andytrains Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 Why? https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vintage-Tri-ang-Power-Unit-No-1-For-Model-Railways/143662262795?hash=item2172f02a0b:g:I-AAAOSwkBteeeZO 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWolf Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 Every Navy needs impressive names for their ships to inspire their crews. Although the quickest glance at the last five hundred years or so of world naval history should have given us names such as: HMS Obsolete, Vulnerable, Outgunned, Unstable, or Dangerously Flawed... 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruffnut Thorston Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 2 minutes ago, andytrains said: Why? https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vintage-Tri-ang-Power-Unit-No-1-For-Model-Railways/143662262795?hash=item2172f02a0b:g:I-AAAOSwkBteeeZO If you mean why no controlled output, it is designed to work with a separate controller, R.42, later RT. 42, and them P.42... https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/TRIANG-DC-CONTROLLER-R42-BOXED/193287027536?hash=item2d00cdfb50:g:zooAAOSwgm5eEcgj 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWolf Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 10 minutes ago, andytrains said: Why? https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vintage-Tri-ang-Power-Unit-No-1-For-Model-Railways/143662262795?hash=item2172f02a0b:g:I-AAAOSwkBteeeZO Reminds me of a friend who describes anything electrical that has packed up as: "Only old train sets can smell like that and still work." 5 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy WD Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 50 minutes ago, MrWolf said: Every Navy needs impressive names for their ships to inspire their crews. Although the quickest glance at the last five hundred years or so of world naval history should have given us names such as: HMS Obsolete, Vulnerable, Outgunned, Unstable, or Dangerously Flawed... You would have to say that the Royal Navy has had it's share of names which aren't exactly inspiring anyway...Fly, Robin, Swan... 3 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveyDee68 Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 Anyone stumbled across the seller not_another_train on eBay? Buying a loco from him involves (a) buying the body (b) buying the chassis (c) buying the appropriate tender and (d) buying the bl***y empty box to put them all in! The combined cost (plus postage) adds up to a lot more than you can buy the complete loco for off other sellers! That, to me, is also ‘eBay Madness’! Steve S 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWolf Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 That sort of tactic seems all too common throughout eBay. A good example is: Got a busted up / incomplete motorcycle magneto / gearbox / carburettor? Strip it to component form and "part it out" for more than double the price of a complete working unit. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
009 micro modeller Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 (edited) 8 hours ago, MrWolf said: Every Navy needs impressive names for their ships to inspire their crews. Although the quickest glance at the last five hundred years or so of world naval history should have given us names such as: HMS Obsolete, Vulnerable, Outgunned, Unstable, or Dangerously Flawed... Following the Tomix post earlier I am left thinking that ‘HMS Avaricious’ also sounds like a good name - I’m sure a Warship loco could be named after it too. Possibly quite an appropriate adjective at certain points in history as well... One unfortunate one in more recent years was the submarine that ran aground, named HMS Astute. Edited July 28, 2020 by 009 micro modeller 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
009 micro modeller Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 3 hours ago, SteveyDee68 said: Anyone stumbled across the seller not_another_train on eBay? Buying a loco from him involves (a) buying the body (b) buying the chassis (c) buying the appropriate tender and (d) buying the bl***y empty box to put them all in! The combined cost (plus postage) adds up to a lot more than you can buy the complete loco for off other sellers! That, to me, is also ‘eBay Madness’! Steve S I wonder what would happen if you asked him to put the loco back together prior to postage? I’m not sure the eBay name has the connotations you would want - makes it sound like ‘oh, not another train, how tedious.’ Or maybe you have to check each of the separated body/chassis lots to make sure it’s not from another train? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium kevinlms Posted July 28, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 28, 2020 15 hours ago, Puggers said: If you look at some of the chimney experiments that were carried out on this poor loco, you will find that it was aptly named! But surely not as bad as the experiments on the hapless 'Royal Scots'? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveyDee68 Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 9 hours ago, MrWolf said: Every Navy needs impressive names for their ships to inspire their crews. Although the quickest glance at the last five hundred years or so of world naval history should have given us names such as: HMS Obsolete, Vulnerable, Outgunned, Unstable, or Dangerously Flawed... Check out the "Culture" novels by the late (great) Iain C Banks - the AI 'minds' of his (space) ships give themselves obtuse, oblique or downright crazy names to themselves as a kind of AI in-joke! The one that immediately springs to mind is Culture Fast Packet Ship Suicidal Intent ... how's that for an impressive name to inspire the crew?! Sorry - very OT indeed! 47 minutes ago, 009 micro modeller said: I wonder what would happen if you asked him to put the loco back together prior to postage? I’m not sure the eBay name has the connotations you would want - makes it sound like ‘oh, not another train, how tedious.’ Or maybe you have to check each of the separated body/chassis lots to make sure it’s not from another train? At 5:00am this morning the thought did cross my mind to ask him to reassemble the (obviously all the same) bits of a loco before posting and asking him to combine postage and let me know how much that would be ... but I didn't have pencil and paper to hand to note down the combination so I could repeat (paste) the (almost) same message request four times!! Maybe later if I am feeling bored/mischevious! Steve S 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
009 micro modeller Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 1 hour ago, SteveyDee68 said: At 5:00am this morning the thought did cross my mind to ask him to reassemble the (obviously all the same) bits of a loco before posting and asking him to combine postage and let me know how much that would be ... but I didn't have pencil and paper to hand to note down the combination so I could repeat (paste) the (almost) same message request four times!! Yes - I kind of think he won’t do it as it undermines his scheme of splitting them apart and selling for more. Of course there’s nothing illegal about ‘breaking for parts’ and for older (knackered) locos separating them into spare parts probably makes them worth more (and more useful) but from what you say it sounds as though he’s just taking locos apart but then selling all the bits of the loco to the same person in a more convoluted way. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andytrains Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 15 hours ago, Sarahagain said: If you mean why no controlled output, it is designed to work with a separate controller, R.42, later RT. 42, and them P.42... https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/TRIANG-DC-CONTROLLER-R42-BOXED/193287027536?hash=item2d00cdfb50:g:zooAAOSwgm5eEcgj Why is he selling an outdated pile of electrical pooh! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Endacott Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 28 minutes ago, andytrains said: Why is he selling an outdated pile of electrical pooh! And has it been PAT tested? Geoff Endacott Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyman7 Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 (edited) 47 minutes ago, andytrains said: Why is he selling an outdated pile of electrical pooh! 18 minutes ago, Geoff Endacott said: And has it been PAT tested? Geoff Endacott A Triang RP42 is perfectly safe to run off a modern 12v DC utput - as such it is fine to run a vintage layout using period equipment which some of us do actually like to do. I would be more careful with any mains powered unit of that age. Edited July 28, 2020 by andyman7 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob D2 Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 19 minutes ago, Geoff Endacott said: And has it been PAT tested? Geoff Endacott Pats not available, Dave has been asked if he has time . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyman7 Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 16 hours ago, andytrains said: Why? https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vintage-Tri-ang-Power-Unit-No-1-For-Model-Railways/143662262795?hash=item2172f02a0b:g:I-AAAOSwkBteeeZO I agree that this is overpriced but these transformers can still have their uses provided you know how to use them safely. My father was an electrical engineer, and we always had bits if kit round the house. Nowadays he would be forbidden from doing most of the things he took for granted because everything is sealed for life and can't be touched. But - IF YOU KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING - having a transformer you can actually open up and check, replacing cables as needed, is very useful. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Metr0Land Posted July 28, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 28, 2020 https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Triang-Hornby-R52-jinty-body-weathered-and-worn/363060492663?hash=item5488177977:g:fFUAAOSwWyZfIEgZ weathered and worn look ideal for a siding landfill 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium J. S. Bach Posted July 28, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 28, 2020 19 hours ago, Andy WD said: You would have to say that the Royal Navy has had it's share of names which aren't exactly inspiring anyway...Fly, Robin, Swan... Hmmm, the FLOWER class corvettes, maybe? 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWolf Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 4 hours ago, andyman7 said: I agree that this is overpriced but these transformers can still have their uses provided you know how to use them safely. My father was an electrical engineer, and we always had bits if kit round the house. Nowadays he would be forbidden from doing most of the things he took for granted because everything is sealed for life and can't be touched. But - IF YOU KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING - having a transformer you can actually open up and check, replacing cables as needed, is very useful. That is pretty much my thoughts on the matter, whilst I thought it was overpriced and probably untested, there is no reason why it couldn't work. The wiring inside that would need checking, but if post 1955 is probably pvc covered rather than rubber and probably quite serviceable. The electrical components on my motorcycles are between 50 and 90 years old. They function perfectly well and are safe. The same goes for the old radios etc that I have. People are now used to having a TV that lasts about five years (which is a good 3 years after it goes out of fashion!) So they are paranoid about older electrical items exploding like Chernobyl. It's not helped by the built in obsolescence of most electronic items. I always find it funny when motor manufacturers etc spout utter BS about greener technology when you can't fix anything, just throw it away. Recycling "tech" generally translates as setting fire to it on the banks of the Ganges or somewhere to recover the metal anyway. 4 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruffnut Thorston Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 2 hours ago, J. S. Bach said: Hmmm, the FLOWER class corvettes, maybe? HMS Bluebell... 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWolf Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 3 hours ago, Metr0Land said: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Triang-Hornby-R52-jinty-body-weathered-and-worn/363060492663?hash=item5488177977:g:fFUAAOSwWyZfIEgZ weathered and worn look ideal for a siding landfill The chassis from it appears in the "seller's other items" list. I couldn't be a###d to look and see if he was offering an ultra RARE chimney fixing screw as a separate item 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWolf Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 £11.09 isn't a lot of money, until you compare it with an original Triang Jinty and a Hornby China Jinty bought for £18 the pair from a junk shop recently. 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruffnut Thorston Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 (edited) A different way of saying “L@@K”..... I wouldn’t mind, but when you do “see the description” it isn’t so much of a description! https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Hornby-LOCO-DRIVE-BR-REPAINTED-2-6-0-LOCO-78024-SEE-THE-DESCRIPTION/383645948145?hash=item59531498f1:g:1CMAAOSwinxfBiyM Edited July 29, 2020 by Sarahagain Typo 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruffnut Thorston Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 (edited) 10 hours ago, Sarahagain said: HMS Bluebell... It may be funny...but HMS Bluebell did exist... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Bluebell_(K80) More on the Flower Class... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flower-class_corvette Edited July 29, 2020 by Sarahagain Link changed 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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