestone Harbour. Would they have been at the London end of those trains so as to be at the "wet" end after the reversal in Folkestone? The TLVs were perhaps over-provision of luggage space and were little-used leading to their early retirement. They were also a right Royal pain to manage when shunting stock as they were unpowered and required at least an MLV to be attached. An MLV+TLV combination could not operate anywhere a reversal was necessary other than authorised propelling shunt moves. A second unit or loco with a cab had to be provided on the other end of the TLV. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogmatix Posted September 15, 2011 Share Posted September 15, 2011 I saw MLV's regularly on boat trains, sometimes two on one train making a 14 coach train, but occasionally the other extreme - an MLV shooting through Beckenham Junction all on its lonesome self. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Gwiwer Posted September 15, 2011 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 15, 2011 an MLV shooting through Beckenham Junction all on its lonesome self. And boy could they move on their own. 0-90 in what seemed like seconds. More than a few have been driven above their official speed limit as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gulliver Posted September 16, 2011 Share Posted September 16, 2011 There's always the SR water tank trains of the 1990's to be modelled too Oh yes - can you remember what livery these were in? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southernman46 Posted September 16, 2011 Share Posted September 16, 2011 Oh yes - can you remember what livery these were in? Both Jaffa Cake & NSE if memory serves Glad to see 8 of the 10 made it to preservation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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