Michael Delamar Posted October 15, 2012 Author Share Posted October 15, 2012 western at Chester D1000_Chester_12-6-62 by robertcwp, on Flickr 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted November 15, 2012 Author Share Posted November 15, 2012 nice shot of a warship at Crewe station.. http://www.flickr.com/photos/64353697@N07/6985351602/in/pool-60sdiesels/ 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted November 15, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 15, 2012 Westerns were common at Chester Mike, they worked in on the "Paddy" We need a photo of the Hymek at Speke ... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted November 15, 2012 Author Share Posted November 15, 2012 Westerns were common at Chester Mike, they worked in on the "Paddy" aye but photos of them there dont seem very common Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Sidelines Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 Well here is a shot of a Western at Chester (that I took earlier). August Bank Holiday 1962, around 06 August. The picture is D1007 which I believe records state was out shopped 01 August 1962. looks about right. I have also penciled in that I spotted D1001 Western Explorer!! I never was any good at maths but I do remember it was green with a red nameplate. No Castles around but a grimy Hall. 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted November 15, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 15, 2012 aye but photos of them there dont seem very common Sid Wainwright had quite a few iirc, but sadly he passed away a while ago now. I've got Western Yeoman (the original) passing Chester No.3A signal box. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted November 17, 2012 Author Share Posted November 17, 2012 (edited) D1000 'Western Enterprise'; Chester by grumpy's trains, on Flickr Edited November 17, 2012 by michael delamar 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PenrithBeacon Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 Warships were reasonably common at Crewe in the early 60s, but were never as common as Westerns. Regards Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted November 17, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 17, 2012 D1000 'Western Enterprise'; Chester by grumpy's trains, on Flickr Crane Street rather than Chester, on the up slow, having joined the North Wales main line at Saltney Junction, the previous signal box. The photo is taken from the city walls. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike T Posted November 18, 2012 Share Posted November 18, 2012 Westerns were common at Chester Mike, they worked in on the "Paddy" We need a photo of the Hymek at Speke ... It was Edge Hill not Speke. Also the Western at Ditton/Widnes and the Warship at Winsford :-) 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted February 22, 2013 Author Share Posted February 22, 2013 (edited) thats close enough for an excuse for one any numbers? the Hymek at Edge hill is very interesting Edited February 22, 2013 by Michael Delamar Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted February 23, 2013 Author Share Posted February 23, 2013 (edited) googling ive seen some of your old requests for info on the Hymek to Edge hill working, Cowley- North mersey car train? even better if it worked to the docks http://rmweb.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=35733 Edited February 23, 2013 by Michael Delamar Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
'CHARD Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 Love this thread - that somehow I'd missed before.... I'd never regarded Warships as pretty before. Well, if I did I never acknowledged same. Keep these images coming! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted February 23, 2013 Author Share Posted February 23, 2013 It was Edge Hill not Speke. just remembered I asked Edgehill signalman on flickr, he worked at Exhibition jnc around that time and has a good memory but the Hymek must have been when he wasnt on duty.. "I know nothing about the Hymek at Ex Jcn, I wish I had. As the normal shift was 8 hours I stood a good chance of missing something" Mike Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pobrien Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 The long journey from Crewe to Bristol and beyond was clearly too much for some Warships http://www.flickr.com/photos/bristolsteam/5273626149/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/bristolsteam/6181158630/ 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium gc4946 Posted February 23, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 23, 2013 Just curious, did any of them reach Birkenhead (or any other hydraulic types) ?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted February 23, 2013 Author Share Posted February 23, 2013 Just curious, did any of them reach Birkenhead (or any other hydraulic types) ?? I always hoped they did, that was one of the reasons for starting this thread, but found no evidence. steam took over from Chester to Birkenhead. always hoped id find some evidence of a hydraulic working to Liverpool, maybe a grand national working to Aintree, but the only western trains I know of was the blue pullman and possibly a Hymek on a freight discussed earlier. the western coaches would work in to placed like Lime street, but the locos didnt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted February 24, 2013 Author Share Posted February 24, 2013 so Crewe and Chester. but how far north would they have got for freight, either regular or rare workings. and ive edited the thread title to include all Hydraulics. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium kevinlms Posted February 25, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 25, 2013 Warships were regular performers on freights to the Stoke area in the mid 1960's. I was power Controller at the time, pests they were as non of my Stoke traincrew "knew" them. Got a Western to York though when the Broad Gauge tried a fast one - they thought they would get it back 0Z00, but forgot some Crewe men knew them Mike. Love the term 'Broad Gauge' - old terms last forever. Sounds to me like some of the train crews might have known them, but refused to admit it! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugd1022 Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 (edited) so Crewe and Chester. but how far north would they have got for freight, either regular or rare workings. and ive edited the thread title to include all Hydraulics. From 'Railway Magazine' August 1968 : ''WR Warship D834 'Pathfinder' (81A) was noted on a freight at Crewe on May 23rd, and D844 'Spartan' at Wolverton (Bucks) on June 16th''. From 'Railway Magazine' February 1971 : ''At Wellington (Salop) on November 20th 1970 an oil train provided the rare sight of two Cl.35s, Nos. 7058 and 7061''. (Apparently this was due to a derailment at Stourbridge so I'm told). From 'Railway Magazine' March 1971 : ''D815 'Druid' and D824 'Highflyer' were noted double heading a salt train to Hartford Sidings near Crewe on January 5th. Also, D857 ''Undaunted'' arrived at Crewe on a parcels on 20th December (1970)''. From 'Railway Magazine' August 1971 : "Coventry had the very rare sight of Cl.43 No. 839 (NA), which headed a freight on March 30th''. Not all in the North West I know, but it does show how they still managed to get about, even towards the end of their (criminally short) lives. Edited February 25, 2013 by Rugd1022 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted February 26, 2013 Author Share Posted February 26, 2013 could the Western's be seen on freight when they where relativley new? or was it more towards the end of the 60s? basically workings of them on freight during the steam era. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted February 26, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 26, 2013 Not in the North West, but, I have a photo of a Hymek on a troop train at Killamarsh, near Beighton Junction, LMR. Mike. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugd1022 Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 could the Western's be seen on freight when they where relativley new? or was it more towards the end of the 60s? basically workings of them on freight during the steam era. Definitely Mike, and in quite a few cases the Crewe built machines worked freights down to the WR before official acceptance into traffic. There's a cracking shot of D1047 Western Lord fresh out of the box working a 4V78 at Oxley in February '63 on just such a run in Derek Cross's 'Fifty Years Of The Westerns'. They had booked freight turns on all of the routes they were allocated to in their early days as part of their cyclic diagrams, often working freight or parcels turns during the night, the same applied to the Warships and Hymeks. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted February 27, 2013 Author Share Posted February 27, 2013 thanks Nidge, Ive seen pics but often wondered if it was exception rather than rule in that era. shots of them venturing anywhere onto the LMR with freights especially in the steam era would be very interesting to me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andymozza Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 Hi, not quite in the north west but definitly heading for the LMR http://www.miac.org.uk/images/d1017.jpg, could also be in the 16t minerals thread! Andy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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