Titan Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 We all know that post war cleaning was not up to pre war standards With the exception of Grantham... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
darren01 Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 Seagulls again? This is claimed to be based on a photograph of the real thing (I would be interested to see it, seeing the likelihood of a locomotive being in this condition - above all still in 1940s GWR livery!) http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Bachmann-Class-56XX-Tank-6600-GWR-/151459441063?pt=UK_Trains_Railway_Models&hash=item2343afa9a7 What is it with this white staining all over the loco? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Re6/6 Posted November 5, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 5, 2014 What is it with this white staining all over the loco? It must have been sent to Kernow china clay country. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted November 5, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 5, 2014 Hornby Dublo: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Hornby-DUBLO-No-2022-CALEDONIAN-PASSENGER-SET-VN-MIB-/301217468842?pt=UK_Trains_Railway_Models&hash=item4621f5d1aa Really? Keith Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Grifone Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 What is it with this white staining all over the loco? It must have been sent to Kernow china clay country. I did consider this, but, since china clay gets everywhere including the wheels and frames, I had to rule this out which only leaves seagulls or other large flying creatures - pterodactyls? rocs? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Grifone Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 Hornby Dublo: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Hornby-DUBLO-No-2022-CALEDONIAN-PASSENGER-SET-VN-MIB-/301217468842?pt=UK_Trains_Railway_Models&hash=item4621f5d1aa Really? Keith Cartmel again! Since when was 46245 'City of Liverpool'? or is this error the reason for the ridiculous price? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Metr0Land Posted November 5, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 5, 2014 Looks like this brake van was in the consist of that 56xx's final train? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Bachmann-GUARDS-VAN-WR-HEAVILY-WEATHERED-/151464497585?pt=UK_Trains_Railway_Models&hash=item2343fcd1b1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spitfire2865 Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 Seagulls again? This is claimed to be based on a photograph of the real thing (I would be interested to see it, seeing the likelihood of a locomotive being in this condition - above all still in 1940s GWR livery!) http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Bachmann-Class-56XX-Tank-6600-GWR-/151459441063?pt=UK_Trains_Railway_Models&hash=item2343afa9a7 Arguably, that rust actually looks really good. Inappropriate on a loco, but hand him a 16T mineral and thatd look good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spitfire2865 Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 Looks like this brake van was in the consist of that 56xx's final train? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Bachmann-GUARDS-VAN-WR-HEAVILY-WEATHERED-/151464497585?pt=UK_Trains_Railway_Models&hash=item2343fcd1b1 Damn wood rust again! Is nothing safe? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andytrains Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 Hornby Dublo: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Hornby-DUBLO-No-2022-CALEDONIAN-PASSENGER-SET-VN-MIB-/301217468842?pt=UK_Trains_Railway_Models&hash=item4621f5d1aa Really? Keith And only £24-95p P&P!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Coryton Posted November 5, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 5, 2014 If anyone wants a RTC red/blue Bachmann CCT from Invicta, they still have a few left at £29.99, post free Or you can purchase one via ebay for more.... Cheers, Mick Fair do's, they were shown as sold out on the Invicta web site a few weeks ago... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
darren01 Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 And only £24-95p P&P!! At that price i want him to bring it to my door. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bodmin Bob Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 As weathering would appear to be so popular, I'm off to dip my all my surplus junk stock in a bucket of old engine oil and then I'll wipe off the excess with a tea towel. I'll make a fortune. Not. Maybe I'm old-fashioned but I like my stock "ex-works"... I think 'proper'weathering is truly a fine art - when it is done carefully and properly (and with careful research) it can produce absolutely outstanding results. The trouble is that a lot of what we see on Ebay are purely ham fisted attempts that are just a complete mess and either completely ruin a half decent model or are attempts to make a few quid out of coating a piece of life expired old junk with diluted white or brown paint and passing it off as a scrap yard scene. The trouble is that people keep buying this junk therefore encouraging these sellers to attempt to mess up even more stock. There clearly is a market for it but I do wonder if it is true 'modelling' or just misguided vandalism or profiteering! Having said that - if people didn't buy this rubbish they would probably stop doing it! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Re6/6 Posted November 6, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 6, 2014 (edited) I think 'proper'weathering is truly a fine art - when it is done carefully and properly (and with careful research) it can produce absolutely outstanding results. If only these people would understand that. The trouble is that a lot of what we see on Ebay are purely ham fisted attempts that are just a complete mess and either completely ruin a half decent model or are attempts to make a few quid out of coating a piece of life expired old junk with diluted white or brown paint and passing it off as a scrap yard scene. Spot on! Now this is proper weathering: http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/gallery/album/2429-weathering-with-ink-and-weathering-powders/ Edited November 6, 2014 by Re6/6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Grifone Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 (edited) Part of the art of weathering is to strike the fine line between too 'new' and 'overdone'. Most stock in the late steam era was quite dirty*, but I never saw anything in the state portrayed by the horrors selected for our hallowed pages. * There was of course, the odd ex-works item, but they didn't usually stay like that very long. It wasn't until the use of smokeless fuel and central heating became normal during the fifties and sixties, that it became worthwhile to clean buildings due to the high level smoke in the air. 'Smog' is now a thing of the past (in this country at least), but it wasn't then - a layer of dark grey/black was the norm. EDIT for excess of commas. Edited November 8, 2014 by Il Grifone Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 You could probably achieve a better result with the help of Fybogel. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Coryton Posted November 6, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 6, 2014 Not ebay, but... http://www.ehattons.com/90898/Scratchbuilt_KB064_SAS_Ian_Kirk_kit_LNER_Gresley_buffet_car_Pre_owned_sold_as_seen/StockDetail.aspx Can someone explain how an unbuilt kit can count as scratchbuilt? At least they're not trying to sell this for more than they want for a new one... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
'CHARD Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 Not eBay either, but check out Lot 58: http://www.arthurjohnson.co.uk/catalogues/catalogues/sale/0623MR/cat/S2?pg=3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted November 6, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 6, 2014 Not ebay, but... http://www.ehattons.com/90898/Scratchbuilt_KB064_SAS_Ian_Kirk_kit_LNER_Gresley_buffet_car_Pre_owned_sold_as_seen/StockDetail.aspx Can someone explain how an unbuilt kit can count as scratchbuilt? They've been looking at too many 'Sturd descriptions. Cheers, Mick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Metr0Land Posted November 6, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 6, 2014 Not eBay either, but check out Lot 58: http://www.arthurjohnson.co.uk/catalogues/catalogues/sale/0623MR/cat/S2?pg=3 Looks like the whole collection is from the estate of Mary Shelley! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernard Lamb Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 Not eBay either, but check out Lot 58: http://www.arthurjohnson.co.uk/catalogues/catalogues/sale/0623MR/cat/S2?pg=3 Trying to frighten people with things like that is way out of order. You need a good seeing to with No 187. Bernard 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 Looks like the whole collection is from the estate of Mary Shelley! The general heading is "scratchbuilt". It shows. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Metr0Land Posted November 6, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 6, 2014 The general heading is "scratchbuilt". It shows. Assuming this is mostly the work of one man, he was quite prolific. I was wondering if he was the guy who created all the masters for MTK's offerings? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 .... wondering if he was the guy who created all the masters for MTK's offerings? Nah. Colin Massingham was quite capable on his own. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium kevinlms Posted November 6, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 6, 2014 Not eBay either, but check out Lot 58: http://www.arthurjohnson.co.uk/catalogues/catalogues/sale/0623MR/cat/S2?pg=3 Perhaps the auction house name is really Arthur Daly? PS there was such a place named that in a Melbourne suburb. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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