RMweb Premium newbryford Posted November 24, 2014 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted November 24, 2014 It's a cut down MEA with the sides removed and presumably is used as some sort of equipment carrier in internal use. Thanks to a chat (thanks Jack) at the Warley show, I've found out what this wagon is used for. It carries large weights that are used to weigh down bogies when they are being reassembled after overhaul. The weights are placed on the bogie to simulate a coach (or wagon) so that the springs and dampers can be fitted and adjusted accordingly. The wagon is wheeled into the workshop, the weights lifted off by crane and placed on the bogie - there are "pins" that locate in the pivot centre - the bogie is fettled, then the weights are lifted back onto the MEA and stored outside. Simples. Cheers, Mick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
class"66" Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 Looking forward to more of your DRS 37 and the new decal Mick.. cheers neil.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted December 24, 2014 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted December 24, 2014 Looking forward to more of your DRS 37 and the new decal Mick.. cheers neil.. A replacement decal arrived a couple of days ago, along with another set for me to re-livery my 37423. Hopefully, I'll progress at least one of them through the festive period. I'm also hoping that I get on with a few other part-started projects. Cheers, Mick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted January 2, 2015 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted January 2, 2015 (edited) Finally got to spending some time on stock for DL. 92114 & 977990. They are both former full brakes that were converted to tool vans - I think for use with the Southern Region power upgrade. They've both been at Derby for a couple of years and 977990 was removed for scrap in 2014. The donor model is a Replica Railways BG (on sale....!) rather than my usual route of a Bachmann BG. Because there are a few large holes to cut out, the Replica model is a better option, rather than the Bachy BG with its' seperate sides. First of all, a dunking in Halfords DOT4 brake fluid to remove the paint. The ends were tackled first with most of the moulded detail removed - the white residue is from the paint removal and is fully cleaned off before long. I also took the opportunity to shave the roof ribs down a little. The corridor ends are blanked off on both coaches. I've started to "square off" the corners, to make it easy to fit a simple rectangular blank. And here's the fitted blank. More to follow. Cheers, Mick Edit: photo links to prototype added Edited January 2, 2015 by newbryford 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted January 2, 2015 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted January 2, 2015 (edited) Continuing on. More cruel closeup pictures. The side windows ae blanked accordingly (I used the same square corner technique to make it easy to fit the blank). The "X" is to remind me to blank the window and the lines will eventually become shutter doors. The door grooves are filled with strips of styrene, rather than filler. This minimises the use of filler as over time, the filler shrinks a bit more (or cracks) and starts to show the original grooves. Although it does look untidy, there is method in the madness The blanks and door strips are rubbed down The a quick spray with Halfords primer (the upper coach has already had a "first fill" and sanding down). It still needs a second fine fill and sand. This is the result after simply sanding down the blanks, with minimal extra filling required. The small gaps have been scraped out with a blade to provide more "key" for the filler Then it's a thin skim of filler for the "first fix" And then a bit more sanding. This is then repeated until happy with the finish - usually two fixes does the trick I haven't yet cut out for the shutter doors, as I want to make sure the sides are as smooth as possible before lauching into it with a razor saw..... Cheers, Mick Edited January 2, 2015 by newbryford 15 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted January 3, 2015 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted January 3, 2015 The door joints are scored with a scalpel and eventually opened up, using a small flat file to clean the edges. Using my favourite Evergreen 4031, I've then fitted shutter doors, or in the case of 92114, an extra grille. Door strips have been added with 5thou styrene strip. Cheers, Mick 15 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray M Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 How long do you leave the bodies to soak in the brake fluid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted January 4, 2015 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted January 4, 2015 How long do you leave the bodies to soak in the brake fluid. Depends how old the fluid is and how many times I've used it. Also the paint. Some comes off easy, some doesn't..... Sometimes it may take a couple of overnight soaks with brushing off in between. Cheers, Mick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickL2008 Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Trying to find a good paint stripper myself, havnt had much luck with model strip, so may give your method a go Mick, lovely work as alwaysNL Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted January 5, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 5, 2015 Just dont leave em in the brake fluid too long..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted January 5, 2015 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted January 5, 2015 Trying to find a good paint stripper myself, havnt had much luck with model strip, so may give your method a go Mick, lovely work as always NL For the more stubborn stuff, Phoenix Superstrip is my preferred choice. Cheers, Mick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted January 12, 2015 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted January 12, 2015 92114 and 977990 emerge from multiple layers of masking tape. Quite pleased with the results so far. Just a tiny bit of tidying up to do and roofs to paint. Cheers, Mick 14 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaz Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Lovely work as always.....ispirational Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rorz101uk Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Mick you can always do 6260 in the livery? It's still in the yard! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted January 12, 2015 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted January 12, 2015 Mick you can always do 6260 in the livery? It's still in the yard! Hi Rory, I had seen a recent photo of it. It's on the to-do list, as it has slightly different arrangement of grilles to 6261-6264 before they were refurbished.. Cheers, Mick 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted January 12, 2015 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted January 12, 2015 Thanks to Si on the DEMu forum, it transpires that painting diagrams were done for a Class 31 and Mk3 in the same blue/white/red scheme....................... The 31 does look rather nice. Cheers, Mick 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted January 17, 2015 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted January 17, 2015 (edited) Thanks to virginhst539 for the PM and allowing me to post - I think this sort of Q&A could be useful here. Hi, been following your network rail forum and have seen your work on the DBSO cutting out the window and replacing it with a cab door. What advance could you give for someone having there first go at a cut and shut job. Got a nice new razor saw and two of Hornbys new mk1 BSKs ready for the chop to become EMU barriers. Look forward to your thoughts and as always it's appreciated.Cheers, jake And my reply: Hi Jake, Measure twice, cut once...... Go to an exhibition and buy a few "scrap" bodies from the boxes under the second hand stalls and practice on those. With a razor saw, cut just inside where you want to remove sections and then open out with knife and/or file. Don't be afraid to make mistakes and don't throw anything away. You'll never know when that damaged bodysehll will come in useful. Edited January 17, 2015 by newbryford 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
virginhst539 Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 It's good for a novice like myself to get some advice before chopping up some new coaches. Hopefully all goes well one they arrive. And on the test coach Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack374 Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 Great modelling as per usual sir Just found this on t'interweb... https://www.flickr.com/photos/86734924@N03/14343330983/in/photolist-nRtjA4-krUP6S Looks like a well wagon used for moving engines around Derby, so good for DL...and it's yellow, so you can't refuse really! Could prove an interesting scratchbuilt project? Thanks, Jack. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted January 18, 2015 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted January 18, 2015 Great modelling as per usual sir Just found this on t'interweb... https://www.flickr.com/photos/86734924@N03/14343330983/in/photolist-nRtjA4-krUP6S Looks like a well wagon used for moving engines around Derby, so good for DL...and it's yellow, so you can't refuse really! Could prove an interesting scratchbuilt project? Thanks, Jack. Nice find Jack. I wonder if a Dapol KQA could be adapted? The palbrick to the right of it is also of interest. I'm actually in the process of doing a couple of odd wagons to break up the yellow sea. Apart from the previously mentioned cut down MEA, I have a lowmac, SPA and cargowaggon on the go. I also have pics of a yellow conflat. Pics soon! Cheers, Mick 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted January 22, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 22, 2015 Typical i was in etches park today getting fuel and i took some iphone pics of the blue coaches for you but never thought to get a pic of that yellow well wagon that was parked next them, it had an english electric engine sat on it today! Not the best of pics as i didnt bother with the proper camera today but thay may be of use to you What exactly are they used for and why blue, are they ex railtrack? 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted January 22, 2015 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted January 22, 2015 Not the best of pics as i didnt bother with the proper camera today but thay may be of use to you What exactly are they used for and why blue, are they ex railtrack? Thanks for the pics. The coaches were (I think) part of the Southern Region Electrical Upgrade train. 977990 has already been consigned to scrap. THe two in your pictures are 6260 and 92114. 6260 is a generator van and is due to go into RVEL for a refurbish to the same spec as the existing NR generators 6261-6264. 92114 (and 977990) were tool vans for the train - I have no idea of the intended use at RVEL. The livery is the first incarnation of Network Rail, but it wouldn't surprise me if it should originally have carried Railtrack branding. I have a copy of a paint diagram for a similarly liveried Class 31, carrying Network Rail logos, but the drawing is a Railtrack document. Cheers, Mick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted January 22, 2015 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted January 22, 2015 (edited) Birthday present to self............. Oh dear, I seem to have ordered yet another kit to build......... KAA kit Cheers, Mick EDIT - order confirmed and on the way - it's been awhile since I did any low melt soldering. Genesis kits are quite good to solder as they seem to be made from more of a pewter than whitemetal alloy and withstand higher soldering iron temperatures. Edited January 22, 2015 by newbryford 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted January 28, 2015 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted January 28, 2015 Birthday present to self............. Oh dear, I seem to have ordered yet another kit to build......... KAA kit Cheers, Mick EDIT - order confirmed and on the way - it's been awhile since I did any low melt soldering. Genesis kits are quite good to solder as they seem to be made from more of a pewter than whitemetal alloy and withstand higher soldering iron temperatures. I now have the KAA kit - no doubt it'll jump the workbench queue. Expect a few burnt fingers, swearing and the smell of burning flesh................. Cheers, Mick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted February 18, 2015 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted February 18, 2015 (edited) It's been awhile. I have been doing som modellng, but not managed to take and edit photos. Here's the pair of NR vans 977990/92114 almost complete. Weathering and glazing should see them done. My 67 fleet is slowly being equipped with Kadees. I'd done one awhile ago, but needed a good test under exhibition use. The delector plate has a hole cut in. After removing the NEM pocket mount - by unscrewing the cab floor and lifting the unit out - I've glued a Kadee #26 (same as a #5, but with a long shank) Then the deflector plate is glued into place, I've also completed a pair of DBS red 60024 - one for a birthday present for my brother and one for myself. (Peviously completed 60062 is at the back, as I was using it to line up the small decals. Cheers, Mick Edited February 18, 2015 by newbryford 13 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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